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Seeking advise on upgrade to mini pc / nuc as current device going out of support because of Win10

  • 01-08-2025 03:18PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭


    Hi all,

    I’m currently using a Windows 10 desktop with the following specs:

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570KRAM: 16 GB

    Usage: No gaming. I mainly use it for working from home (remote desktop to office), general productivity (Word, Excel, PowerPoint), internet browsing, and watching 1080p videos.

    The machine has been serving me well and I have no complaints about its performance. If it weren’t for the fact that Windows 11 isn’t supported on this hardware, I wouldn’t even be thinking about upgrading.

    That said, I’ve started looking at mini PCs on Amazon, especially some models in the €200-€250 range. It seems that many of them should have similar performance (e.g., Intel N150). I'm wondering

    Would a mini PC at that price point offer comparable performance for my needs?Are there any models you would recommend that support dual monitor output and are reliable for this kind of workload?Also, how do these modern chips compare to my current i5-3570K in real-world use (not gaming or heavy workloads)?

    Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

    Thanks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 584 ✭✭✭gibgodsman


    Windows 10 dropping support would have virtually no impact on your use case for your PC, everything your doing will still work no problem, you could use windows 7 and still do everything your doing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭razor12345


    Should I be concerned with about security as I work from home, I wondering if my employer will mandate a 'secure' device and that a win10 device would not be considered secure when out of support



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 584 ✭✭✭gibgodsman


    Microsoft dropping their support won't suddenly make Windows 10 any more or less secure than it currently is. I haven't needed an Anti Virus, preety much ever and have never needed one, if you manage to get a virus via the tasks your saying your doing then Windows 11 is not going to make any difference to that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Coyler


    To answer your question, those mini PCs are fantastic. Got a few of them in a few places as Router/Tailscale/ADguard boxes but I've messed around with them and they won't break a sweat doing those above tasks. Was messing with one as a Steam Link (streaming games) for my 4K TV and it was solid. Minisforum and Beelink are the better brands but it's very hard to go completely wrong. A lot of bewildering choice as well in fairness.

    Also, Windows 10 support can be extended to 2026 easily enough with three options.

    • For individuals: An enrollment wizard will be available through notifications and in Settings, making it easy to enroll in ESU directly from your personal Windows 10 PC. Through the enrollment wizard, you’ll be able to choose from three options:
      • Use Windows Backup to sync your settings to the cloud—at no additional cost..
      • Redeem 1,000 Microsoft Rewards points—at no additional cost..
      • Pay $30 USD (local pricing may vary).

    So, unless you really need to upgrade, just kick out the support and get another year out of your system. After that it's really your call about how quickly you want to move to a newer version of Windows but the tide will start to go out and you will start to take on risk. You have to weigh up the risk yourself but if this is an income generating PC I'd be all in favour of removing unrequired risks. For example, Windows 7's end of life (EOL) was 2020 and lost Internet Browser support in 2023 on most major browers and was left with Firefox ESR support to 2025 (Firefox ESR is there but far from ideal). Losing Internet Browser support for me is where I lose my appetite for risk. For work machines it would be long before

    So assuming similar timelines a Windows 10 machine for me would be completely unsable in 2029. However depending on how much you need the income, that can get a lot closer to 2026.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,761 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    If it weren’t for the fact that Windows 11 isn’t supported on this hardware, I wouldn’t even be thinking about upgrading.

    But it will install and run perfectly well.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    OP

    Don't trash your current system just yet.

    Look for an app call Flyyoobe

    It overrides Microsoft checks to see if your existing setup is " eligible" for Microsoft that you can upgrade to Windows 11.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,003 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    I'm more surprised your employer is letting you use your personal machine for work.

    That's a huge PII red flag.

    Ask them to provide you with a secure machine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭razor12345


    Presume this is safe enought and doesnt come with malware etc?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭razor12345


    I use my existing device to remote into work via the browser



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭celtic_oz


    You current PC :

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    GMKtec M6 with 32GB of RAM and 1TB SSD is approx €320 HERE

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    Comes preinstalled with Windows 11 pro and use quarter the power.

    Free delivery which takes a week, make sure you choose uk plug.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,298 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    You can probably use Rufus to Install Win11. Worked fine on all my "unsupported PCs Though I haven't done it in a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭Coyler


    You can do it but it's not officially supported. You'd be swapping one unsupported OS for another. Granted the Windows 11 one will get security updates for the time being but at any time any update could break your OS when Microsoft decides it and doesn't need to give you any warning it coming.

    Again, if this is for work you need to stop entertaining what is technically possible and stick to what is supported.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,929 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    OP, would you be interested in giving Linux a try? Based on the usage you described it should all work quite seamlessly

    I know there's a perception of Linux being only for pro users, however I've been using Fedora for about a year now and it's much better and easier than Windows 11 (or 10) for a lot of things

    If you're around Dublin then there's an event run by the Dublin Linux Community where they'll install Linux on any PC that's out of support. Its on September 13th

    https://www.meetup.com/dublin-linux-community/events/305751148/

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,298 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    As it's for work he shouldn't be using any personal device.

    They've already let him use an old device that was going out of support. Bit late for being by book.

    But it's fair enough to say a new device isn't expensive, so why not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Boards_Member


    Linux might and will work if all access is web based. Have a go to ZorinOS or any distro that replicates WinX GUI.

    Upgrading to Win11 using any "tricks of the trade" will be shortly quick fast removed by MS with a simple update (see TPM within Win11 24H2 "hotfix")



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,298 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Quickly? Been running Win11 on unsupported hardware for a few years. But they are all clean installs no upgrades.

    At work MS cloud is a pain. You've hardly figured something out and they've already changed it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭Mav11


    Any VAT, duty or other customs issues with this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭celtic_oz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭tphase


    Linux almost certainly will work and costs nothing to try - it can be run from a live distribution to test it out. I'd say there is no real need to replicate the windoze GUI. Getting used to a Linux GUI is no more difficult than a new windows GUI. Last year, my wife's surface pro (only 4GB RAM, running Win7 I think) had become unusable. I installed Ubuntu on it and she's happy out, no particular issues and she's not at all techy. Her main use is similar to the OS, internet browsing and watching videos



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭razor12345




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭razor12345


    Quick question, does Windows 11 definitely come installed, I see it says supports Windows 11.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,761 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    Used it in a personal capacity on my 12 yo laptop.

    For techies really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭celtic_oz


    Yes as long as you choose ram and SSD and not bare bones

    I have bought more than 30 of these GMK tec pcs with no issues.. my daily driver is 2 years old.

    No extra charges the web price is what you pay



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭celtic_oz


    Pass mark

    Just Google passmark and the CPU

    Like "passmark i5-3570k"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Boards_Member


    is saying top right corner, a big NO Windows preinstalled for the barebone system...

    But,i feel there is no OS preinstalled at all as no mention of it unless there is an extra checkBox after you select the SDD option.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭celtic_oz


    Windows 11 pro comes pre installed on all unless you choose barebones like I said I've bought loads of them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,929 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Out of curiosity, have you tried installing Linux on those boxes and reusing the Windows keys elsewhere? Or is the key bonded to the hardware?

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,929 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Yeah I have to echo this sentiment, I found Fedora quite easy to get used to. I'd used Linux before but it was usually a RedHat server distro which either has no GUI or a basic one

    The desktop one is a lot more polished and easier to use

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭celtic_oz


    Key is tied to the hardware

    People have successfully installed proxmox for home lab environments on some variants like the M5 pro

    Look at the comments at the bottom of the pages

    https://www.gmktec.com/products/amd-ryzen-7-5700u-mini-pc-nucbox-m5-upgraded-version



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