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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,042 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    If anything, the fact that nearly every Independent councillor is part of that Facebook group weakens the argument that Keoghan has much influence over them.

    What's almost certainly happened is that after the election she dug up the Facebook pages for every independent councillor and sent them an invite to the "independent councillors support group" and since the name seemed legit they accepted it.

    There's no evidence of any collaboration or alignment or her somehow directing every single independent councillor in Ireland.

    That's before we even get into the numbers. Even in the ridiculously unlikely scenario that she whipped all 180 councillors into nominating one candidate, they're spread across 31 different local authorities with none having a majority of independents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,146 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    I wasn't answering in regard to the nomination process, but Sheridan says he has 4 proposers and seconders and FF councillors dont have a candidate to protect.

    Sharon Keogan managed to get a TD who claims to stand for everything shes against to nominate her to the Seanad…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,874 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Yes they do.

    Its either the candidate they haven't decided on yet, or Mairéad McGuinness.

    Either way, FF Councillors won't be facilitating anyone. And thats the ball game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,451 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Even if he has proposers and seconders, he needs to get A MAJORITY of Councillors on four Councils to support him. Not a snowballs….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,874 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Thats probably why they're calling it news.

    People like Sean Gallagher sit on many boards, acting as advisors and mentors, especially to rapidly growing startups.

    The Indo are hinting at some sudden change in mood, lets see if anything emerges.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,084 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It is but don't tell me that the election and the president is non-political and the best person for the country is elected.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,645 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭JVince


    be very careful what you say about potential candidates entering the presidential race.

    One of them might threaten legal action unless you can entirely back up what you say.

    Meanwhile Paddy Power are giving Linda Martin (66/1) a better chance of success than Mr Sheridan (80/1) - Odds checked and correct as of 11.41am Tues 12th Aug 2025.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,436 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    I see on a Reddit thread that a poster there claims they were DM'd by someone claiming to be part of Sheridan's team asking for their comments related to Gallagher and Keogan to be removed with legal action mentioned, poster taking it with a pinch of salt in fairness.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭JVince


    yep - that's where i saw it.

    I'd say there's something to it judging by the people that seem to in the backroom.

    Very Trumpian manner to it so far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,714 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    My own thoughts. Not looking good candidate wise. McGunness is the arch Brussels bureaucrat type, an underwhelming, paint by numbers candidate. Not going to inspire in debates or otherwise.

    Connolly would be a worse version of the present incumbent; a pontificating, hectoring presence showering moral superiority upon the masses. I'm assuming most have had their fill of that, I know I have.

    Sheridan I know little about. He's young and clearly fairly successful so should count for something but I don't know what the pitch is or how he'd do in a campaign.

    Flatley is probably the more interesting possibility. I don't know how he'd fare in a campaign but he seems to carry himself well. A dark horse I would suggest.

    Casey - been there, done that. He'll get an anti-immigrant/disenfrachised vote probably bigger than last time given how things have evolved since. He won't win but I think he'd get more votes than Connolly.

    Fianna Fáil are yet to pick a candidate.

    Other names are highly unlikely to be on the ballot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    If FG and Simon Harris don't get out in front of the growing calls for Harris to answer for his apparently appalling treatment of Harvey Sherratt and his family, it has the potential to wreck a presidential campaign.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,874 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    They can bog off. General discussion of candidate interest and known associations, including their politics and record, are fair game.

    If a comment were to accuse someone of wrongdoing, then that is potentially libellous, but anyone is free to talk about anybody they like.

    The Indo's story is just a 'what went on there?' piece, and thats perfectly fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    And what has Harvey Sherratt to do with the question of who is the best candidate for President? In fact, what has Simon Harris actions on anything to do with the question of whether MMcG is the best candidate for President?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I was addressing a potential issue for FG and their candidate in the 'Presidential Election 2025' thread, which is not solely about the 'best candidate'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    It is really a subject for another thread as it has no bearing whatsoever on whether MMcG's suitability for President.

    Yes, low-level politicians and journalists will try and make the Presidential election a referendum on some issue or other -Gaza, HSE, housing crisis or other topic of the day - but we should at least try and avoid that here and focus on the attributes, statements, policies and previous activities of the candidates, rather than sinking to that level.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    You should avoid what ever you want to.

    The entire history of this election shows that issues can arise that affect a candidates chances.
    My point was, this issue, if it is not gotten ahead of, has the potential to affect the FG campaign.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    If it ever does, maybe we should discuss it then, rather than indulging in kite-flying to deflect the thread onto non-Presidential issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Thread is chock full of speculation about potential issues for candidates. Some posters where even speculating on candidates not even declared. Imagine that! 😁

    If you want to avoid something maybe scroll past it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,645 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Other names are highly unlikely to be on the ballot.

    Same goes for the last three named unless Martin decides to adopt sheridan or Flatley as a 'plausibly deniable' FF candidate

    Flatley is probably the more interesting possibility…he seems to carry himself well.

    not sure about that

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,874 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,874 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Zero chance of that.

    60% chance FF doesn't nominate anyone. 25% chance they nominate a party name. 15% chance they nominate a significant contributor to public life from outside politics, e.g. Caoilfhoinn Gallagher, Dr. Mike Ryan, Deirdre Heenan.

    Absolute deep freeze 0% chance that they nominate some randomer, like Flatley or Sheridan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,645 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I'd envisage them running as a non-FF FF candidate in the manner of Sean Gallagher if FF decided not to run anyone officially themselves. Martin would not officially endorse them but free his councillors to nominate someone outside the party "in the interest of offering the voters a wider democratic choice".

    Wouldn't see it as a likely scenario but Sheridan is talking like he has a serious prospect of a coucil nomination and the only way I can see that as a reality is if he has some form of 'understanding' with FF…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I don't know. @FrancieBrady introduced it as some red herring to have a go at Simon Harris unrelated to Mairead McGuinness.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,330 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Seems like Sheridan's team are actively removing or pushing people to stop posting about his links to Senator Sharon Keogan, Sean Gallagher and other interesting pieces of his history he doesnt want public, theres reports of comments like those being deleted/removed on twitter and several posters on reddit reporting being contacted by accounts to stop making these claims or they will face legal action..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Something not widely public or known about Simon Harris has zero relevance to Mairead McGuinness. That is why they have picked her as a candidate. She is credible and experienced, but because she has been in Europe, she has no linkage to the current policies of the FF/FG government or even the policies of the previous government.

    She can even come out with the "I understand why the government is doing that, but it isn't the way I would approach it" defence and not upset anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Here’s the problem for her potentially.

    FG don’t get ahead of this story, there are calls for Harris to resign (at least on other party have called for this already) and Mairead is fending off questions asking ‘do you think your leader should resign?’

    Only the politically naive would claim that is not a potentially damaging scenario.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    The story has no relevance to Mairead McGuinness.

    She can simply answer that she is unaware of the decisions taken by doctors in the HSE, she has no knowledge or responsibility for any government decisions or policies, and that responding to the calls is a matter for the government and not a presidential candidate, as the President should be above interfering in domestic political issues.

    If Catherine Connolly wants to go there and say as President that she would call for a Minister's resignation, off she goes, she will be demonstrating again (not for the first time and almost certainly not the last) her complete unsuitability for the role.

    You are correct that it is a politically damaging scenario, but not for McGuinness. Only the most naive of Presidential candidates or their supporters would go around calling for a Minister's resignation.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,633 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    She would be laughed at if she tries to claim ignorance of the case.

    She is the FG candidate, question will be, are you backing/supporting the leader of your party or should he resign.

    It’s the kind of no win question a politician fears most and she will be asked it if FG don’t get ahead of the story.

    The boys parents are not letting it go. Story has a way to go.



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