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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,721 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    In practice, it's not affecting us. The regular session is over, the Texas legislature meets once every two years, our politicians are generally part-timers with their own businesses to run or full-time jobs to attend (which is another reason why staying outside of the state is of questionable sustainability). Everything the State really needs to accomplish to keep running for the next two years has already been done.

    These are the only subjects which may be considered during this special session. As you can see, nothing which will stop the operation of the State if not acted upon.

    • Consider and act upon legislation to improve early warning systems and other preparedness infrastructure in flood-prone areas throughout Texas. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]
    • Consider and act upon legislation to strengthen emergency communications and other response infrastructure in flood-prone areas throughout Texas. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]
    • Consider and act upon legislation to provide relief funding for response to and recovery from the storms which began in early July 2025, including local match funding for jurisdictions eligible for FEMA public assistance. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]
    • Consider and act upon legislation to evaluate and streamline rules and regulations to speed preparedness for and recovery from natural disasters. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]
    • Consider and act upon legislation to eliminate the STAAR test and replace it with effective tools to assess student progress and ensure school district accountability. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]
    • Consider and act upon legislation reducing the property tax burden on Texans and legislation imposing spending limits on entities authorized to impose property taxes. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]
    • Consider and act upon legislation making it a crime to provide hemp-derived products to children under 21 years of age. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]
    • Consider and act upon legislation to comprehensively regulate hemp-derived products, including limiting potency, restricting synthetically modified compounds, and establishing enforcement mechanisms, all without banning a lawful agricultural commodity. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]
    • Consider and act upon legislation further protecting unborn children and their mothers from the harm of abortion. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]
    • Consider and act upon legislation prohibiting taxpayer-funded lobbying, including the use of tax dollars to hire lobbyists and payment of tax dollars to associations that lobby the Legislature. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]
    • Consider and act upon legislation, similar to Senate Bill No. 1278 from the 89th Legislature, Regular Session, that protects victims of human trafficking from criminal liability for non-violent acts closely tied to their own victimization. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]
    • Consider and act upon legislation that protects law enforcement officers from public disclosure of unsubstantiated complaints in personnel files. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]
    • Consider and act upon legislation protecting women's privacy in sex-segregated spaces. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]
    • Consider and act upon legislation proposing a constitutional amendment allowing the Attorney General to prosecute state election crimes. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]
    • Consider and act upon legislation that provides a revised congressional redistricting plan in light of constitutional concerns raised by the U.S. Department of Justice. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]
    • Consider and act upon legislation, similar to Senate Bill No. 648 from the 89th Legislature, Regular Session, that provides strengthened protections against title theft and deed fraud. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]
    • Consider and act upon legislation, similar to Senate Bill No. 1253 from the 89th Legislature, Regular Session, that authorizes political subdivisions to reduce impact fees for builders who include water conservation and efficiency measures. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]
    • Consider and act upon legislation, similar to Senate Bill No. 2878 from the 89th Legislature, Regular Session, relating to the operation and administration of the Judicial Department of state government. [Wed Jul 9, 2025]

    The next regular session is in a year and a half, I suspect the blockage will be over by then.

    The idea of fleeing to prohibit a quroum is not new, and not unique to Texas. Neither is the idea of arresting the lawmakers for refusing to do their jobs. The first effort to do so was in 1870, when a number of State Senators objected to the Militia Bill, enabling the Governor to declare martial law, and also establishing the State Police. They were arrested, and enough dragged back into the senate chamber to form the quorum. The rest were held under arrest for three weeks until the end of the session.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “I never used any abuse in my post …..”

    Well you did- in the olde days it would be deemed “uncivil” at the very least - well that’s what the mods used to tell me when they banned me from challenging Biden supporters.
    here is your post in all its “uncivil” glory:

    “This is as clueless of a post as I've read on this thread and that's saying something.”

    So why don’t you stop distracting from the key points in my post with your “outrage”, and start speaking civilly about the facts I outlined ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,798 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    There was a study done by two English universities and they asked world class athletes from multiple sports how they felt about trans women in female sport and 77% said they were against it.

    So yeah they don't talk about it much but they are strongly against it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,798 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    The post was completely off the wall and untrue.

    So either you were deliberately trolling or you are clueless on the subject.

    It's one or the other. Make your mind up which.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “The post was completely off the wall and untrue. “

    So that’s a “no” then- fine- you obviously can’t be reasoned with- have a nice day🙂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,934 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Where in the Trump legislation does it mention 'cheek swab' or a central repository of DNA records for all athletes at all levels from preteen to Olympic level.

    And would you support the government keeping a dna analysis of every single resident of the US, and would you trust them to not abuse that data?

    Ban billionaires



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,282 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    I've been saying this all along!

    Claims six peace deals in six months! Israel & Iran, DR Congo & Rwanda, Cambodia & Thailand, India & Pakistan, Serbia & Kosovo, Egypt & Ethiopia. (mostly false claims)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,798 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    And he bombed Iran, don't forget that one. That alone should ensure he doesn't even get considered for a Nobel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,827 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Again, his obsession with the peace prize is solely based on the fact Obama was awarded it. These sham announcements are probably more for him to cry foul when he doesn’t win it.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,171 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    The same place it mentions genital tests - nowhere. Also it isnt legislation it is an EO.

    World athletics have already instigated the cheek swabs, as have boxing. Its ultimately up to the sports bodies how to do it but expect more to follow suit.

    It is a very weird thing to highlight as a negative when it is one of the things he has done with the most broad support.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 574 ✭✭✭pad406


    I hope he cries and cries and cries

    And I'll be crying along with him……………….. in laughter 😁



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 98,221 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    If everything else Trump has done isn't right you are into "even a stopped clock is right twice a day" territory.

    Except you are in the "a group I don't like are getting punished" territory, which is the only thing that unites his supporters. Many of who fall into groups that other supports want to see punished.

    We know what Trump is against , what is he for ?

    What good has he done for everyone ? That wasn't eroded by his other actions.

    What good has he done for every one of his supporters ?

    What good has he done for the majority of the people who voted for him ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,009 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Won't be happening, well at least not in the women's events, as Caster has the male DSD 46 XY 5-ARD (5-alpha-reductase deficiency).

    People with this particular DSD have male XY chromosomes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    She’s a blonde joke b1tch - she’s the most obvious troll and purveyor of false information from the current American regime - she doesn’t deserve to be in this thread



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,161 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    regards transgenderism in sports it’s extremely complicated and I think individual sports should be making rules based on science and sound advice. I do find it funny that it was soundly you were born with either male of female genitalia so that’s what you are for a long time until the Algerian boxer came along and suddenly it was chromosones. Her case showed that it’s not as simple as what you were born with.
    I support people’s rights to be what they feel but I do think in some things like sport there just needs to be rules made by the sporting bodies not the American government.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,934 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    The link in my post referred to the bill passed by the republicans in Congress

    Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act of 2025,

    This is the bill that will be used to decide who gets to participate in federally funded sporting activities (including anything school related if there is federal funding) and may be the blueprint for further legislation relating to state and other regulations that affect sports partipation

    The Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act of 2025 specifically defines sex as determined by "reproductive biology and genetics at birth," which is contradictory in the case of intersex individuals or people who may have male chromosomes but lack dominant male genital features

    Less than 1% of people are transgender, far less than 1% of elite athletes are transgender, and about 1-.1% of people have intersex characteristics.

    Your obsession with transgender issues will force every single child and adult who wants to participate in any kind of sport, to have a genetic test, and have the results of that test stored and maintained in a permanent record accessible to any sporting body who may ask to see it.

    What a win that is

    Also, this when you expand this to the issue of trans people using gendered bathrooms, how does that work, does every single person have a right to demand to see that certificate from anyone standing next to them in a bathroom? Or will there be designated gender inspectors for each bathroom?

    What happens if you are asked to prove you're a man when using the toilet, or if your sister is asked to prove she is a woman? Or your daughter has to prove she's a girl?

    Ban billionaires



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,171 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    DSDs are not new and did not first come up with Khalif.

    That aside - and this thread isn't the place for that discussion - this position is largely what a loud cohort of the Democrats railed strongly against and what some prominent people in the party are being castigated for now having (cf. Buttigieg). When surveys showed that voters thought Harris was too far left, this is the kind of thing they were talking about (I propose anyway). The Democrats have been very poor on these issues and opened the space for Trump to, very ludicrously, claim he was on the side of women.

    It is part of a wider issue for Dems and messaging, not entirely dissimilar to the Gaza issue. Trump and his sycophants (which seems now to be the entire Republican party) will full throatily support everything he does whereas a small deviation on any fringe on the D side and it is an unforgivable crime. I'm not convinced they've learned this lesson yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,934 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Theres a big difference between a majority opposing something, and that same majority 'strongly opposing' something

    And of course there is a whole load of nuance on this subject. Being opposed to trans women who transitioned post puberty and have full male sex characteristics in professional in heavy weight boxing is different to being opposed to trans women in amateur tennis where the woman transitioned as an adolescent and never completed puberty.

    Ban billionaires



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,934 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Agreed that its not the place to discuss the issue of whether trans athletes should be allowed to compete, but given that Trump is fully intent on banning it, the (current and potential future) consequences of those bans should be completely within the topic of this thread.

    Ban billionaires



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,359 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Considerations 1 to 4 are sensible given the snap weather changes. Con 5, the STAAR test; is that relative to the scrapping of the Dept of Education necessitating the state to take over the former legal care duties of that Dept?

    Con 6, property tax revenue, citizen appreciated.

    Con 7, hemp sale age restriction to children under 21, I see the age of majority in Texas is 18. Is there a possible conflict in legislation there? Con 8 would probably be affected by Con 7.

    Con 9 might be affected by future SCOTUS rulings overturning or being contrary to prior SCOTUS rulings, almost a matter of conjecture at the moment.

    Cons 10 to 12, citizens likely would approve action on them.

    Con 13, no comment.

    Con 14, is that state constitutional amendment made by way of referendum of state citizens or one left to decision of the State AG? Con 15, well that's likely connected to the ongoing row between the Governor, the AG and the Dems so I'll step around it. Cons 16 to 18 look standard fare for any state legislature so I'll leave them as they lie. Thanks for the input.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,359 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It's possible that the firing of the IRS commissioner is directly linked to the efforts of Trump Admin insiders to allow the personal details of IRS customers (the citizenry of the U.S.) become available to I.C.E through the Admin so I.C.E could use it to arrange for raids of businesses reliant on immigrant labour. There's been a dispute several months old between IRS and the Admin about the sanctity of customers IRS returns information. Homeland Security seemingly sent a list of some 40,000 names to IRS asking for the addresses of the named persons so they could "confirm" if the named persons were illegals in the U.S. Its hardly a coincidence that the firing of the commissioner took place before the weekend, with his temporary work replacement being Scott Bessent, until a full time named replacement can be confirmed. Now it remains to be seen if some-one with cojones takes a risk and reveals the IRS details of the senior member of the Admin to the public as a matter of public policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,992 ✭✭✭✭briany


    @Akrasia

    Also, this when you expand this to the issue of trans people using gendered bathrooms, how does that work, does every single person have a right to demand to see that certificate from anyone standing next to them in a bathroom? Or will there be designated gender inspectors for each bathroom?

    What happens if you are asked to prove you're a man when using the toilet, or if your sister is asked to prove she is a woman? Or your daughter has to prove she's a girl?

    This is an interesting question and I remember it was only a few months ago that, I want to say, Lauren Boebert misidentified a woman using the Congressional women's toilets.

    And yes, after checking, it was Lauren -

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/lauren-boebert-trump-transgender-policy-b2685813.html

    In Trump's America, the answer to your original question will probably be 'yes'. You can confront a person in the women's toilets if you think they look a bit 'mannish'. If we're talking about an administration that wants to repeal birthright citizenship, I don't think they'll care too much about women being publicly humiliated because they've laid off the Immac.

    However, I don't know if this will be a statistically-significant occurrence. That said, I don't know if obvious men sauntering into ladies was ever a statistically-significant occurrence, either, but incidents of either variety would be massively amplified by social media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,934 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Its not a problem because nobody is checking now, because nobody really cares. A person who dresses and looks like a woman should use a womans bathroom. But Trumps anti woke America cares about what is under the skirt, and is trying to make it impossible for trans people to use public bathrooms.

    This means that any lunatic who 'suspects' that a woman in the womans bathroom is a 'man' can demand that she proves her gender.

    In a normal society this would never arise, because polite people would not degrade other people to conform to their own warped political ideology, but this is 2025 Trump USA, so it will absolutely be weaponised

    Ban billionaires



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,992 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Yes, if you're a woman with some physical features that society has deemed unfeminine, be it a square jaw, hairy legs, or a deep voice, your chances of being humiliated in a women's toilets have gone up in Trump's America.

    Trump's stance on all this wasn't exactly unknown before the 2024 election and America still plonked for this crowd. They made their bed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,741 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    There loads of trans threads to take that discussion too, Please please let's not swamp this thread with that discussion...



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 98,221 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭amandstu


    I hope anyone in that situation would be able to sue for false arrest

    I remember back in the day professional shoplifters would attempt to deceive the shop staff that they had taken something whereas they had surreptitiously replaced the object apparently stolen.

    Once they were forcibly detained (esp in the street) they would act the aggrieved and threaten legal action ,hoping for a settlement out of court.

    If similar happened to a female using the public toilets who just happened to look male and suffered public humiliation and/or manhandling then perhaps they could also ,justifiably or as a scam have a claim against the premises or the people involved.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,721 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    5) The STAAR test is a Texas-specific exam administered by the Texas Education Agency. It occurs once a year, and there was a lawsuit over it from several school districts about two years ago due to what they claimed was insufficient notice of how the results would be graded. (For the purposes of rating the school districts, not the students). The State Appeals Court made its ruling on the matter (the districts lost) about a month ago, after the scheduled legislative session ended.

    The bill to replace it proposes instead of one exam a year, three, to allow for more opportunities for students to be assessed and for schools to adapt to meet the needs of the students, and for school districts to see how they are performing in the eyes of the State.

    7) If we can restrict alcohol to 21-year-olds, I don't see why we can't restrict hemp. That said, interestingly, Texas' law prohibiting 18-20-year-olds from carrying a handgun was struck down by federal court a couple years ago. It's not a direct comparison, one is specified in both the federal and State Constitutions, the other is not.

    9) Possibly. It is intended to restrict access to abortion pills, and is enforced by civil action in a similar manner to the Texas Heartbeat Act which thus far has done a remarkably good job of surviving legal challenges.

    14) is the legislation to put forward a referendum to be held by in May 2026 to change the laws on the matter. Two changes are proposed. One changes the word "he" to "the attorney general", the other adds authorisation for the state attorney general to prosecute a case in violation of the state election laws in addition to the county attorney who currently has such authority. Though I'm ordinarily very hesitant to think anything Paxton does is good, I don't have huge issue with this one.

    Post edited by Manic Moran on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,244 ✭✭✭Field east


    all the claims that most of the Americans are out for themselves only , are happy that Trump is ‘ putting it up’ to the establishment, puts manners on NATO, showing how is a ‘strongman’ re his position on Israel and Russia , etc, etc, etc, etc.

    we must remember that we are getting ALL-THIS INafORMATION from the majority of media sources that are ‘OWNED’ by Trump. Those that are not ‘owned ‘by him are afraid of him .
    there is a clear PRECIDENT if anyone wants to see how effective ‘ owning’ ALL the media in a nation is. One needs to go no further than RUSSIA



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 98,221 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    The Trump-Putin negotiations have gotten off to a great start.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c04rd19e5epo

    President Vladimir Putin has presented US President Donald Trump's special envoy with an award to pass on to a senior CIA official whose son was killed fighting with Russia in Ukraine.

    Putin gave the Order of Lenin to Steve Witkoff during his trip to Moscow this week to discuss a plan to end the Ukraine war, sources familiar with the matter told the BBC's US partner CBS.

    Putin has marked his territory, again.

    This isn't even talks about talks. Ukraine aren't involved.

    Expect Trump to be upset when Ukraine don't give in to unilateral demands from Russia.



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