Nurse suspended for objecting to a male doctor in changing room

Do you think it is just a complete coincidence she is a hate mongering racist transphobe?

Gee, what are the chances?

Dark humour in private is a thing. When it moves beyond private then you could say it's bigotry.

So racism isn't racism if it is a "private thing"?

You sure?

Dark humour in private is a thing. When it moves beyond private then you could say it's bigotry.

Sorry?

A person's character can only be judged on what they say in public? And if something said in private becomes public, then that's inadmissible?

As noted above, this woman may or may not be right about dressing rooms but she's an awful human being and the lengths people are going to defend her is incredible.

It's not misogyny to say that laughing at dead Pakistanis is not a great look. I'm genuinely dismayed at how many people condone this.

You keep saying that but then you also say that you do not know if the employment tribunal panel will take her views on other matters into account when adjudicating on the reasons for the tribunal. Why do you think the panel will take into account her other views?

Where did I say that?

She's getting a tribunal to have her rights defended, and getting an extremely public platform for her views in the process. Seems like her rights are just fine.

I'm just baffled at how blithely posters here - who presumably don't think of themselves as racist - can brush these things off.

I've been in a lot of work group chats in my career and never once have I said anything close to what she has, nor would I tolerate it from any co-worker.

Does it matter? That depends on your perspective. For me, it's hard to square all these comments with her preferred image of herself as a respectful colleague. That she can be so hateful in private but as soon as she clocks in, she's a different woman?

Has anyone seen Severance on Apple TV? Maybe NHS Fife has something similar in operation.

So if you think a person with questionable views still has equality and employment rights, what is the relevance of those views to the tribunal under discussion? Supporting a person in asserting their rights is not supporting the persons views on other matters, why do you say it is?

Racism! Where to start on the cherry-picking.. and the over emotional wringing of hands. Its brain withering..

Her Majesty’s Government is racist for starters, jet planes organised to fly brown people off to Rwanda.. Brexit won based on those nasty immigrant boats.. Farage running around like royalty. The majority of the country has xenophobia bred in the bone via popular culture, media and political polarisation re poor brown people are all evil, so let’s just hate them en masse. Decades of it! Kids raised on that stuff. Ireland is in close second.

So let’s be clear, no one who is a nasty racist is due any legal rights! That’s half the country and most of the politicians.. oh hell, even the Royal Family are at it.

But a working class Nurse is a racist? Goodness, I’m shocked! Who’d have thought it.. she being English ‘n’ all.

Most of us in the thread are here for Female Rights under the law.

Let me say it again for those of you at the back a bit hard of hearing.

This is about women’s rights.

All women’s rights.. even the racists ones.

Females witches too.. because we are not allow to burn those heretics at the stake anymore, so yeah.. their rights too. All the ugly horrible nasty bits of humanity if they are female, they have rights.

Just like the Trans folk who want to burn murder kill women written on placards. The Trans criminals and rapists, yep they all have rights too.

That’s how it works.

In what way exactly is Upton trans?

Yeah yeah all about anti-trans..

So why isn’t anyone b!tching about trans then? There is none going on in here, except the misogynists throwing around insults re: transphobia.

Always the weak comments: yeah but it’s transphobia with a huge leap over the real issues to get there.

A nurse’s legal right to a single sex safe place to undress. The right to ask and the right not to lose her job, livihood because of lies and manufactured accusations that are running into the criminal. She isn’t a criminal, but Upton and the NHS are by the evidence to date.