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Craft Butchers?

  • 07-08-2025 08:57AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,855 ✭✭✭✭


    Every butcher seems to be a 'craft butcher' these days. What does it actually mean, I assume just membership of some organisation?

    Also many of them seem to have display fridges full of the same pre-packaged meats and ready to cook sides etc etc. Does all this stuff come the 'white van'?

    What's the story?



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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,973 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    https://www.craftbutchers.ie/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,771 ✭✭✭thebiglad


    in our village the 'Craft' butcher is extremely popular, the meat is definitely better than the supermarkets and if you discuss with the butcher what exactly you intend to do they can provide a more suitable cut or size.

    As for the pre-packed meals, in our butcher they prepare them on site themselves. They do have a deep freeze with the likes of chicken nuggets etc which are commercially labelled and clearly purchased in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Charlo30


    It essential means they can lash on an extra few euros for everything they sell



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,400 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    One in Drogheda, two in Dundalk. I think that disproves the claim that "every butcher seems to be a craft butcher these days".

    https://www.craftbutchers.ie/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,162 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    My go to O'Connor's in Limerick is on that craft list. Better quality and often cheaper than the supermarkets. Food definitely not coming from some "pre packaged" wholesalers.

    O'Connell's next door is quality too and also a "craft butcher".

    I think some people just hate them because they are a little ashamed of the fact they buy the supermarket crap. Trying to feel better about themselves by putting others down.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,889 ✭✭✭Sgt Hartman


    O’Connor’s is also my Dad’s favourite butcher in Limerick. I love the lamb he gets from there.

    Here in Balbriggan there’s an old school butcher in Clonard Street who does some really good stuff. There’s also M&M meats in the Main Street which does some great beef when I can afford it. Beef is gone so pricey now sadly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭joebloggs32


    You always need to watch out for them crafty butchers....they sneak their meat in the back door 😉

    But seriously they generally have better quality than your average supermarket butchers. They need to if they are going to attract in customers who have to go out of their way to pick up their meat after doing their shopping in a supermarket. They might be a little more expensive as they can't put on offers as a loss leader etc like a supermarket can. However I don't mind spending a little more to get better quality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,092 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Anyone been to a supervalu recently.

    What they craft as a butchers now is a joke ..all pre packed stuff and eye watering prices.

    In fact the entire supermarket buisness need a proper prime time or journalist to investigate.

    It Is pure robbery and way past natural increase in costs across economy...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭Danye


    I’d imagine anyone calling themselves a craft butcher is a time served butcher, meaning they served an apprentice and actually learned about their trade.

    Or else it’s someone possibly posing as a butcher and they think that by calling themselves a “Craft Butcher” makes them sound superior to a normal butcher which will attract consumers into their shops.

    It happens in all trades.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,205 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    A craft butcher is a butcher by trade, a seriously skilled professional.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,771 ✭✭✭thebiglad


    I suggest you try one, unless you are looking for the cheapest piece of meat in the supermarket fridges you'll find better value and quality in a butchers. I used to be cynical but, once you've done the butcher a few times you'll not go back to supermarket meat - occasionally in a squeeze I'll still pick up meat at the supermarket but, it honestly is not on the same level.

    Fresh meat is not cheap now wherever you pick it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭Charlo30




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    Anyone buying their meat from a supermarket deserves to reap what they sow.

    There's a reason you have to empty all that grey/brown slop out of the frying pan when you get mince in a supermarket that's been sitting on a styrofoam tray. Find yourself a good, proper butcher. If they're not willing to do the basics for you, then take your money elsewhere. My local fella will happily mince a piece of steak in front of you, if he has sold out of it already. No problem dicing a piece of meat or separating chicken wings etc. He'll gladly cut you a new steak if the ones on display aren't to your liking…………again, basic stuff that was considered standard until very recently.

    I visited the DMC in Artane last year after recommendations from a friend. Never again. 95% of the produce was prepacked, including a mountain of 'fit foods'……feckin microwaveable ready meals and the three 'butchers' were busy stocking shelves while kitted out in white coats and a belt full of knives. Asked the lad behind the counter to debone a few chicken thighs and he said they 'don't do that here'……….I called the others over, believing he was mistaken and one of them laughed in my face and said "do you want us to cook the fcukin dinner for you and all, or what?"

    Absolute shams.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭Banzai600


    we use the one butcher now or a cattle farmer direct, had two butchers, one got canned, i was asking the guy to cut chicken fillets, he scowled under protest, it took him 10 seconds , all in the same bag. so we dont go back. he done the same with herself, he's a moan. i must actually say it to the owner now i think of it when passing.

    we now order meat direct from a farmer in wicklow, and ive got to say, its exceptional. price on par with the butcher, and its delicious.

    i too hate this whole prepacked thing, but the butcher will tell you this is what ppl want, they dont want to handle meat , they want a tray, bulls1t really. so as a consumer who wants "loose" meat you have to subsidize the ppl who want trays, load of bullocks ! if you look at the decor in some of the butchers now, looks like a fcking shoe shop, completely OTT. but you're paying for that too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 10,855 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Just asking a question, definitely don't hate them and not trying to feel better about myself, but thanks for the thought.

    Several of my local butchers on the list. The one I would consider the best is not on it.



  • Subscribers Posts: 736 ✭✭✭FlipperThePriest


    Unpopular opinion incoming: If you think your local butcher is getting better quality meat than major retailers such as Tesco, Dunnes, Aldi etc. with multimillion euro contracts, quality control teams, research and development teams, dedicated food science experts and buyers that visit their suppliers week in, week out, you are having a laugh. 


    Major retailers such as Tesco, Aldi and Dunnes have come a long way since the styrofoam trays of the 90s, and their premium range meat is by far and away the best going. It is a common misconception in the country that the local butcher gets the best meat.

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    I still buy off a few local butchers as it's nice to give them a turn and buy local, but they're not as good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,162 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The vast majority of what those "research and development" teams are doing is trying to find ways to get as much money as possible off you. Quality is not in their remit.

    I know my butcher is buying local. I have literally see him do it at times and I know by eating it that it tastes better than what Tesco sell. I can see it in the cooking too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,509 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,092 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Lol.

    I.do get what you are saying , but is asking for chicken thighs to be deboned a bit precious and OTT...

    Never heard of anyone asking to do that...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,092 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    But you wouldn't handle the meat yourself?

    Asking a butcher to cut up a chicken breast is ridiculous...



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  • Subscribers Posts: 736 ✭✭✭FlipperThePriest


    There are numerous different teams involved; research & development, marketing, sure, but also highly qualified food scientists and microbiologists, not to mention legal teams, all of whom put their reputation on the line every time they make decisions. So to suggest these teams would study in college for 3 or 4 years, work for the biggest retailers in the country, and somehow not have quality in their remit is a little disingenuous and simply not true. Compared to your local butcher, there is significantly more quality invested in major retailers in Ireland that work directly with the FSAI and the various public bodies including the Department of Agriculture to ensure things like full traceability of every sausage or steak sold in the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,162 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    To use an analogy from an industry I have much more experience with breweries like Heineken have "research & development, marketing, highly qualified food scientists and microbiologists, not to mention legal teams" and there is not a hope they are putting their energy into making sure their beer is the best out there. The most easily, cheaply mass produced and the most marketed by a mile but better ingredients than craft not a hope in hell.

    I'm not trying to claim that supermarkets are not complying with traceability or breaking any rules on health but the butchers I use (not every butcher) has meat that tastes, looks and feels better.

    Couldn't give a flying fuk if some scientist can show me the Tesco stuff is better some how. Taste, mouth feel and what I see as I cook it is all I care about and my butchers absolutely win.



  • Subscribers Posts: 736 ✭✭✭FlipperThePriest


    Totally different industry, not a like for like comparison and yes it is well known that breweries skimp on ingredients to brew a blander but more consistent beer. The Irish food industry, however, is respected globally, importers pay a premium for our produce, and major Irish retailers are also getting the finest of what we produce.

    Also, the control groups, blind taste testing panels and qualified tasters, used to verify this on an ongoing basis, who literally taste beef for a living, to ensure these retailers get the best of what's going, would disagree with your "mouth feel and what you see as you cook".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,162 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Seeing the bland shte the majority in this country loves I am happy enough in my belief that the marketing people at Tesco are not picking the best products but rather the best they can get away with charging a particular price for.

    All across the food and drink industry in Ireland mediocrity is rewarded and mostly because huge huge sums of advertising money is spent on them. Dunnes have had to bring the concessions into their major stores and supermarkets have spent years trying to corner markets, close local businesses and pushing loss leaders. Shure why if the stuff is so much better do they need all these tricks.

    Anyway enjoy your bland beer and tasteless lamb. The marketing people say its the best so it must be.



  • Subscribers Posts: 736 ✭✭✭FlipperThePriest


    I brew my own, but thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,221 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    The large supermarkets constantly cut to the farmers who do most of the work in a sustainable and and professional way and just buy of big suppliers and feed lots . Given the choice I 'd go for craft butchers every time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,850 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Balbriggan man Paddy Curtis shut his doors in East Wall recently. Another proper butcher that butchered sides of livestock that hung in the back instead of selling meat from a vacpack. Like yourself I'm a huge advocate for the local butcher. I use about four from Dubin city centre butchers, my local one and a few specialised ones (or farms) for the likes of Dexter beef.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,033 ✭✭✭Deeec


    Years ago every butcher had their own slaughter house and was killing themselves - this isnt allowed anymore. The meat you are getting in the butchers is coming from exactly the same place as the meat in supermarkets.

    My dad is a farmer - all animals are now sold to a meat factory, none are sold to a butcher.

    I buy from both supermarkets and butchers - I wouldnt say the meat I get in the butchers is any better than the supermarket. Both quality and taste wise are sometimes good and both are sometimes bad!

    I will say its better to support local butcher shops rather than supermarkets though but I cant always say the quality is better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭Sigma101


    Any butcher can call themselves a craft butcher. It's not a protected term, nor is it an advanced qualification for butchers. A craft butcher is not a better butcher and not necessarily a more experienced butcher. It's mainly a term that independent butchers have adopted to differentiate themselves from the large supermarkets. However, several supermarkets, such as SuperValu, have their own in-house 'craft' butchers, while other independent butchers have branches located within large supermarkets.

    The Associated Craft Butchers of Ireland is a lobby group for independent butchers. Membership of the group means that you've paid your subscription fee, and nothing more.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭littlefeet


    I wouldn't consider it a craft butcher unless they are butchering at least part of a carcass in the shop and perhaps making their sausages and have cuts of meat you dont see in a supermarket, such as lap beef or breast of lamb.



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