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Israel/Palestine Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,157 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    It explicitly shows how this can only be interpreted as a deliberate tactic to starve the population. There's no way to blame Hamas for the starvation.

    Bibi could ensure that there are no hungry children in gaza simply by allowing all the aid that's waiting outside to enter gaza. But he won't. He'll lie and lie and lie about how there's no starvation in Gaza whilst deliberately starving them.

    The whole world can see it with their own eyes. We see the footage. We see the statistics about how much food is let in. We can see how the lack of food leads to starving children.

    Bibi is evil. He's willing to let children die because either

    1. He wants them to die
    2. He wants the right wingers in his government to keep supporting him.
    3. All of the above.

    And it also means that every single statement since the beginning of the war about how Israel don't want to hurt civilians is complete bull. causing suffering for the civilian population is a primary goal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,862 ✭✭✭circadian


    Ben-Gvir at it again, raising tensions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭greyday


    Will Israeli citizens hold bibi to account for starving Israeli hostages?

    It’s common sense that when you deliberately stave the Palastinian population that a consequence is you starve Israeli hostages, blaming Palestinians for starving Israelis is perverse when it is Israel stopping food going in to Gaza.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,492 ✭✭✭Quandary


    He is a truly horrific individual alright. I place him and Smotrich in the same company as Goebbels and Himmler.

    Sadly, I think Bibi and his inner cirlce of his ultra nationalists will never see the inside of a cell.

     



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,701 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Victim blaming is a common theme with countries that are up to no good. Interesting that the regime's fans from outside are taking on all the propaganda talking points about the genocide and repeating them : "Hamas are to blame for everything", "Hamas are starving the population of Gaza" etc (as if the 60k deaths, displacement of 2m people and now widespread starvation is something that was 'forced' on Israel).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    All the evidence points to one goal only - the annexation of Gaza by Israel.

    Infrastructure destroyed - check

    Full military control - 88%

    Population cleansed - progressing well, concentration camp being constructed for final solution

    Rebuilding plans - in progress

    International community not getting directly involved - check



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,877 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,900 ✭✭✭dmcdona




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,877 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    No doubt the IDF admirers will be pleased with their shooting skills.

    Doctor accuses IDF of 'playing a game' in Gaza shootings

    Doctor accuses IDF of 'playing a game' in Gaza shootings

    A surgeon who has worked in Gaza has accused Israeli soldiers of "playing a game" when shooting people in Gaza, saying the pattern of gunshot injuries sustained was "almost like the Israeli soldiers were having target practice".

    Consultant gastrointestinal surgeon Nick Maynard said there was a clear pattern of a clustering of gunshot injuries to specific parts of the body on different days.

    Speaking on RTÉ's Morning Ireland, Professor Maynard said he would not have believed the pattern to be possible if he had not witnessed it himself.

    "One day we would see mainly gunshot wounds to the head and neck. Another day we would see gunshot wounds mainly to the abdomen or the chest.

    "Another day, the legs and even on one day, about 12 days ago, we saw four young teenage boys coming in, all of whom had been shot in the testicles," he said.

    Prof Maynard said said the clustering of injuries was so dramatic that it was "inconceivable that it was coincidental".

    "It seemed to us as if it was almost like the Israeli soldiers we're having target practice, playing a game," he said.

    ===

    Sick depraved cowards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,862 ✭✭✭circadian


    I'm hoping that he eventually uses all his runway and ends up in court in Israel to finally be offered up by an opposition government to the ICJ along with his cronies.

    If the state of Israel wants to get any kind of goodwill after this that would be the least they do.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,506 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crkznje8nz8o

    Kind of irritates me to see this big list of Israeli worthies asking the US to step in and put a stop to what their govt. is doing in their name. I mean I do agree of course…but…

    Israel have heavily weighted their support to a single side of US politics (Republicans) for a long time now IMO - since Bush II, so almost a generation. They have increasingly backed the extreme religious and right wing Republicans as well because they are most fervent in blind support of Israel, and are influenced by their hatred for Arabs and muslims. These extremists are ascendant in the party now, a major power in US politics, and Trump is their President.

    They did that because the Republicans in particular always gave them an almost completely free hand. There has been no pressure from the US on them to engage with Palestinians for a long time. They could carry on land grabbing as they wished, and pandering to the worst parts of their own politics, the settlers and religious nuts, without consequences.

    Now that's reached a nadir, and is coming to what was likely the inevitable and forseeable conclusion in monstrous policies of the current Israeli govt. they go and cry about how the US should "stop us" like a bold child etc. Utterly pathetic.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,820 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    No one is safe -

    "The Israeli occupation continues to detain 24 doctors from the Gaza Strip in extremely dire humanitarian conditions, a prisoners’ rights group has said. The Palestinian Center for Prisoners’ Advocacy said in a statement on Sunday that Israel has inflicted the most heinous, systematic and deliberate abuse against the detained doctors resulting in the deaths of doctors Adnan al-Barsh and Iyad al-Rantisi.

    The center called on the World Health Organization and the United Nations to work urgently and diligently to ensure the immediate release of Palestinian doctors from Israeli prisons. It noted that reports issued by the United Nations and human rights organisations, such as Physicians for Human Rights and Human Rights Watch, have documented the exposure of health workers to torture, violence, and psychological abuse during detention."

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250804-israel-detains-24-doctors-from-gaza-in-extremely-dire-conditions-rights-group-says/?fbclid=IwY2xjawL9hmBleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETBsUVUwOW5FcGladjVwZWFRAR5-Ahhi3Jb4nYniwfyCe1u5SoZGWg-AxQm_GvGpV7Q9dZDUtNERkrv_JPpiaw_aem_gRRJ2VFlI5bRJz-w_huWRQ



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭freebritney


    For all the people wondering why the Gazan's or Hamas would resort to the actions on October 7th, it's worth remembering they have tried the peaceful option in 2018 with the Great March of Return. That however ended with 1000's, yes 1000's of Gazan's shot by sniper fire as they approached the fences of the concentration camp. This wasn't indiscriminate machine gun fire, but aimed and targeted shooting of unarmed men, women, children, medics, journalists and people in wheel chairs. They specifically targeted the groin area of young men or the kneecaps. Remember, you cannot hate them enough.

    https://www.ohchr.org/en/hr-bodies/hrc/co-iopt/report2018-opt



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,685 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    An evil b**tard. How any reputable government could have this excuse for a human in it's cabinet just shows what it consists of.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,706 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Starmer should be in the Hague again, this time as the accused



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭brickster69


    “Wars begin when you want them to, but they don’t end when you ask them to.”- Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,610 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    America First, tho



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭brickster69


    “Wars begin when you want them to, but they don’t end when you ask them to.”- Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Sounds like the apartheid state is set to send troops into Gaza to fully occupy it. Decision set to be announced on Tuesday if true.

    “Wars begin when you want them to, but they don’t end when you ask them to.”- Niccolò Machiavelli



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,701 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Article appears to be correct. Netanyahu apparently told the IDF chief he should resign if has a problem with it.

    The **** is clearly out of control. What can the West do at this point….armed intervention in Gaza to get food to the population perhaps?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,610 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    148 (or so?) UN member states recognise PA as a fellow member state already.

    The US and NATO can't keep harping on about Russia having a veto at this stage



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,820 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Possibly the worst case scenario for the people of Gaza, given the brutality of the Israeli regime when they previously occupied it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,610 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Seems like kite flying. No way are they gonna announce that right now. They could have at any point before and faced less backlash.

    If I was a gamblin man, I'd say this is an invite for Trump to come in with a deal plan and get his stupid peace prize, while buying Bibi some more time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 527 ✭✭✭freebritney


    I don't think it is. They have have such a tight control on the US political system they know that there will never be a better time to commit their final solution than now. The absolute subservance to Israel by most politicians is starting to raise eyebrows even in America, the Speaker of the House Mike Johnson just hoped on a plane the minute Congress went on recess to take the obligarty cuck photo at the wailing wall. I suspect you will see the first anti AIPAC democrats running in the midterm elections. Trump just passed an order barring any state or city from receiving federal disaster support if they protest or boycott Israel. America First….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,610 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Trump is a hand puppet. His little sawdust brain is either gonna want to support Israel more, or outdo/match Obbamna Hussein in getting a peace prize.

    I wish they'd just give him the prize tbh, coz he might just **** off if he gets it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,068 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Well given they are all encapsulated in this conflict, no, I would not say that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,862 ✭✭✭circadian


    Absolutely disgusting commentary. If this is a true reflection then as a society, they have a long way to go to get back to what would be considered normal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,701 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Report from ITN News on the physical destruction of Gaza strongly hinting at genocide and war crimes. This type of reportage and commentary would have been unthinkable a few months ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    Complete and utter destruction of an entire land and way of life for a people. It's revolting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    It's outrageous what is being allowed to to happen in Gaza.

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