Israel/Palestine Thread

Ireland in 1995 was not like what the majority Arab world is today. In fact, Ireland has never been that conservative, puritan, and religious in its outlook. It's a glib nonsense remark.

There are a half dozen countries in the Middle East that have in their penal codes provisions that if a woman has an affair, they can be put to death. That is today in 2025. Ireland never had such a provision in its history.

There are many many other examples like the above, so the comparisons between Ireland and the Arab world bear no resemblance.

Generally migrants nowadays are not given their own state almost immediately or is that something you believe should happen, say an ethic/religious migrant population of a country in Europe grew to 20%, that entitles them to a state of their own? That is what you are suggesting here. I think even the most pro immigration advocate would not be on board with such an idea.

Facts: there was Jewish migration to the region before Zionism, but was limited and even in the early days of Zionism it was still relatively small, but the British promise of a Jewish homeland in Palestine through the Balfour Declaration of 1917 saw Jewish migration to the region explode after WW1. Less than 10% of the population just after WW1 to 32% in 1948, that is clearly not a natural migration pattern. Of course the Arabs had no say in any other this, even though it was known they were opposed to the whole Zionist project(King-Crane 1920) Commission which Brickster missed out. It was a planned migration to create a new state.

As for trying to equate the Arabs and Nazis in starting a war, that is the height of ridiculousness. The Germans tried to conquer most of Europe, killed millions and tried to wipe out an entire religious group in Europe. The Arabs tried to prevent the partition of their lands having been ignored for 30 years politically. Not even in the same ball park.

You are always so truthful Blanch.
When you say “Women aren't allowed drive in many of those countries.”

Could you list these many countries please?

Not how I see it Banche

I see it that you are quite happy to leave 2 million starving Gazans in the hands of a genocidal regime who has been committing innumerable warcrimes on them over the last two years, who openly talks of their complete destruction after the last stumbling block (and the only thing Israeli society cares about - the only thing keeping Netenyahu out of prison) - i.e the hostages, has been removed.

Oh and on top of that monstrous attitude, you claim moral superiority.

Answer my question:

Should Hamas release the hostages unconditionally, if it means Israel slaughters the people in Gaza for doing it?

Show me where I claimed Germans were compensated for losing their land after WW2. You can’t? What a surprise, Marko making things up 🙄

You are building strawmen on top of toppled strawmen.

Israel also denied the Lavron Affair. You know, their false flag bombing campaign, even after extensive investigations and enquiries. Finally coming clean in 2005. An Israeli denial of responsibility or after an investigation exonerating them is not proof of innocence.

They lie and they lie and they lie…

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3IMLYFnF4e4

Hmmm…Israel has thousands of Palestinian hostages, some of them are minors in their early teens.

Is that a war crime too, or is it ok if Israel does it.

To be expected.

Of course.

And nobody is even remotely surprised when a known spoofer comes on and spouts off a load of vague bullshit, then disappears when a couple of uncomfortable realities are brought up.

As we all knew. You simply made up the “fact” that many Muslim countries don’t allow women to drive.

I'm asking to look at what has been happening on this conflict, the appalling killings and the frightening plans told to us again and again by those in power in Israel, to look at the extremism and radicalization that has clearly taken hold in almost all facets of Israeli society. This stuff is not just leaking out now, it is an avalanche and it's not coming from Hamas or Israel's enemies, it's from within Israel, from the US, from Jewish people all over the world.

Not to mention, you havent acknowledged that most of the things you said wouldn't happen, have happened.

And all you have is "trust 'em lad". War criminals. I won't even be going to go into what pie on the sky notions you have if you have to start bringing up the emperor of fekin Japan as justification.

Whether you think it's nonsense or not - why can't you answer it? It is hypothetical - but it will ascertain whether you actually could care less what happens to all those people.

Should Hamas release the hostages unconditionally, if it means Israel slaughters the people in Gaza for doing it?