Donald Trump the Megathread part II

If Obama or Clinton did something like that, they would be hounded out of office. Jesus Christ, how low can this guy go. Cheating at golf. As if anybody gave two craps about the score in the first place. He's like Baron Bomburst, ruler of the land of Vulgaria in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

Also on the tariffs, von der Leyen should have today announced 200% tariffs on US products into the EU including Boeing aircraft instead of sheepishly accepting 15% in the opposite direction. Bloody hell, where's her backbone? Where are our leaders when they are needed?

If the whole world ignored his tariff bull$hit from the very start, he would be crying into his scotch broth now as we speak.

First post on trump here i meet Americans out and about if dems they are apologetic and ashamed if reps don't want to talk.

Political system has collapsed both houses are neutralised and all agencies for checks and balances are decommissioned

As for the felon he's doing what a felon does rob and lie with no one to rain him in his health will get better of him

Vance is pres in waiting who is controlled by some who will be intelligent and far worse to name 1 Peter Theil he will use Vance like a puppet

He also has silenced the media in 2016 he paid off a pornstar to keep quite so he could win an election then all his bankruptcies and the university scam he was always a sueing crook.

lets not forget this is only a framework agreement and not a trade deal. a lot of negotiating still to be done and much of what was announced may evaporate into the ether.

the eu in my view made a strategic decision to give trump the victory yesterday knowing full well that once the details get hammered out they will be able to leverage certain aspects in their favour. let him win the PR battle but lose the war.

the deal when agreed will need to ratified by eu member states. what i would like to know is what will happen in the meantime i.e. will the 10% remain in place or will we temporally go back to what it was before the trade war.

do not be surprised if trump is not in office when this trade deal gets inked. its a slow and painful process.

Don't think any ranked as hugely controversial. He did pardon his son and the likes of Fauci but that was largely because Trump was expected to target anyone who was viewed as political enemies. Meanwhile Ghislaine Maxwell was instrumental to Epstein's sexual abuse and there now seems to be a genuine possibility that he pardons her.

And yet MAGA, who were outraged at Hunter allegedly using his dad to get money for access, see absolutely no problem with Trump shamelessly milking the office for as much as he can...

Well well!! Ursula von der leyen has certainly handed Trump one of the biggest wins of his presidency imo. A disastrous deal for the EU.

You seem very ready to gloat at von der Leyen, but you might suggest a better course of action from the EU. And enough of saying this is a win for Trump: its a bit like saying that if I mug someone and get €1000 from their wallet, it's a "win" for me.

Except this isn't actually a deal…..

One positive is that exposes which commentators are as thick as planks

We are heading into situation where Americans are made to pay new Trump tax and likes of China get excluded leaving EU and Japan compete on the minimum 15% baseline

If all Trump wanted was the headlines and another deal done, and he then walks away and turns his attention elsewhere, then he has that in the bag -it then gives the EU time to plan alternative markets as well as negotiate the fine details.

But- the pharma battle hasn’t even started yet- there are tougher times to come

 “- if the Democrats regain control of the House at least they may more aggressively go after Trump's deeply questionable ability to enforce these tariffs anyway.”

While we live in hope, I’m not convinced the democrats will be quite so lucky- America is becoming acclimatised to treating immigrants like animals- the queues at the border are way down; news like this “trade win” will be no bad thing for sitting republicans. Yes “it’s the economy stupid” still stands- but we’re a bit away yet and anyway, MAGA have laid the groundwork for that with their “shortterm pain” announcements at the last election.

On immigration alone, I think MAGA have cornered the voter market - Democrats are seen as weak right now- I can’t see a major switch at this point

There's also economic induced homelessness that will affect more the US middle-class, especially as tariffs costs erode household budgets.