Ryan Tubridy ; Has he paid back the Irish Tax Payer ?

He didn't steal anything, did he? If he had I'm sure he'd be in court.

Yeah ok. So it sounds like he was demanding a salary, as high as he could get, just like all of us I assume. RTE became creative with renumeration to skirt public relations issues. Doesn't sound like a Tubridy issue to me, more of an RTE issue. I certainly like being paid, dont you?

But no one was screwed over. I don't care what my colleagues get paid, I get paid whatever I can demand, if I'm not happy I find a better offer else where. It's just business , it's not personal. There's no pleasure or displeasure. Any company will fire you without hesitation if it makes fiscal sense for them, so it's on workers to make hay while the sun shines. It would be different if it were a factory job or something and it was the difference between feeding my children or not, then it's personal, this is not that.

Again though, if there's an issue here it's on the employer

That wasn't the scenario at all, it is a complete over simplification of the scenario that doesn't engage with Tubridy's actual conduct.

You weren't asked if you care what your colleagues were paid. You were asked how you would react to them lying to you about a pay cut OR how you would feel if you were asked to lie to your colleagues about your own pay.

And it's not "just the employer" as if it was any other employer or any other business - it is the public service broadcaster and ultimately public money was in play.

What Tubridy demanded involved being paid for sham events that ultimately put the reputation of RTE and his own professional reputation at stake because of the underhand nature of the dealings.
It had consequences both for his own earning power and for RTE's financial position and jobs of people working there.
Had it been a private company, it could have well gone under.
It wasn't simply a case of Tubridy being paid all above board what he demanded and that all being declared properly. He was him going along with such a dodgy scheme to be paid. A dodgy scheme that then necessitated more public funds being spent on RTE.

That's how you were screwed over by Tubridy & RTE. That's how RTE staff were screwed over by Tubridy & RTE.
As part of being paid via this underhand scheme, Tubridy lied to his colleagues and lied to the Irish public about his remuneration.
Given his role as a public service broadcaster, that strikes me as unethical.
So it is for all of those reasons, both large numbers of RTE staff and the Irish public hold a highly negative opinion of Tubridy's conduct and polls for example showed that he was not wanted back at RTE by the public and should pay the money back.

There are posters like yourself, who argue for all is fair in etc it's just business - that is your opinion.
But it's not just business when it is public funds in play, and Tubridy connived at the waste of public funds.

Tubridy did nothing wrong at least legally. Tubridy hasn't paid back the taxpayer because there is zero obligation for him to do it. If there was RTE would have taken Tubridy to court.

If you are taking the moral angle surely it's the people who agreed the deal that should have to pay it back? But it's easier to go on a witch hunt against a public figure instead of the relatively faceless people who agreed the deal. And if you object to calling it a witch hunt, look at Joe Duffy. Retires after earning huge amounts from the state which never should have been paid and you have people talking about nominating him for president.

No difference between Joe Duffy and Ryan Tubridy. Both earned huge amounts from RTE because RTE management completely overpaid them for years and in Joe Duffys case decades. But Tubridy has been exiled but there was talk about Duffy being a presidential candidate.

Tubridy and Joe Duffy went and got an agent/employee representative/trade union to negotiate on their behalf. The issue seems to be hear that the person they chose ran rings around RTE for decades. No different to what SIPTU/Unite/any decent union try to do.

Yes there was double speak but welcome to employee negotiations. SIPTU will waffle on about homeless and lack of staffing etc etc at the same time arguing for less hours and more pay (so reducing the resources available to help homeless people) at the same time. (Just to be clear in this example SIPTU are doing what they are paid to do) The only difference with Tubridy is that this double speak can be personified. And in cases where SIPTU/another union run rings around the government 150k is pittance when it comes to the money wasted. So if you care about money being wasted lots more serious stuff to look at.

It's not whataboutry. Tubridy is not special, he worked for an employer, he negotiated a contract which included a salary. In legal terms EVERYTHING he did was above board. He is no different to any other employee/contactor in country. The same rules apply to him as everyone else. Again he's not special

Joe Duffy is no different from Tubridy, a person who was grossly overpaid for decades by RTE by a weak management. He was talked about for president but Tubridy has been exiled. The reason I mention Joe Duffy is to highlight your hypocrisy. Both creamed millions over the years from RTE but have been treated very differently.

Tubridy isn't going to pay back the 150k. That's it pure an simple. That's the answer to your question. What Tubridy said in front of PAC has no legal standing and was made in the context of him staying at RTE.

So again the answer to the thread is Tubridy hasn't and unless he decides to change his mind there is no legal way to recover the money. That's the thread done and dusted.

You don't have to like the answer but that's it. Bleating about it here, insulting him and another posters isn't going to change things.

It was textbook whataboutery as demonstrated in this post... bleating Joe Duffy this, Joe Duffy that.

Another post where you demonstrate your ignorance of the subject matter and worse declare you have zero interest in changing that.

But as has been demonstrated on this thread, some peoples standards are whatever is legal is ok and will happily screw over anyone else as long as they think there is a euro at the end of it.

You may be on first person terms with 'Ryan' but Im not.

It takes two to tango. Tubridy and his agent connived with elements in RTE to hide his salary from the proper authorities, including misrepresenting services on an invoice.

https://www.thejournal.ie/noel-kelly-acted-under-instruction-from-rte-when-mislabelling-tubridy-invoices-6116014-Jul2023/

But karma has kicked in, and that short term greed is now costing him in the long run. Tubridy could have still gotten back on his cushy number in RTE had he accepted his wrongdoing but nope.

He could at any point have made a commensurate donation to a suitable charity or fund to put the issue to bed... but nope.

The best possible deal that was anything but, and could easily have been foreseen that such shenanigans would come to light.

Why would he want to recover his "reputation"?

Do you honestly think the guy cares one iota about comments on forum that's struggling to survive?

At this stage

Even if Ryan paid back the money

Sadly it’s too late

He didnt steal the money. That money is just resting in his account.

At this stage it should be well rested.

I picked Joe Duffy because for some bizarre reason people were talking about him for president over the last few weeks. He's interchangeable with practically every high profile presenter at RTE for the last 4/5 decades. All took advantage of an incredibly weak RTE management. Joe Duffy is no different from Tubridy.

And this is the point you don't get. Tubridy is not special. When you or anyone sits down with your employer/customer you are going to try get the best deal you can. When a deal is agreed with your employer/customer its expected to be honoured. If trying to get the best pay and conditions is a bad thing, you need to start taking about disbanding unions. I know you will say this whataboutry. But it's not whataboutry to point out the wider implications of your crusade on the wider public. Again Tubridy isn't a God. The same rules apply to him as everyone else as uncomfortable as it is for you.

RTE isn't making cuts because of Tubridy. 150k even for RTE is feck all. The 150k is symbolic of is how badly RTE was managed. But Tubridy wasn't employed to run RTE.

Here's a last bit of friendly advice. Tubridy isn't giving back the money and there's nothing you can do to change it. You won't change the law because of the knock on implications for everyone else as I've already pointed out. Tubridy won't give a dam about a forum that's struggling to survive. You don't have to like it but it's no good pretending anything different.