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Ryan Tubridy ; Has he paid back the Irish Tax Payer ?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    He always be No Integrity Tubridy so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    I don't 'hate' Duffy or Tubridy but that doesn't make me 'a fan' of either broadcaster.

    Yes I agree many of the 'talent' contracts were extravagant including Duffy's which only recently terminated without any apparent damage to his standing with the public.

    On the question of whether RTE asked for the money back this question was addressed during RTE's appearance before the PAC on the 13th July 2023.

    (2) 'Has RTÉ asked Mr Tubridy to repay 150k? - Deputy John Brady - speech from 13 Jul 2023 - YouTube

    The video is just over 12 minutes long but the relevant bit starts around the 11 minute mark.

    The answer from the RTE CFO was that they hadn't asked for the €150k back and explained why, followed by Bakhurst's intervention regarding how he welcomed RT's offer which I've mentioned previously in this thread.

    If you have a link to where RTE has since July 2023 asked for the return of the money then please furnish it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,873 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Do you want me to look up the Media Committee for you?

    https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/oireachtas/2025/05/28/live-updates-rte-oireachtas-media-committee/

    and if you can't trust the times

    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/joint_committee_on_arts_media_communications_culture_and_sport/2025-05-28/speech/474/

    Much of this controversy started with an individual the Cathaoirleach referenced earlier, Ryan Tubridy, and the payment of €150,000. Is RTÉ still aiming to retrieve that money? Where is it at?

    KB4 replies

    The answer is that Ryan Tubridy has not paid back that amount. We have asked him. We have no legal basis, as I have said previously, but I would like him to pay it back obviously.

    It will be interesting to see if Duffy got an exit payment, like that of Pat Kenny when he left.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Your second link does show that Bakhurst said 'we asked him' but this rather lacks detail and seems like a throw away remark in something that was more focused on the League of Ireland. No doubt he was referencing the contract discussions of 2023 where I'm sure it came up before he terminated them.

    "The answer is that Ryan Tubridy has not paid back that amount. We have asked him. We have no legal basis, as I have said previously, but I would like him to pay it back obviously.

    On the League of Ireland, we will look at radio coverage. I do not know what the rights deal is that Virgin got, so I do not know what the options are."

    Your first link doesn't support your point at all.

    "The payments were nominally made by Renault but RTÉ effectively underwrote all three payments, totalling €225,000 and paid for them.

    The existence of the payments were never made public until the issue was raised by the RTÉ board, and its new chairwoman Siún Ní Raghallaigh, in the summer of 2023.

    Mr Tubridy only fulfilled one of the three public engagements and told the Oireachtas media committee in 2023 that he would be willing to repay the balance of €150,000 if he returned to RTÉ.

    However, some weeks later Mr Bakhurst announced that negotiations with Mr Tubridy had concluded and he would not be returning to the broadcaster.

    Asked then, and later, should Mr Tubridy repay the €150,00, the director general said that on a legal basis, it might not be available to recuperate.

    “Should Mr Kelly and Mr Tubridy decide to pay it back because it’s the right thing to do then we would welcome that,” he told the committee in 2023.

    He later said there was a “moral” case for Mr Tubridy to repay the amount."

    And later in the piece:

    "Kevin Bakhurst has confirmed the former RTÉ broadcaster has not repaid two payments of €75,000 he received as part of the controversial Renault deal in 2020.

    Mr Bakhurst has previously said that there was a “moral case” for Mr Tubridy to make the repayment.

    When questioned by Pádraig O’Sullivan (Fianna Fáil) at committee, Mr Bakhurst confirmed Mr Tubridy, who now works as a broadcaster in London, has never made the repayments.

    The two payments were made by means of a barter account, which essentially shielded the payments from public view."

    So to conclude, in 2025 the RTE position is that legally if not morally (in their view) Tubridy is entitled to keep the €150K.

    Given that's their position it seems unlikely they will ever formally request its return.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,873 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    @Cyclingtourist

    So a few posts back I said

    I think RTÉ said in the last Oireachtas they asked but it was a very much, we've asked but we aren't asking again and have no real interest. Renault never paid this 150k so they aren't looking for the work to be carried out.

    Can you give me that ?

    The TD/Sendator asked 2 questions, the first I quote and I reference KB4's answer in relation to that, yes, there are other question in the Media committee put to RTÉ. (I was highlight that part of the question).

    But just to quote you on the idea that he didn't say "he asked" or that "rte asked" he says (I have bold the area where says and I quote "We have asked him"

    "The answer is that Ryan Tubridy has not paid back that amount. We have asked him. We have no legal basis, as I have said previously, but I would like him to pay it back obviously.

    "We have asked him" and if you could acknowledge that I took this as "we've asked but we aren't asking again, and have no real interest"

    You quote the article

    Kevin Bakhurst has confirmed the former RTÉ broadcaster has not repaid two payments of €75,000 he received as part of the controversial Renault deal in 2020.

    So to conclude in 2025 the RTE position is that legally if not morally (in their view) Tubridy is entitled to keep the €150K.

    Given that's their position it seems unlikely they will ever formally request its return.

    Have I said otherwise? (Though i think you mean RTÉ believe morally he should, but legally they have no avenues to demand that money be returned*).

    Also Renault never paid RTÉ that money.

    *and they have moved on, and aren't pushing for the return of that money.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    Yes I accept Bakhurst said 'we asked him' although when isn't clear or whether it was during the aborted negotiations. I've already acknowledged this in my previous post.

    I think we can agree they're unlikely to be making an issue of this as in the scheme of things it's not a significant sum and 'asking' would be more like pleading.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,873 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    RTÉ don't want to make an issue out of any off this.

    You have to remember there are 2 parts of the scandal.

    The first goes back to Toy Show the Musical, RTÉ refused point blank to release any details of its failure, but clearly RTÉ during the run was under pressure, here's an article out lining how good the musical was and don't be critical think of the staff and children working on the show

    https://www.rte.ie/eile/2022/1217/1342461-dee-forbes-rte-is-very-proud-of-toy-show-the-musical/

    The Oireachtas had asked about the show, only to be told that RTÉ were rethinking the project but that it would be back.

    Then Tubs' payments are pointed to and RTÉ had to be open about these payment. This lead to RTÉ having to be honest about everything, and we get the fall out of the Toy Show the Musical, the flip-flops, the bus to croke park, guests to The Olympics and so on and so forth.

    But lets not for get for 20 years RTÉ had spun the idea to get the best you have to pay well, and this goes back not just to Tubs deal (unilaterally agree to by Dee Forbes) but other the whole idea of these presenters getting so much money.

    No one mentions the €50k moving expenses given to Forbes when she took the job, no one mentions the flights to NYC given to the former head of news for non RTÉ related work, we seem to forget that the leadership team may still be in receipt of €25k in car allowances, while €70k was spent on the autumn scheduled launch in 2022… as they continued to say they have no money.

    And I am not trying to derail from the €150k but it might be small but it adds into all the other €150k and they still do this, have you seen their €100k news promo that was launched?

    How can RTÉ say anything moral about Tubs when they signed of on Breda O'Kefee's exit payment.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    ^^Couldn't have put it better myself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    So we are all agreed then that NIT (no integrity Tubridy) should pay back the money. Nice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    IIt's His immoral behaviour I've an issue with. He knew what he was earning. What fool doesn't?

    He knew the ins and outs of whatever deal was made with rte for his suspect talent.

    He sat in front of the PAC committee and said he woukd pay it back.

    Immoral weasly behaviour.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    The late night (presuming they're keeping Irish time) haters are out in force.

    The Indo survey said 31% of the Irish people think the €150k is his and he should keep it, apparently another 14% are don't knows/cares. My own position is it's legally his and what he does with it after paying tax is his business. IMO he has no moral obligation to give it to RTE.

    As regards whether I think he has talent yes I do even though I don't regularly listen to him and didn't when he was on RTE Radio One.

    Neither did I regularly watch the LLS when he had that gig but then I don't watch it now either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    ’my own position’ 😂😂


    So why do you care about is soooo much that you continue to post about it ? What is YOUR motivation.

    Mine is that he said he would do something but hasn’t done it. Again, No Integrity Tubridy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    "So why do you care about is soooo much that you continue to post about it ? What is YOUR motivation."

    Good question and one that applies even more to you, someone who hasn't lived in Ireland for 'quite a few years' yet you care enough to start a thread about it.

    My answer is I'm interested, as an Irish citizen and resident, in how the RTE revelations of 2023 were handled by politicians and the media. I'm also interested in how other Irish 'scandals' are also exploited by politicians and media. These two groups have their own interests to further under the cloak of 'serving the public'. IMO Tubridy was the perfect fall guy for the mis-management of RTE over many years.

    Why do you care soooooooo much that you started this thread under a misleading headline?

    What is YOUR motivation?

    Edit: I now see your

    "Mine is that he said he would do something but hasn’t done it. Again, No Integrity Tubridy."

    So you're so concerned you felt the urge to start a thread about Tubridy's supposed lack of integrity? Really?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    I think he’s a slimy character and has always come across as an incredibly disingenuous person.

    I never liked him because he is so transparently a false person. His ‘work’ on TV was unbearable. Cringe of the highest order. He had zero skills to do the job he had.

    I can’t believe better options were not available so I just always presumed he was well connected and was sucking from the teet of the public purse. The worst kind of entitled fraud.

    That was highlighted when he said he would pay the money back and just as I expected, he hasn’t. I hope the Irish public NEVER forget that.

    He’ll always be No Integrity Tubridy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    So you hate Ryan Tubridy and have always done so, suspected as much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    That’s a fairly pathetic summation from you but I didn’t expect anything less from a fanboy of No Integrity Tubridy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    I think some people in this thread are being wholly nieve and a little bit silly re: Tubs repaying money. Let’s play it out…

    IRL this has played out. The money has been spend and truth be known RTE have probably pissed as much money away since on biscuits and tea.

    What’s the ideal situation? Tubridy, Noel Kelly and sure well included the new fiancée (sure didn’t we as taxpayer pay for her trillion dollar engagement ring?) rock up RTE or even the revenue office with a suitcase full of money. They drop it off, Tubs breaks down and gives a tearful “hands up” apology to the onlooking media. We celebrate in the streets that a massive wrong has been righted and thank god everyone here can forgive Ryan. All it now well and he can go back on the Irish Irish Irish radio where he belongs.


    Please someone tell be how RT paying it back plays out? Beyond “He pays. I sleep better at night”?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    It's a fairly accurate summation, confirmed by your knee-jerk name calling reaction to a dissenting voice.

    Typically 'haters' can't stand it when people disagree. Objectivity is the ultimate failing.

    Bye Bye



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,635 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    He’ll never pay it back. He has justified it, in his mind, that it’s his money. That’s how entitlement works.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,873 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    He is certainly making head way on that front.

    https://www.nch.ie/all-events-listing/nch-presents-against-all-certainty-sep25/

    The celebratory evening will see the President’s poems at the heart of the concert, read by poet Paula Meehan, novelist Sebastian Barry, rapper God Knows, singer and poet Imelda May, broadcaster Ryan Tubridy, icon Panti Bliss, performer Olwen Fouéré accompanied by Myles O’Reilly and National Symphony Orchestra Ireland.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,212 ✭✭✭creedp


    Imagine the void in certain people’s life if that scenario played out? I wonder what next bad boy would they target? Could there be a badder boy ever?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭badabing106


    Ryan is a good egg and who guided a big segment of the population through he pandemic. The late late was an important weekly informational bulletin on the trials and tribulations of a nation. Rightly or wrongly dee thought he was worth the extra wedge

    Not his fault that his agent was good at his job and Rte simply didn't care how much they forked out on their "stars" as it wasn't their money in the first place. I'm sure his agent knew Dee was a soft touch with the checkbook. The agent is just doing his job for his client

    Ask yourself, if your agent or manager was able to persuade a company to pay you an extra 150k, you would take it and not feel guilty at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,873 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Of course not, and again for the last 25 years or more RTÉ have been bad in negotiations with "stars".

    I wouldn't argue either way on how upstand Tubs is, but I would say I don't believe him when he says he didn't know anything about how much he was paid or how he was paid.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,244 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    If he was that clued in, he'd be well aware of the risks associated with €150,000, reputational damage given his earnings power at the time. How much has that €150,000 cost him in earnings? He's on a fraction of his former salary.

    The release of the RTE top salaries is a big media story every year, any current affairs commentator paying attention would be well aware of that.
    So either he's a competent current affairs commentator or he is not.

    If he was worth the extra wedge, he was worth being paid for it as part of his clearly declared remuneration, instead of these sham events organised merely to funnel a 'wedge' to Tubridy away from scrutiny.

    And also, he is self employed and a director of the company, he can't play ignorance on that score either.

    A good egg aware of all that would have from the outset either made sure the work was done OR the monies returned. If it came to it, make some sort of comparable donation to the Toy Show fund. Had he done that and kept his mouth shut, he'd be back at RTE now, and he could draw a line under this.

    Catch 22.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,966 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Not sure about the 150k but he did waive his right to a contract completion payment of 120k which, after tax etc, should have him well in the black with RTÉ.

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,023 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Fair play to you for persistence.

    You have raised this matter at least three times before and been ignored.

    Maybe someone will address it this time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,244 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,023 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    I don't think that really clears up the issue.

    If he was contractually entitled to receive the €120k and waived it why can it not be offset against the €150k ?

    Also if he paid tax on the €150k that sum never was available to him net. to apply to any item of expenditure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    No doubt it's ignored because it doesn't fit the popular narrative.

    "A second Grant Thornton report has confirmed RTÉ presenter Ryan Tubridy waived a €120,000 exit free which he was entitled at the end of his contract.

    The former Late Late Show host told an Oireachtas Committee hearing last month that because of how RTÉ reported his decision to waiver the payment in its accounts, the narrative became that he had taken the money and hidden it – which he said was not true.

    RTÉ’s Chief Financial Officer Richard Collins said that “for an unexplained reason that €120,000 was credited against his earnings between 2017 and 2019. That’s under investigation at the moment”."

    RTÉ payments scandal: New Grant Thornton report confirms Ryan Tubridy waived €120,000 exit fee | Goss.ie

    'under investigation at the moment' 🙄 I bet it is.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,244 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    It does to my satisfaction as it explains why he didn't bring it up in his 'defence' in front of the Oireachtas.
    Nor do I call Bakhurst mentioning either when the question is brought up.

    As noted, he could easily make a comparable donation (i.e. for the 'net' figure) to a fund or Toy Show appeal etc etc.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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