Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

I had a random thought on whether one's antecedence could have a bearing on how one might vote in U.S. national politics, like for the presidential nominees. If one were of Russian or Ukrainian descent, how it might affect one's choice on the "all politics is local" basis, given how hot the political scene is there. The last survey on "Russian" voters seems to have been in 2012 showing it was recorded as 1% of the voting population. I don't know if there was a similar one done of Ukraine-descendant to register its percentage in the overall population.

That'd be the business of the number crunchers etc. It's entirely possible that one's ethnic descent wouldn't have a hold on how one votes in any case BUT Trump has shown a remarkable display of not giving a fig about how the vote goes, except for along national party line results.

China tariff parked for 90 days.

Genuine question at what point does all this nonsense start to be called market manipulation, Trump Elon and who knows how many more on both sides own massive holdings in stocks Gold Crypto and even managing sovereign debt.

By causing turmoil like this it has to be making them some quick cash.

It's not a wish, it's reality. The only way people, or most people, realise how stupid a concept American Nazism is is if they experience the consequences. It's the lesson of Brexit. The Conservatives shoved their grotty little project through and now people just don't talk about it.

Until the American public see, and more importantly feel their freedoms disappearing, they will continue to mindlessly support a man who may well be a child molester. There's no headline that can cause his support to collapse at this point. Americans are now either anti-Nazi or pro-Nazi or bystanders. There's no fourth category.

It takes a special kind of sh*tehole for a probable paedophile to be exalted as a god. Thank Christ for the Atlantic Ocean.

It would seem that Trump, and his back seat operatives, has side-lined the Congress GOP members, through MAGA-izing the state and local GOP membership, putting those Congress members in fear of him. That is something they can rectify themselves if they get some backbone.

Ref SCOTUS and Trump, it seems to me that what you describe as it giving him a sweeping immunity from prosecution is not that. It is that they have not properly defined and laid out the borders of what are the presidents "official duties" and what are not his "official duties".

Some can choose to argue that that is outside the bounds of SCOTUS duties, an improper limitation of presidential freedom to act. I disagree with that line. SCOTUS could and can remind, by way of inclusion in the courts publicized decision, that it is up to Congress to decide what is outside the remits of any presidents powers. That includes the power to initiate and use tariffs against other countries outside the emergency event limitations the president can utilize tariffs as a coercize trade weapon.

Violent crime in 2024 in DC was at a 30 year low, so if the National Gaurd is not being sent there due to the crime rate then why are they being sent there by Trump. To clear the homeless off the streets ?

You are making these points as if Trump's stance is based on good faith, ie that he wants to lower crime rates.

However, if you view what is happening in the context of;

A) him pardoning actual criminals of the worst attack on the Capitol building and therefore he couldn't care less about crime rates in DC and

B) his prior use of the National Guard in LA without any request from the Governor

You can only conclude that he has an ulterior motive.

I can't find the source of that quote.(it is easily found in a google search but I can't see who said it first.I see it is being

sold on tea shirts.It had better be genuine or it's an own goal)

I agree with the sentiment and ,likely the historical veracity but I hope it doesn't give the appeasers ,followers and fellow travelers an easy win if it is "fake quotes"

Is there a protest camp in DC at the moment?

The question your post inspires is where were the national guard when there was an insurrection?

Oh yeah, he had assembled a mob outside the white house to "stop the steal!"

But within your post is the source of the issue. Yes, things like this have been done before, and in most cases were required. But there is no reason for this apart from Trump wanting to control. There is no immediate issue to deal with (like a party in Vegas), no special event. Anyone who thinks that the NG solves homelessness has no idea what the NG is actually for.

Trump is calling in the National Guard for political reasons. Nothing else. And that makes it entirely different from other times. And if this was a once-off, I could almost accept your laissez-faire attitude. But this is simply the next step on the ever-growing litany of examples of Trump using his power to intimidate. From the simple name-calling, to threatening and then sacking people. So, cutting off funds, threatening to arrest, deport, etc. For his political friends, he intimidates using the threat of being primaried or cutting funds. The examples are long.

You want to simultaneously believe that Trump is concerned about crime, and yet now concerns that he has multiple convictions and is happy to pardon all those who attempted to overthrow the government.