Hamas strike on Israel

Nothing has done more for the recognition of a Palestinian state than this genocide. 

No one, and nothing, has done more to prevent the recognition of a Palestinian state than Palestinians and their invariably terrorist leaders.

It's been on the cards as a possible entity every year since 1948, but each and every time they choose war.

There is a path to peace and nationhood on the table right now, but of course, naturally, one set of possible representatives are a bunch of Islamic Jihadist's in Gaza, and the other is the most despised politition in the ME , Sadass Abbas in the West Bank.

That's the difference between Genocide and an act of Genocide. You should know this by now.

Genocide is the intent. An Act of Genocide is effectively putting that into operation.

Oct 7th was an Act of Genocide. An act that was systematically planned, rehearsed, implemented and executed to deadly effect. A very specific set of demonstrated actions.

Israel was not created by UN mandate.

No I didn't.

I see a member of Hamas was convicted today for the killing of an Irish peacekeeper, I am not defending that either, are you?

Posting Hamas propaganda and getting sour when people point it out isn't a skill either.

The hostages were being released until Israel broke the ceasefire. If they hadn't broken the ceasefire, then all hostages would probably be released by now. So why did israel break the ceasefire?

Something else I can guess the answer to but hey, why not. Do you have an independent, objective source or sources that corroborate that claim? And just so there's no confusion, I am not talking about something the Israeli government has come out with.

I'm not arguing that the taking of the hostages or their continued detention was justified. I'm saying that the ongoing war crimes and genocide in Gaza and plans to ethnically cleanse the region of all Palestinians is a far, far bigger story.

Even the Israeli press are barely even mentioning the 25 hostages at this point - their media is full of stories about the war, relations with Trump, major countries recognising Palestine, accusations of genocide and deliberate starvation, Israel's global image taking an absolute hammering etc.

There is no equivalence between Hamas and the IDF, although it is a consistant tactic by some on here to draw parallels in order to delegitmise Israel.

The IDF are the Israeli Defence Forces. All israeli's do complusary military service. If you were an Isreali citizen you'd do it too, as would you parents, brothers and sisters and friends, as you would do here if Ireland had compulsary service.

The IDF is populated by ordinary people of every walk of life, all summoned to serve their country. Most of them would prefer to be back at home with their loved ones, continueing their studies, or getting on with their life and careers.

Hamas, on the other hand and an Islamic Jihadist terrorist organisation populated by people who volunteered to kill Jews wherever the opportunity presents. They volunteer to kill people.

I know plenty of people who joined the Irish armed forces and Gardai. Don't know ayone who joined the IRA, and would want nothing to do with them.

The parallell you draw is completly intwllectually dishonest.

UN resolution 181, no?

No. 181 was a general assembly resolution. I’m sure you could see that just now when you Googled it.

That graph doesn't surprise me.

I wouldn't expect many instances of antisemitic incidents in a country that is almost bereft of Jews in the first place. That might be a clue in itself.

If you want to see flagrant Irish antisemitism go on twitter, follow the personalities, read the dogwhistles, see the comments.

There are numerous posters on here who consistantly voice antisemitic opinions. The fact that they never insert the word Jew into their narratives, preferring to go with Zionist instead as a figleaf doesn't provide them with the cover they think it does.

No ceasefire is required to waffle on about it while people suffer. They can publically announce their intention to release the hostages, disarm and surrender tonight if they want.

A label given to Ireland by Netebastard's right-wing hysterical cheerleaders. It's a description of Ireland and its people that is neither accurate nor deserved. Criticism of Israel is not anti-semitism, full stop.

Sheepy - you have gone off the deep end.

An antisemite is somebody who hates Jewish people. It isn't somebody who Israel doesn't like because they are calling out their ethnic cleansing of their neighbors. If the world had listened to us a year ago - maybe all this death could have been averted.

Incidentally - I looked up the ADL surveys from 2014 and 2024

Ireland ranked around 21% of adults endorsing antisemitic stereotypes in early ADL surveys up 1% from 2014, putting it in the middle-to-lower range among surveyed countries.

In Europe, countries such as Greece (69%) and Russia (62%) displayed much higher levels, while Western European nations like the UK (8%), Netherlands (5%), and Sweden (4%) had lower rates.

Nothing to be proud of, but no, it is not amongst the most antisemetic countries in the world, and it certainly isn't justified for you to say it is at all.

Now obviously anger towards Israel is growing massively in Ireland, due to them carrying out genocide of their neighbors without any sanction - using absolute nonsense to justify it, and of course, tarring us all antisemites - without any merit, as you are doing. But anger towards Israels violence, at their nonsense and anger at being tarred antisemetic is NOT antisemetic. It is defense of Gazans, and self defence.

This genocide is happening. You can stick your fingers in your ears and shout about Hiroshima or Dresden all you want, you can point and call people whatever names you want, you are like a crazy person shouting at traffic, it won't change what this is.