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Ride quality of Boeing 737 vs airbus a320

  • 26-07-2025 09:11AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭


    I have flown quite a lot on both the A320 and B737. I have come to the conclusion that the B737 is more susceptible to turbulence and harder landings? I often hear of people say Ryanair shoot their planes down but I don’t think it’s the pilots at fault. The B737 is lower to the ground than the A320 and this must be a factor when it comes to landings also. Anyone else agree/disagree



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    Yep, it's basically just the short gear and I believe a slightly higher landing speed.

    As for turbulence, I think it's close enough to equal but the cabin fixtures on the A320 family tends to feel of higher standard and more secure, there's definitely a lot less rattling of lockers, side panels and walls. This additional noise can make turbulence appear worse than it actually is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭youtheman


    Ryanair are instructed and taught to land the aircraft 'the Boeing way'. A close relative of mine is a Ryanair LTC/IRE/TRE and he says that cadets are taught to 'look down towards the end of the runway, not just over the nose' as they come over the threshold. This eliminates their tendency to want to 'round out' and flare the aircraft. I was sitting beside him when were were landing recently on an Aer Lingus flight. I thought nothing of the landing and he turned to me and said "we'd fail him on his line training if he landed like that". I asked him to explain, and again he pointed out the 'rounding out' and flaring just before touchdown. Some airlines do it, maybe most, but not Ryanair. And they didn't just decide to adopt this SOP 'willy nilly'. It comes directly from Boeing.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭EchoIndia




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,443 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Isn’t it true that the name Boeing was inspired by the ‘boing boing boing’ sound the aircraft makes when bouncing into the runway though?



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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Not to disrespect your relative, but his comment was stupid. He can't fail the line checkee for following the SOPs of the airlien he works for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,470 ✭✭✭youtheman


    You missed the point. He said that If the Aer Lingus pilot was in a Ryanair aircraft and landed the Aer Lingus way, he'd fail the line check. But obviously he'd have to do it the Ryanair way if he was employed by them. He was just trying to highlight the difference in the landing techniques between the two airlines. And I have to take his word seeing that he has over 20,000 hours experience!.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,394 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Yeah that’s fair, I’d imagine it’s also a very different aircraft to land, as you say Ryanair operates to Boeing recommendations, you wouldn’t be landing an airbus to that!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭JohnC.


    More like inspired by it's founder, William Boeing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,753 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    That's a bit like saying the rules of the road say an emergency stop in a car is the quickest (safest) way to stop then get all Dublin buses to stop like that.



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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 18,180 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    There's no huge difference imho between the 737 and A320 in the air.

    The biggest difference I've noticed is noise reduction in the newer NEO and Max aircraft.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,039 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The 737 is a 60 year old aircraft with inferior aerodynamics (among other things).

    Should have been replaced with a brand new airframe 20 years ago, but the McDonnell accountants (who wrecked Douglas, then moved on to wreck Boeing) thought it better to sweat the assets.

    The landing speed of the 737 is too high. The landing gear is too short and can't be fixed. The cockpit is noisy (due to DC-3 type windows) and has horrible ergonomics but this can't be fixed because Boeing want to keep all 737 pilots on the same type rating.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,919 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    dozens of flights across both over the years. Always found the A320 to be more stable, more comfortable in every stage of flight… takeoff, climb out, cruise, descent and landing…

    Unless on easyJet perhaps….then…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    Flew on a 3 year old MAX into Cork late last week, flight was smooth and noise levels low but the interior was shaky and rattled a fair amount as I mentioned before. It was also incredibly worn, air nozzle was broken, cabin hot and stuffy, vents black with dirt and carpets worn away. The seat belts were frayed and actually difficult to adjust as they kept getting caught.

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    Smooth touch down at Cork, not quite Aer Lingus butter but noticeably softer than the NG.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 97,710 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    They had a brand new airframe 40 years ago. But it had the newer 767 cockpit.

    Boeing could have re-engined the 757 with smaller engines and maybe a shorter fuselage. Instead they've lengthened the 737.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,631 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    A320 is no spring chicken but it was a clean sheet mid 1980's design

    The 737 is really a 707 with 2 engines so its late 1950's piece of engineering, robust but not as refined as the A320 with its fly by wire magic which does deliver a smoother ride.

    I've flown on weeks old 737 MAX and was horrified by the noise levels (737 still doesn't have landing gear doors), the interior rattled. In comparison flying for the first time on 4 year old EI A321LR was amazed at how quiet it was



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,039 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    757 empty weight is a lot more than a comparable 737 though, and I think that's structural not just the larger engines.

    Now that you can go transatlantic on a 737 or 321LR, that's obviously going to be a lot cheaper to operate than the 757 was. Fuel consumption is a lot less. A downsized 757 would be even less competitive on the shorter routes which is what most 737s/A320s spend their time doing.

    I do find it a bit funny though that people got used to widebodies and some now complain about flying single-aisle across the Atlantic - back in the 60s you'd have been doing that on a 707 or DC-8, same six seats across in the same cabin width, and paying in real terms multiples of what you pay today

    Was gobsmacked the other day when I saw a pic of a SEVEN-seats-across Channel Airways Trident! 😧

    Channel-Airways-Trident-1E-140-Seven-Abreast-Cabin-Seating.jpg

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    The "bring back the 757" debate is a favourite topic on at least one major online aviation forum, but no one has ever tabled a convincing argument that it should be brought back in a revamped form. It's a great aircraft to watch and has very good field performance, but there are very few 757 missions that can't be performed much more efficiently by other, more modern, types these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭kevinandrew


    My return flight last night was on an Aer Lingus A320neo, it was night and day compared to the Ryanair 737 MAX I experienced a few days earlier.

    While the basics are the same, it's a slimline seat in a 3-3 config on a narrowbody, the overall appearance of the cabin, the sound levels of the aircraft and quality of materials and fixtures is far superior on the Airbus.

    In flight, very little difference in ride quality, both very smooth. Landings were similar, A320 slightly softer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,793 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    I would suppose that if you're not flaring then there would be more wear and tear on the landing gear? - resulting in higher maintenance cost for Ryanair?



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