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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭bog master


    The Grifter in Chief carries on:

    https://us.cnn.com/2025/07/27/business/trump-scotland-business-crypto

    The president has already made millions from his family’s cryptocurrency ventures, foreign investments,private clubs and the sale of a host of Trump-branded products, according to his latest financial disclosure documents.

    Trump made more than $1.3 million from Lee Greenwood’s “God Bless the USA” Bible, $2.5 million from Trump sneakers and fragrances, $2.8 million selling “Trump Watches,” and more than $1 million on a “45” guitar, a popular moniker referring to his first term as the 45th president

    And then there’s TrumpMobile, a wireless service with monthly plans and a $499 smartphone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,568 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    And yet MAGA, who were outraged at Hunter allegedly using his dad to get money for access, see absolutely no problem with Trump shamelessly milking the office for as much as he can...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,150 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The actual headline in the Irish Times says:

    EU-US deal good for Ireland as it averts trade war for now and gives businesses vital sense of certainty
    Ireland relies heavily on US investment and stood to be exposed if talks went badly

    And the details:

    In the wider picture, Trump is building in baseline tariffs of 15 per cent for many countries, with his key goal being to raise revenue for the US exchequer. But this will hit those who rely on imports into the US, too, affecting businesses and consumers and pushing up inflation.That is the price of tariffs. For now, though, Trump is happy for the US to pay it.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/2025/07/27/eu-us-deal-good-for-ireland-as-it-averts-trade-war-for-now-and-gives-businesses-vital-sense-of-certainty/

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    Well well!! Ursula von der leyen has certainly handed Trump one of the biggest wins of his presidency imo. A disastrous deal for the EU.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,400 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    Sorry Donal o donovan in the independent. You have a point but if the EU was willing to take short term pain trump may have backtracked more.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭Economics101


    You seem very ready to gloat at von der Leyen, but you might suggest a better course of action from the EU. And enough of saying this is a win for Trump: its a bit like saying that if I mug someone and get €1000 from their wallet, it's a "win" for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    I'm sure she was well briefed on what to give the felon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭twinytwo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Could of been worse, she could of called Trump Daddy

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    One positive is that exposes which commentators are as thick as planks

    We are heading into situation where Americans are made to pay new Trump tax and likes of China get excluded leaving EU and Japan compete on the minimum 15% baseline



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,150 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Makes an absolute mockery of some of the nonsense posted to the forum about how this and pulling support from Ukraine was all some 4d chess game to focus on the China threat. That aged well.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    If all Trump wanted was the headlines and another deal done, and he then walks away and turns his attention elsewhere, then he has that in the bag -it then gives the EU time to plan alternative markets as well as negotiate the fine details.

    But- the pharma battle hasn’t even started yet- there are tougher times to come



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,130 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    For sure, it's a short term political win for Trump.

    The whole thing is nowhere close to being finalised though, and it stops any immediate trade war ramp up of tariffs so that is a positive. Nobody knows what is going to happen past the midterms - if the Democrats regain control of the House at least they may more aggressively go after Trump's deeply questionable ability to enforce these tariffs anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


     “- if the Democrats regain control of the House at least they may more aggressively go after Trump's deeply questionable ability to enforce these tariffs anyway.”

    While we live in hope, I’m not convinced the democrats will be quite so lucky- America is becoming acclimatised to treating immigrants like animals- the queues at the border are way down; news like this “trade win” will be no bad thing for sitting republicans. Yes “it’s the economy stupid” still stands- but we’re a bit away yet and anyway, MAGA have laid the groundwork for that with their “shortterm pain” announcements at the last election.

    On immigration alone, I think MAGA have cornered the voter market - Democrats are seen as weak right now- I can’t see a major switch at this point



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,348 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    The people who funded his campaigns thought and think otherwise, even if it's only to ensure a person from the other party doesn't get elected (regardless of their debatable capabilities).

    Not many candidate elected to the office have throw as many strops as Trump has. In that way he definitely gets the award for the biggest president ever for the U.S.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,725 ✭✭✭yagan


    There's also economic induced homelessness that will affect more the US middle-class, especially as tariffs costs erode household budgets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    There seems to be confusion on pharma. Prior to the announcement Trump said pharma won't be apart of it, it will be treated differently, but after the announcement a senior US official said that pharma were part of the 15%.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,318 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Trade agreements are not made in the course of a brief conversation between golf rounds. This is - as I understand it - just a vague outline agreement which has to be formally agreed. Presumably the US can start taking taxes from importers any time they want, but all the international implications have to be worked out, this does not matter to Trump, he is totally about his instant gratification and the camera moment that will stay with his followers.

    In addition to the added trade friction, the EU has also promised to import more energy – spending $250 billion a year on American oil and gas – and could invest some $600 billion stateside. That, at least, is Trump’s interpretation of the deal. It’s unclear whether these figures represent incremental amounts, or what time frame the president had in mind. Fuzzy as they are, these EU pledges at least do not look very binding.

    https://www.reuters.com/commentary/breakingviews/eus-lopsided-trump-trade-deal-will-be-short-lived-2025-07-27/

    I don't claim that I begin to understand international trade, any more than Trump does, I do know though that it takes more than a quick conversation to achieve anything binding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,504 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    If you take it at face value sure Trump got something but go any deeper and its plain to see this benefits the US in no way whatsoever. Firstly 15% is not anywhere close enough to pull US businesses back to manufacturing in the US so Europe keeps all its jobs, secondly the US public simply continue paying more as all tariffs are is a tax on consumers. Thirdly he is pissing off everyone with his behaviour and bit by bit everyone is doing deals with each other that will mean the US is no longer the center of global commerce.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    The EU are very detail oriented, we seen it with Brexit when they ran circles around the UK

    Expect months of drip feed of concrete details (as there are none as literally all that is signed is hot air)

    These guys are even more stupid and desperate for headlines to distract from peado Trump revelations



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,423 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    id say large global corporations will be the real winners, and of course their main share holders, i.e. trump and his mates!



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,130 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    It won't take a major shift. The Republicans have a barely functioning razor thin margin in the House today. That's why they are completely incapable of legislating anything - they have put all their efforts into just about edging the omnibus bill over the line but can't get anything else done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Tariffs hit US consumers in their pockets- with no new manufacturing jobs created in the short term in the US, this deal has no benefit to ordinary Americans - it’s a very peculiar “victory”- will the known and unknown negatives of this deal outweigh any positives? I think it’s likely they will



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,560 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    The problem is his idiot army will be conditioned to see all of this as some sort of genius win. Trump may get to have a wank thinking he's pulled off a great "deal", but nothing is really changing for the EU as a whole and, as you say, no company is going to be packing their bags and heading back to the States based on this nonsense.

    So the biggest loser in all of this is the American consumer who now has to pay an extra "import tax" on goods that come into their country. Goods for which there's often no other choice to choose from because they don't produce it themselves.

    There may be a lot of "we cannot build bananas in America" moments coming for a lot of Yanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,318 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    So Trump continues to make a shambles of the US until the mid-terms, then logically (or possibly intuitively) everyone except the Magas hopes for the Dems to take over the government. Is this the best solution though?

    Some of his more invasive notions only come into effect after the mid-terms, so of course the consequenses of Trumps dictats will be easy to blame on the Democrats. And he is still there, operating independently and doing whatever he wants. The more time passes the more his lies and chaos become normalised.

    If the Reps stay in control the situation will continue to get worse and will be a bigger mess for the next incoming POTUS to clean up. It may be more definitive though and puncture the Maga movement.

    Could a continued Trump/Republican rule lead to civil war, a coup? Or will they just drift down into oblivion with the rest of the world working round them? If Trump dies would that improve the situation - I suspect that if it would be an improvement he would be dead by now, but everyone can see the Vance, Johnson back-up and they don't appear to be any better. How long will it take for him to be declared incompetent/senile/whatever? I don't see it happening any time soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,348 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I'm waiting to see the colour of the 55 Billion U.S. dollar cheque Bessent and Trump say the Japanese Govt gave them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Tariffs impose losses on Producers (expoeters) and consumers (importers): to what extent the costs are passed froward or backward is a matter of detail. How can global corporations be the gainers from tariffs which upset their investment strategies? As for their shareholders, they are not just Trump and his mates. What about the trillions in retirement accounts, pension funds and so forth?

    The US-EU "deal" is really a damage-limitation exercise against the depredations of the orange buffoon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,212 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr




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    Can we see the full video? I’m fairly sure I know Trump well enough to say he didn’t take the shot from there when he recognised it wasn’t his ball.



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