Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

There's negative about all things football these days it's getting insane year by year but at the end of the day we all wanted owners to show some kind of desire and ambition and to back a manager properly with players that make sense to his system.

That's exactly what we are getting. Any one that did a proper analysis last year said the most important roles in an Amorim setup are the number 10s. We have addressed that and then some.

If we don't sign a decent midfielder I'll eat my hat

Cert to be paraded before the Fiorentina game so...

I think it's a case of sounding him out and he can be got for a decent price then go for it. If not this season they can then show him we wanted you last season and put themselves in pole position.

Bring him out in a Newcastle shirt first for the craic and swap it with the new third kit in the centre circle.

I'm guessing even Ant and Dec on an open top bus couldnt even sell it to him.

I don't think Onana moves until he is replaced and then his ego will want out pronto, until the new #1 arrives he'll believe hes safe.

You would hope £50m min when your looking at the price of some players these days

I don't get what the compicated part of it would be.
Expensive, yeah - I can certainly see that. But IMO it will be pretty straight forward. You pay the fee or close to it or you don't get him. I don't think Brighton are a particularly crafty or nasty club to deal with. they won't be messing about with moving targets on the fees etc.

IMO if Brighton say they want 115 for him, it won't happen. I think United have to assume it will be 80+, and probably closer to 90 or more. If Brighton will do a deal around that, I think it gets done.

My fear is actually other clubs (Liverpool specifically) coming in for him - and I think if we wait til next summer to try get him Liverpool will be certain to be in for him then. I think that is a big part of the reason we are trying to make it happen now, because it will be even harder to get him next summer.

not at 30m, for a guy that will be on big wages, in his last year.
a nominal fee? maybe. But I think without getting Onana out the door we don't spend big wages on a keeper.

Absolutely - Madueke and Elanga went for similar prices and Garnacho looks to have a higher ceiling in terms of potential than either of them.

As much as his higher potential should increase his value, his past attitude problems and current "persona non grata" decreases it.

Nope, be on the bench for Arsenal I say

I wonder what the parameters of a deal with Chelsea for Garnacho are?

£40-50m is at the low end of his market value imo, I don't really like it. I wonder if we'll try to insert some clauses with ambitious add ons in case he goes on to be a world class star there (which I suspect he may do).

Bringing in proven Premier League forward players like Mbeumo and Cunha has undoubtedly given the squad a boost. Bringing in Sesko would likely bring in a good few goals as well, and would be very welcome given our current strike force. Baleba coming in as well, well that would be lovely, we need a physical and robust presence in the midfield that Amorim plays, and we don't have that right now, he'd be the right job, and Premier League proven again.

So Cunha and Mbuemo confirmed, hopefully Sesko to finalised, and the remote possibility of Baleba? I think INEOS have done more than enough to warrant severe criticism of how they've operated to date, and the mess they helped leave the club with in keeping Ten Hag on when it was clear he was needed to go, but pull off those four as a summer transfer window, then you'd have to tip the hat to them.

It wouldn't just be a good window, it would be finally the club showing real intention and ambition. And I think we can all get behind that, regardless of what INEOS have done in the past.

But it still doesn't guarantee that things will improve. That will be down to Amorim. If, even with those signings, we end with up 4/5 points a goal difference of -6/7/8 after 7 games, the form of last season under him, then Amorim has to go, no questions asked.

While it would be a dream to see United start the season with Baleba in midfield, and Cunha and Mbuemo behind Sesko in the lineup, there would absolutely to excuse for a poor start with those in the team.

Amorim being there at Halloween, never mind Christmas, won't be down to INEOS having a good transfer window, it'll be down to Amorim actually doing something he has failed spectacularly to do so far; get results and have us compete for the European places. Continue the form of last year, and the transfers in or out won't matter, Amorim will get the bullet. He has no excuses left, and certainly not with a revamped front three.

There's plenty of reason for optimism with Cunha, Mbuemo and (looks done) Sesko, in the squad. Baleba is unlikely, but would certainly increase the optimism if he arrived (or if not him, another robust CM). And while for once it's great to see optimism, at the same time, last season has shown enough to be very, very wary about getting your hopes up too much. We could start well and challenge for top 4 with a bit of luck. Or we could lose 5/6 of your first 7/8 games and sack the manager. One is as likely as the other at the moment.

It looks as though INEOS are doing their job this summer, now it's up to Amorim to do his job. I think that'll be the line United fans will be following the next few weeks.