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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Christ, you’ve named 2 people who donated to him, are you not able to comprehend what you are even trying to say???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,623 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    This is such a sad and pathetic thing to read. Yes, POTUS holds a lot of power; but that power depends almost entirely on others.

    Do you realise that?

    Do you even see the 'power' he is losing every day, with every decision he makes?. With every toilet tweet he makes?. With every word he says that can be interpretated as defending a child sex trafficker?

    Do you and your fellow die-hards even want to acknowledge that Trump has been involved in child beauty pageants while a close friend of Epstein?

    CHILD BEAUTY PEAGENTS

    Just think about it for a second



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Yeah pretty much that. On the energy side, it could be closer to an extra 50 billion a year over the next 10 years as the US LNG infrastructure comes online, they will still be competing with Canada though. I've no problem with EU countries choosing the US & Canada over Russia for gas.

    There's only so much the EU can agree to in a 'deal' before it's classed as a trade deal, which will require unanimous support among EU countries vs an agreement solely on tariffs which the council can approve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    This thread is nearly unreadable. Two or three just arguing with each other every day,and repeating the same stuff day in day out. Great stuff for the mental health I'd say!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Post edited by Frank Bullitt on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭scottser


    More to the point, POTUS is supposed to be kept in check by Congress, the courts and the constitution. Trump ruling by EO and bypassing any form of oversight is leaning heavily toward authoritarianism and his cheerleaders are only too happy to see everyone's rights sold off to profit and protect the elites. Mr Anarchy should change his name to Mr Fascist; it would suit him better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,421 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    You are right, its not good for the mental health.

    I must be mad, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

    Thats my cue to take a break, and let it return to the echo chamber people want it so badly to be.

    When I return,it will be exactly the same as it always is though, people who just want to shitpost about Trump and attack and abuse anyone of a differing opinion.

    The sad thing is these people are guilty of exactly the same faults they accuse Trump of having, such hypocrisy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,768 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Will you still claim to not be a Trump supporter when you are back?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 111 ✭✭Mywifetoldme


    It took me a long time to realise that a lot of people are stupid.

    I have looked at a lot of things happening down though the years and tried to get my head around what is happening, and be unable to understand what is happening.

    Just go for a drive in your car and see how many idiots you will meet.

    We all do stupid things at times, but most of us are not in positions of power.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,560 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    It's genuinely sad to see someone continually rush to the defence of a piece of shite like Donald Trump. A creature who wouldn't even piss on them if they were on fire, and then go on to complain about "echo chambers" when their gibberish is dismantled before their very eyes.

    A break might, indeed, be a good idea for someone who feels compelled to engage in such fruitless white knighting.

    Maybe a long one.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,546 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Do you and your fellow die-hards even want to acknowledge that Trump has been involved in child beauty pageants while a close friend of Epstein?

    CHILD BEAUTY PEAGENTS

    Just think about it for a second

    MAGA fans are ok with him being a rapist who is, in all likelihood, also a paedophile. It clearly is not an issue for them.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,818 ✭✭✭maebee


    Feck, feck feck. I rarely post and I spent the last hour composing a Tome, clicked "Post Comment" but it didn't 😭. WiFi crashed bla, blah.

    Is there any way to recover it from my phone? Does anyone know? My phone is a Nokia 5.3

    Obviously I didn't manually save it, as this never happened to me before 😭

    Thanks in advance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,623 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Thanks for announcing you are taking a break.

    It's a shame you also announced you will be returning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    See you in a few weeks where you'll be arguing the merits of Trump pardoning Maxwell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,421 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I don't think he will pardon her.

    Im guessing the markets will rally tomorrow on the back of the EU deal, they are already at an all time high.

    It may not be pretty, he may be a boor, he may have no class, but he is effective in alot of areas.

    Not golf though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    But I'm sure you'll have an excuse if he does.… He also has a long history of pardoning pretty terrible people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭accensi0n




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭InAtFullBack


    Joe's pardon list wasn't his finest hour, was it? Then again - he probably thought he was signing a T-Shirt or something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,049 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    If Obama or Clinton did something like that, they would be hounded out of office. Jesus Christ, how low can this guy go. Cheating at golf. As if anybody gave two craps about the score in the first place. He's like Baron Bomburst, ruler of the land of Vulgaria in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

    Also on the tariffs, von der Leyen should have today announced 200% tariffs on US products into the EU including Boeing aircraft instead of sheepishly accepting 15% in the opposite direction. Bloody hell, where's her backbone? Where are our leaders when they are needed?

    If the whole world ignored his tariff bull$hit from the very start, he would be crying into his scotch broth now as we speak.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,104 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    The presidential pardon shouldn't be a thing, a crime is a crime. The one that really pissed me off was that Navy SEAL who was pardoned after being convicted of war crimes despite objections from the Secretary of the Navy and his own team. Guy had killed children for fun.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭somenergy


    First post on trump here i meet Americans out and about if dems they are apologetic and ashamed if reps don't want to talk.

    Political system has collapsed both houses are neutralised and all agencies for checks and balances are decommissioned

    As for the felon he's doing what a felon does rob and lie with no one to rain him in his health will get better of him

    Vance is pres in waiting who is controlled by some who will be intelligent and far worse to name 1 Peter Theil he will use Vance like a puppet

    He also has silenced the media in 2016 he paid off a pornstar to keep quite so he could win an election then all his bankruptcies and the university scam he was always a sueing crook.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭cunnifferous


    The EU should have taken some short term pain here imo. These tariffs will become normalised and there is no guarantee the next incumbent of the white house, democrat or republican will wind these back. Indeed this tariff imbalance will just be the new level point in which future deals will be negotiated. The only argument for this deal is that it buys the EU time to diversify away from the US but I don't see the impetus behind that either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    China are the massive winners in this tariff war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,400 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    Yes the Germans and their autos weren't willing to take short term pain. Trump got what he wanted by just being a bully. So much for the negotiating skills of the EU. They have got nothing from this deal, just give give give as per any article this morning. Nearly all have said that this is poor deal for the EU.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    lets not forget this is only a framework agreement and not a trade deal. a lot of negotiating still to be done and much of what was announced may evaporate into the ether.

    the eu in my view made a strategic decision to give trump the victory yesterday knowing full well that once the details get hammered out they will be able to leverage certain aspects in their favour. let him win the PR battle but lose the war.

    the deal when agreed will need to ratified by eu member states. what i would like to know is what will happen in the meantime i.e. will the 10% remain in place or will we temporally go back to what it was before the trade war.

    do not be surprised if trump is not in office when this trade deal gets inked. its a slow and painful process.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,131 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    "Germany and the auto industry control the EU" is a trope that has been debunked many, many times over - no matter how many times the Brits trotted it out.

    The EU gave away almost nothing. Just vague promises that the EU itself has limited control over and that was mostly planned anyway. EU FDI into the US happens anyway. EU countries are buying LNG from the US anyway. EU countries were planning to ramp up military spending anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Don't think any ranked as hugely controversial. He did pardon his son and the likes of Fauci but that was largely because Trump was expected to target anyone who was viewed as political enemies. Meanwhile Ghislaine Maxwell was instrumental to Epstein's sexual abuse and there now seems to be a genuine possibility that he pardons her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,400 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    Read any articles this morning. It's a bad deal for the EU, Read the Irish Times or independent. Nobody is in anyway calling this a win or anything like a good deal for the EU.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 33,131 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    It is a "bad deal" in one aspect because tariffs are stupid, but when dealing with a stupid man you don't have the luxury of coming to a mutually beneficial agreement. The alternative was an all out trade war. And while I think Trump would have, as usual, chickened out of that I can fully understand not taking that risk. Given that the opposing sides are already claiming different things about what the deal contains, the whole thing could equally likely fall apart anyway.

    Incidentally the IT analysis of it doesn't once suggest it is a bad deal.



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