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Israel/Palestine Thread

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    #48992
    SnazzyPig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭SnazzyPig


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123687069#Comment_123687069

    We also now have the justified reputation of being one of the most antisemitic countries in the world.

    This is a ridiculous claim.



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    #48993
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,015 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689755#Comment_123689755

    ridiculous claim

    Not only is it a ridiculous claim, it's an outright lie.



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    #48994
    2smiggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,258 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689755#Comment_123689755

    I think they have a group of simpletons in a whatsapp group deciding whos day it's to post pro isreali shite



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    #48995
    freebritney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭freebritney


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689726#Comment_123689726

    How is it impractical? In most cases the rightful Palestinian owners have the keys to the door and deeds for the land. It was only 80 years ago, the colonisers can just return to Ukraine, Poland or Brooklyn. It might be a bit messy and you might have to kill a few in the process, but hey, easy come easy go.



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    #48996
    2smiggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,258 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689774#Comment_123689774

    Brooklyn was promised to them 3000 years ago !!



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    #48997
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,048 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689520#Comment_123689520

    The 'Hamas should surrender' thing from the Zionist disciples is a bit baffling, especially as it is a political party / organisation with a military wing. Given that the military wing is an ad hoc militant resistance group, it would be nigh on impossible for them to 'surrender' to anyone…..even Hamas themselves are far from sure how many members they have or who exactly is in it, never mind anyone looking in from the outside.



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    #48998
    dmcdona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689431#Comment_123689431

    You're using that as an analogy? Good grief.

    Go read up on how the ICJ works before you embarrass yourself further.



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    #48999
    freebritney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭freebritney


    Sheepy you just need a bit of faith and we can overcome the logistics and moral issues on this matter. What would have happened if Theodor Herzl had taken your defeatist attitude only 128 years ago. If he had listended to the naysayers who said transporting a group of Eastern European religious fanatics to the Middle East and taking someone elses land would be a recipe for disaster then where would we be?



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    #49000
    dmcdona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689461#Comment_123689461

    hmm - this was pretty demonstrative. You even read the definition and stated your case. So nice try, but definitely not an opinion as posted but glad you've now cleared that up.

    I can equally saw that what is happening in Gaza is not, because it doesn't meet the legal definition.



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    #49001
    dmcdona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689563#Comment_123689563

    What? Are you serious? Were goalposts moved to validate a point/post. I'm shocked and stunned

    /s



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    #49002
    sheepysheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689774#Comment_123689774

    There isn't a town or village in Ireland that's the same as it was 75 years ago.

    The amount of change in Israel would be even more pronounced.

    This auld BS about still having the keys to a little house on the hill is nonsense. It's all long since gone. That's just the reality of it.



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    #49003
    sheepysheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689809#Comment_123689809

    I'm not stopping you. Off you go. Have at it. Bring a parasol!



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    #49004
    dmcdona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689615#Comment_123689615

    You've told some pretty big whoppers.



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    #49005
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689632#Comment_123689632

    Reputation among who? A group of pro genocide Zionists engaged in a concerted Hasbara smear campaign.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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    #49006
    sheepysheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689847#Comment_123689847

    Genocide. Zionist. Hasbara. You recite this stuff like your saying Hail Mary's.



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    #49007
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689726#Comment_123689726

    1948 is too long ago but 2000 years ago is just fine and dandy.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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    #49008
    sheepysheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 894 ✭✭✭sheepysheep


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689958#Comment_123689958

    There were plenty of Jews in Palestine in 1948 and every single year before that all the way back to the Romans and beyond.

    Some people just have trouble addmitting it.



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    #49009
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Stop engaging with Sheep and they'll move on to new pastures. Illegally in some cases



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    #49010
    Fr D Maugire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Fr D Maugire


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123690019#Comment_123690019

    This is comical. The Jewish population of what would become Palestine in 1850 was about 13k or about 3% of the population. That is a very strange definition of plenty. The Jewish Population of Palestine did not outnumbe the Christian population until the post WW1 influx of European Zionists.

    If Jews being in Palestine all the time is justification, surely the fact there has been Arabs in Israel all the time would justify them returning to take their lands as well. I mean fair is fair in the land of pretzel logic



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    #49011
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123690019#Comment_123690019

    You are not going to define “plenty” are you.

    There are twice as many black people living in Ireland as there were Jews living in Palestine in the early 20th century.
    I’m sure all the Zionist shills would be just fine with giving black Irish a new country on the island of Ireland.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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    #49012
    Vestiapx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Vestiapx


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123690159#Comment_123690159

    Can they have Tyrone :)



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    #49013
    Noworries!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭Noworries!


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689791#Comment_123689791

    Ah, I hear you, but then again, it begs the question of who represents, to concur with another poster, perhaps Fatah should effectively take control



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    #49014
    Lawlesz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Lawlesz


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689570#Comment_123689570

    I gave up too. The same poster accused me last night of justifying Hamas holding the hostages. Even quoted a section of my post and ignored the next paragraph that clearly called what Hamas are doing war crimes. When I replied with the entirety of my post… radio silence. No reply and off to misquote you for today. The pay must be good…



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    #49015
    Lawlesz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Lawlesz


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123689332#Comment_123689332

    Gaza is a teddy bears picnic compared to WWII.

    This is absolutely shameful. One of the most distasteful posts in the whole thread and that’s saying something. 60,000 dead and millions starving and you think “teddy bears picnic” is an apt analogy? Maybe those two little girls would have a different opinion on what a teddy bears picnic is.

    You’re either being deliberately inflammatory in how you choose to word things looking for a bite or you actually just don’t care.



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    #49016
    Frank Grimes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭Frank Grimes


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123690495#Comment_123690495

    I noticed that choice of language too. It's bad enough that he casually dismisses human rights abuses as par for the course in his posts but he seems to deliberately engage in trivialising the suffering of Palestinians. He established previously that all of this is ok though, if I recall correctly he moved to the US years ago and knows lots of Jewish people so apparently bigotry is ok.

    Post edited by Frank Grimes on


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    #49017
    dmcdona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Two interesting news items from Haaretz:

    Marjorie Taylor Greene, a far-right firebrand in the U.S. Congress, has called Israel's war in Gaza a genocide for the second time this week, a rare label within her caucus.

    Slovenia said it would ban all weapons trade with Israel over the war in Gaza, in what it said was a first by a member of the European Union.



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    #49018
    dmcdona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Another hard-hitting opinion piece:


    "Israel's diplomatic conduct in recent months, which has turned the country into a pariah, almost a rogue state, is the product of nearly Olympian-level charlatanism – a fatal mix of denial, whining, arrogance and self-justification – leading to the edge of the abyss.

    It's the easiest thing in the world to accuse Britain and France of being dragged by left-wing parliaments and their Muslim populations (in contrast to an Israeli prime minister who ignores the settler and nationalist base that's keeping him in power)."

    Yossi Verter



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    #49019
    dmcdona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    So it seems that Israelis are now fully aware that the tide is turning against them for the actions of its out-of-control Govt.


    "Israel, which was garnered considerable international sympathy after the massacre, and set out to attack Hamas from a clear sense of the justice of its cause, has completely lost direction – and has also lost international understanding along the way.

    This week's crop of developments is a cautionary tale: 

    France, Britain and Canada announced support for the establishment of a Palestinian state;

    27 Democratic senators voted for a bill that would prevent arms sales to Israel (70 senators voted against, but the number of supporters was unprecedented);

    and the European Union is talking about suspending Israel from the agreement that enables its citizens to enter EU countries without a visa."

    Amos Harel



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    #49020
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Just saw this on another website -

    ''Israel's top human rights organisations have now declared that Israel is committing Genocide.

    In a 70+page report, Physicians for Human Rights and BTsalem accused Israel of trying to eradicate Palestinian society.

    Israelis are telling us that this is a Genocide.

    Jews are telling us that this is a Genocide.

    It is time to stop calling this a '' Humanitarian Crises''.

    Call it what it is: A GENOCIDE.''



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    #49021
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,048 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123690643#Comment_123690643

    Editor of The Times of Israel called the regime a rogue state this week as well.



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