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Tesla Talk 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    read something recently which surmised that be bought twitter as a payment platform not a social media one, no idea as i dont use it myself!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,775 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Yes the only thing that makes sense to me is to create a single app that does it all. Pretty much all phone and video calls, all emails, all messaging, all sharing, all payments, all streaming, all social media, all online shopping, all deliveries. One app that does everything. Like they have WeChat in China. If you got a few billion people to exclusively use that, would be an extremely powerful and profitable business

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,775 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    All sold, bought 7 days ago for $299, sold just now for $329. Sweet. Now the usual wait begins again as usual. With of course again the one big risk I am taking: it will go up higher and I won't be able to buy back in. But you can never take away realised gains.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,775 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Marques Brownlee does a comparison between Waymo and Tesla taxis in Austin

    Basically both are only at the start of the curve and need a lot of improvement and Waymo is a bit ahead when it comes to the user experience. And Tesla still has the safety person in the car

    That said, Waymo has been around as a taxi for nearly 7 years. Tesla just a few months…

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,157 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    There be years of teething problems with this.
    Waymo crashed into a fire truck this week. Just goes to show that all the lidar in the world doesn’t make these things much better.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,775 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    It's a mistake to believe robotaxis - from whatever manufacturer - will never crash or should not be allowed until they are proven to never cause any issues. The only thing we need here is for them to be proven safer than humans. They will kill people. It is inevitable.

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,157 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Agree somewhat. Even though I don’t have any interest in the robotaxi/ FSD currently.

    Every success story start out with failure stories.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The end goal would be standardized protocols and automated roads where all the cars are communicating with rhe road and with each other making accidents very unlikely. A time will come where only autonomous vehicles are allowed on certain roads.

    You can't jump straight to that. It needs to evolve. We're unfortunately in the early crappy stages of that evolution. Think of the early days of the ICE. Although I would expect the evolution to be very rapid, especially once AI evolves to a level where technological advancements are exponential and cheap. It sounds like pie in the sky. Many would disagree and many more would say it's very close to reality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,775 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    I picked myself up another Model S yesterday, can't help myself 🤪

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭JOL1


    Its a view…but not sure everyone would believe in what yu beleive to be the end goal of the necessity for cars to communicate with the road and how scalable and cost effectove that would be for mass market road usage



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭maidhc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,775 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    NI. I could tell you how much, but then I would have to kill you 😂

    Removed frunk, topped up coolant with G48, checked 12V battery, got tyres done, booked in for brakes in the morning, Tesla service booked for tomorrow to replace the main battery fuse. The car won the battery lottery as it was originally an 85D, but Tesla fitted a brand new 90D battery. They normally only ever fit reconditioned batteries, but they must have run out. Sunroof not working, but I am not getting that fixed - it is not leaking. 129k miles on the clock. CCS upgrade done. Black, good spec, don't know yet if it has 11kW or 22kW AC charging. It was still showing 220km range after my 160km trip back from NI, so battery is very good

    On Irish plates the weekend after next, then NCT - it should get 2 full years NCT as the car is from 2016. Then I'll put it up for sale. It should easily be the cheapest Model S for sale in Ireland that doesn't have any major issues

    Anyone interested, PM me

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,239 ✭✭✭wassie


    Wheres the thread about what you bought next Unkel?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,775 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    I'd have to start one several times a year if I did that again 😂 I thought I might as well post in here as it's a Tesla this time. Not a motorbike or a micro car or a nano car or a van or a scooter or a bike. Or a former diesel car. Just an EV 😂

    Mmmh, I haven't done an electric boat yet. Must put that on the list of things to do…

    "Make no mistake. The days of the internal combustion engine are definitely numbered" - Quentin Willson, 1997



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭September1


    I heard that some recent update removes battery health test, I wonder if anyone noticed that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,103 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Has anybody heard any more about the model 2/Q/Redwood that was due for deliveries in 2025 (this year)

    Feels like the deadline might get missed



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,157 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    from the web


    Industry analysts forecast late 2025 to 2026 as a realistic earliest delivery window.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,103 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    There's a few of those websites out there yeah. Nothing concrete from Tesla themselves though



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,157 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Nope. It’s always just websites throwing FUD around.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,502 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    …..

    Post edited by drunkmonkey on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭The 1922 Committee


    https://archive.is/BmYmS

    At these discounted lease prices in the UK Tesla must be losing money on each unit sold.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    that won’t be remembered when people post the Aug UK deliveries :)


    There’s been an incredible amount of insider selling resently - from Kimball M, Murdock, senior exec’s, directors, CFO etc - apparently they’ve sold down over 50% of their combined shares.

    Absolutely no one buying. For momentum stocks like Tesla, it’s hugely telling.

    There’s infinite reasons why someone sells shares, but almost no positive reason for the share price for them to sell so much, and for no one to be buying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,776 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I've said it before but anyone buying or selling or hodling TSLA at the moment is just gambling.

    52 Week Range202.59 - 488.54



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    discounted lease deals in the UK seem to be the norm from BMW to Audi to Mercedes, pity we cant avail of these deals here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,776 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    It's one thing that is really missing from our market here, we never get any good private car lease deals.

    Everyone and his mother in the UK and US can lease cheaper than buying, sometimes drastically so, but not here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    yep have often look jealously at threads on pistonheads and similar with some ridiculous lease deals on some very nice performance motors in the UK, VW especially from what i can recall, guess its too small a market here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    ”Tesla lease customers can currently secure a Model 3 RWD standard range, with a list price of just under £40,000, for £300 a month including VAT via Silverstone Leasing. According to the Times, a similar deal a year ago would have cost between £600 and £700.”

    Lease deals are why only 10% of UK annual car sales are what we would call ‘private’ sales, according to SMMT.

    That Tesla lease is a bit like us paying €300 on a €37k RWD, which is €18k over a 5 year lease, and a 5 year old RWD is worth €19k at best today, so really you’re still paying all the depreciation, it’s just ‘interest free’ - or do I have that wrong?

    As for the previous lease price, Imagine paying £700/€800 pm for a model 3?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭JOL1


    Suspect that headline £300 also includes an upfront payment and the term may well be 36 months as opposed to 60. Without the specifics its difficult to form a view



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Yes will be 24 or 36 months potentially with a 3 or 4 month payment at the start as well



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,647 ✭✭✭sk8board


    Depending on the upfront lump, I suppose it’s about €1k pa better than buying outright, in an Irish context, and obviously if you’re a business it makes it a no-brainer, but it’s possibly no better than we’d pay here, even with this big drop.

    It makes the previous £700 lease a pretty awful deal.



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