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Sleep Apnoea and CPAP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭BlondeBomb


    I realise that this may have been answered 100’s of times already but would appreciate insight.

    I’m going to ask my Dr to refer me for a sleep study. Does anyone know where the best clinic is to do this? I think I’d prefer to stay in one that does them overnight rather than taking something home with me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭TheWonderLlama


    Galway (bons Secours private) and Dublin (St Vincents) do overnight. I have been to both.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,682 ✭✭✭wonga77


    Good luck, sounds promising. Where did you get it fitted?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,325 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    I've actually started getting a kip in some afternoons where and when I can just for like 20mins-half hour just to recharge batteries , but what is happening a lot of the time is that ive woken up to find a mouthful of saliva or choking with a mouthful of saliva, wondered what all this is about, googled it and it seems like its Obstructive sleep apnea - just hope it doesnt get worse, its a little bit frightening being woken up by choking and gasping for air!

    And yet after a nights sleep, waking up in morning my mouth is so dry that the first thing I have to do is have a couple of sips of a glass of water as soon as I wake up - sometimes wake up some mornings with my tongue stuck to the roof of my mouth my mouth is so dry!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,501 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Think of it as you’re hyperventilating, your breathing quickens up as it lacking air, that sucks your tongue back further in your throat closing off your airway even more. It's called loop gain when referring to sleep apnea.

    You’re not going to choke don’t worry but you do need something to prevent it. Those power naps are going to get worse to a point where you can just go unconscious, it’s a real danger when driving.
    You should be able to get seen pretty quick if you ring around a few consultants, my referral from the doctor was for about 6mts time in Kilkenny but I called the Galway Clinic and they had my initial consultation and 2 nights sleep test done in the hospital all in 2 weeks.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,501 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Beacon sleep dental, it’s been a bit of a mixed bag the 1st night was impressive, second night had a great long sleep but the blood oxygen wasn’t great (that’s my fault, beers). Last night again a good sleep but oxygen dipped a good bit from about 4am for a while. I wasn’t in any way lead to believe it would work fully straight away so not disappointed as there’s a lot more adjustments to be made the next one in 4 weeks, as it’s pulling the jaw down and out you can’t fully stretch those muscles straight away hence the gradual adjustments until your airway has enough clearance to not have the apneas.

    I’d say it’s taken me from severe sleep apnea to mild, hopefully the next adjustment gets me fully over the line. I need to contribute a bit and lose weight that will also help, less weight, less adjustment as you’ve naturally got more airway clearance. Plenty of skinny people in getting treatment though so it’s not driving everyone’s problems , it’s not helping in my case though.

    If someone is struggling with cpap or just starting out it’s worth contacting their office, found them brilliant on the phone, they really wanted to get a full picture of what was going on before booking a consultation, I sent them my sleep test from galway and got my doctor to refer me to them as I was struggling with cpap.
    I’m not endorsing them just yet but they’re worth a call with any sleep or snoring issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,325 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    if you have sleep apnoea and have to use a CPAP machine and already have a dry mouth at night do these machines not make your mouth even drier?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,501 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Your mouth is proably dry from you trying to suck in every bit of air possible. It's called Xerostomia the humidifer on the cpap can help but might not get rid of it entirely. Have a look at alternatives to cpap as there's a pretty high tolerance failure with it, there's things you can do right away like side sleeping, rasing your head with a pillow that might help a little while your waiting. I found a supplement called NAC very good for a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,325 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    thanks for that . I'm naturally a side sleeper (although wake up and night and in morning on back) got 2 pillows for my head , although they getting old and flat now. i shall have to try some of that NAC , looks interesting if it works.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,501 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Get the sleep test as soon as you can just to know what you’re dealing with, don’t think there’s any easy way to control it with small interventions, you’ll probably need the cpap to get started and recover from what’s happening at the moment, your body is under a lot of stress.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Just finalized my claim back including CPAP under the drugs payment scheme for the last 5 years. Cheque received this morning from HSE for just under €2600…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭FaganJr


    Do it every year myself, should be automatic at this stage, filling out forms, what is this 1990?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭waxmelts2000


    I’ve started doing this but I thought you had to it monthly , I’d prefer to do it yearly too, quick question did you get refunds on the mask also? Mine is €96 per month and now I’m using a memeory foam mask for €50 every 4/6 weeks, I did put in my previous month claim but didn’t receive a refund, I rang the helpline but the girl really hadn’t a clue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭FaganJr


    Pretty sure I did, but once I lodged the cheque I forgot to cross reference the invoices I sent in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,310 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I was told they were claimable up to 12 in the year, but I stopped using them before I needed to claim, so I can't be sure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Krombopulos Michael


    Hi all,

    I've been using CPAP for over 2 years now, and honestly I dont find much benefit. However I think the supplier that Im using is a little on the expensive side and was wondering do people normal stick with rentals, or buy the machine outright?

    Is there a list of good rental/purchase suppliers as google seems to just churn out the same few again and again.

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,310 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    What do you consider expensive? You do know you can claim anything over €80 a month from the drugs payment scheme?

    Do your readings indicate you have improved your apnoea rate, whether or not you feel benefit? I decided on my first attempt with cpap that it was not doing any good - that was before there was any feedback from the machine, so you were operating 'in the dark'. So I abandoned it for a number of years. Pretty much as a result I developed atrial fibrillation, which is a recognised connection. Its under control now, but caused serious issues and numerous ambulance a&e visits. Don't be too quick to give it up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Krombopulos Michael


    when I use the machine the app will show like 3 AHI(/h) and sometimes 0. I just still felt tired after using the machine.

    Ive used it on and off for the 2 years, but paying almost 120euro per month rental is starting to sting, and yes I claim back on DPS.

    Im still on the same mask since Apr 2023, and even though I contacted the supplier about a service/mask from their online portal, heard nothing back. This is why im looking at changing supplier or buying my own machine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,310 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Anything under around 5 or 6 is not usually considered SA. Its surprising you were recommended to use a CPAP with those sort of numbers. I would suggest you go back to your consulatant (not that I have much time for SA consultants) and discuss it with them. You are going to pay €80 for combined medication and CPAP equipment, but I find Resmed very good, the clinic near me is excellent (ie the nurse in the clinic) and the cost is less.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭DrFunkatron


    Hi all,

    Recently diagnosed with sleep apnea, got my machine earlier this week a Philips Dream station 2. Finding I'm waking multiple times through the night right now and as a result I'm as tired as usual if not worse.

    I'm guessing it's normal to have a period of discomfort with these yolks at the start.

    Is there any active online Irish groups for people with SA? Facebook or whatever?

    I'm aware of Apnea Board forums but looking for more Irish users as it's useful for machine rental, supplies, tips etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,310 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Stick with it, decide that you are going to make a success of it, be prepared for set backs and periods when it just doesn't make sense, try not to stress about it. I am not aware of any Irish sites, though that is not to say there are none.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,501 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Call beacon sleep dental, explain your situation on the phone, and get the sleep test results off your consultant and send them to them and see if you’re suitable.
    I’m still going through adjustments with them, my sleep is so much better than with the cpap, plenty of rem and deep sleep. CPAP I was waking up after a few hours and couldn’t get back to sleep, it was great at the start as I was so banjaxed but I’d view it now as a temporary solution, cpap doesn’t work for everyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,501 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    this is what I’m using at the moment, that lanky lefty, it’s worth watching his videos from sleep expo this year, he goes through a lot of the vendors…so there might be something else you spot…there’s another mad device seems cheaper and less bulky in one of his videos. Have a look at Vik Veer the ent surgeon on you tube he’s got some very good videos and is about to release a a pillow he’s designed himself. Dylan Petkus is also worth a watch, he’s got some useful tips.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,501 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    this might be of interest, 90 day satisfaction guarantee, thinks it’s only went on sale, I had read about the study and even bought a tens machine a few months ago to give it a try myself, my physio was going to help with the pad placement, didn’t realise they were going to release a product..

    https://zeussleeps.com/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭waxmelts2000


    Just following up on the refund of the mask

    I resent in the claim for the mask along with normal monthly meds and resmed rental

    Mask €50

    Resmed €96

    Monthly meds €84

    Total €230 ( one month total )


    I got a refund of €97, anyone know how they come up with this calculation please of the refund ( I had only been receiving €81 previous months before the extra price of the mask )



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭IrishHomer


    Im a male aged 56 years. I'm type 2 Diabetic and for over a decade I was complaining to my GP of chronic fatigue tiredness and he always told me to manage stress and Iearn relation techniques.

    6 months ago my younger cousin had a stroke he was a sleep apnea sufferer and his breathing night machine was broken and he was unable to source parts as ged taken it over from the USA.

    Last March he sadly passed away one night from a heart attack. Huge loss to me we were very close and now this has given me a wake up call.

    6 months ago Specsavers referred me to a eye specialist for dry eyes and the eye man quickly said I have a few eye conditions and he said it may be caused by SA. He also said I have every classic sign symptom of SA.

    He got my GP to book a SA consultation and I had that at Clane Private.. the doctor boked me an overnight test but he said even on the private it takes a minimum of 6 months.

    Im very frustrated waiting as I don't actually feel safe driving and working I'm chronic tired a every afternoon and everything and struggling a lot.

    I asked my insurance if I could speed it up and try for it in Southern Spain and they said they may cover but I'd need to source prices and doctors details.

    Has anyone here ever sourced the test everseas?

    I'm also very disappointed as I later googled my SA specialist and he gets very poor reviews. Disappointing as I've paid up from for his consultation and was a whopping €250 for a five minutes chat.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭LiamaDelta


    Could anyone tell me roughly the cost of the consultation and the overnight sleep test in one of the clinics. Looks like Galway/Vincents are the most popular, but I'd be interested to know anywhere. Need to convince the person that shares my bed to go for a test so I'm hoping it'll be managable for us. Thanks in advance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,310 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    It was about €350, probably gone up from that. My insurance was willing to pay 300 and the hospital said that they would not look for the difference, which says something about the way hospitals and insurance companies interact.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,325 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    Look what I shall be wearing in bed tonight!

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    Not bad going, only been waiting 2years after referral from local GP for a sleep study test at the local hospital!. Didn't even get so much as a peak Flow Meter test whilst I was there and was laughed at, and felt ridiculed when i asked should I have an ABG test done.






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