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Cork GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,613 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Cork have been considered soft for a long time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 582 ✭✭✭JKerova1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,690 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Some difference between how Kerry handled being so far ahead at ht and us. When Hoggie had a chance to put us up at the start of the second half he missed whereas the Kerry lads come out and turn the screw further...we need to learn from teams like that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Seadin


    Just going to say it myself. Kerry know how to win. We simply don't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,992 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    We have players who were playing last week lining out this weekend for their clubs in football.

    Bar 8 little places north of tralee, football is only game in town in Kerry.

    Kerry lads won't be doing that

    I work with parents who kids have never touched a hurley or been to hurling match.

    I'm as negative as anyone I know but 120 years of success in Hurling should not be taken away from 20 years now of unable to deliver.

    Every county has had famines, even Kerry.

    Its how we react now to last week is the most important thing.

    EVENFLOW



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,677 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    ye are upsest with the past , if this talk about famines and whatever didnt exist in cork ye would have won last week , the cork players were a bag of nerves last sunday on the field , making mistakes they wouldn't make at home at club training , no one will ever take away corks great past , but the pressure on the current crop needs to wane before they win another one , which they will

    if cork people use the term its only a matter of time rather then famine , success will arrive much faster



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,992 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,054 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    They do but Donegal were dreadful today, they looked way off the pace, similar to Cork last week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,677 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Donegal were as good as Donegal could be , they played to a structural game plan and failed

    Last week cork never performed, because they were under huge pressure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I think if Cork could get over the line once in an All Ireland final like Kerry in 2022, the pressure be off them and they could play to their strengths then.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,677 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    I taught if ye won this year ye would dominate the next 3 or 4 , but pressure is still in the way it would seem



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I think this years loss will have damaged any future prospects of this team. I dont know if they will ever get over the line. We may never see it if I'm being realistic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭lmk123


    I would absolutely love if your prediction came through but I don’t think so, ye will win it at some stage and will probably win a few together then. Surely this year won’t set ye back as much as you say, let some of the older lads go and bring in some young lads, use the hurt of this year to motivate next year. Am I taking too much of a simplistic / optimistic view of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Straight Talker


    On an unrelated note is there a Manchester City and Manchester United like thing going on with some Limerick fans here? The nouveau riche neighbours, who still seem envious of their bigger and more storied rivals despite them being starved of recent success.😁

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭lmk123


    I don’t see what I said wrong, ye were hot favourites and probably the best team in the country until the second half of the AI final, I’m simply making the point that surely things can be turned around / make a few changes, it’s not as if ye are starting off from scratch with nothing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 733 ✭✭✭Newbie20


    Simply unbelievable because it isn’t true. There were 16 from the 26 the last day on the 26 from the 2021 final. 17 if you count Jack O Connor who didn’t make the 26 for this final. They do need more change for next year though that is for sure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Seadin


    According to wiki these are the players on the day. Most of them still involved. Closer to 20 to be exact.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 733 ✭✭✭Newbie20


    Eoin Cadogan, Alan Cadogan, Seán O Leary Hayes, Conor Cahalane, Niall Cashman, Billy Hennessy, Ger Collins, Colm Spillane, Seán Twomey were all on the 26 for that final and no longer involved. That’s 9 plus Jack O Connor not on the 26 for last weekend is 10.

    I don’t think this is unusual comparing to other counties but the thing is most of these changes were subs that day so very little change in the starting 15 which is the biggest problem. And a few of the ones gone from above were due to retirement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭lukin


    Lads we've been living in a fools paradise with this Cork team. The plain and simple truth is that they just are not that good. Look at our record in Munster over the last two years; it isn't that impressive is it? We lost two games last year and this year we lost one, won two and drew two (I am including the Munster final in that).
    Since the format of the provincial championships was changed to a round robin it has had the effect of putting a false value on some teams. It means you can lose two games and still qualify for the AI series (as we did last year). Also if you draw a game there isn't a replay. It hasn't made much of a difference in Leinster because KK are so far ahead of the other teams. It has had an effect in Munster because the teams are more evenly matched.
    If the Clare game we drew in Ennis this year had gone to a replay would we have won it? If the Munster final had gone to replay would we have won it?
    We could have been playing Kilkenny in an AI semi this year and they gave Tipp a much closer game this year than we did remember.
    Last year we were thirty seconds away from being knocked out of Munster. It was a quick puck-out from Patrick Collins that allowed us to win the penalty at the other end that Horgan scored. We could have quite easily not qualified for the AI final this year and last year. I am not saying we were lucky; the lads took advantage of the opportunities they got and full credit to them for that.
    We need to be more convincing in Munster if we are to win the AI. I hate to be drawing comparisons with other teams but the Limerick team that won the four in a row only lost one game in Munster in the years they won the AI's. And that was only by a point (to Clare in 2023). Tipp were not convincing in Munster either this year but you could actually argue they were more consistent than us. They beat Waterford by a bigger score than us, they beat Clare in Ennis (which we failed to do) and they drew with Limerick (albeit in Thurles).
    The only blip they had was when we beat them convincingly in Cork. But we had to two blips; the hammering by Limerick in the round-robin and the second-half meltdown in Ennis.
    The optimism we had before the AI was based on us beating Tipp twice this year already. The two capitulations were ignored; "that won't happen again".
    I think there is an All-Ireland in this Cork team but it's a big ask to get back to the final again. If they do the pressure on them to win will be tenfold what it was this year.
    But we will nearly need to mow every team down on the way to show we mean business. No scraping through or getting hammered in one game and winning the next.
    I really hope we can do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,992 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Consistency is our biggest problem

    Secondly we don't have management who are quick enough to make tactical change or substitution

    Thirdly we are too nice. Way too nice. Just look what happened during hand shakes. Tipp lads just slaping our hands. Just took it. We need become pretty much ruthless.

    EVENFLOW



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭King Power Fox




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Seadin


    I agree with that. We need to come out of Munster next year and we need to beat every team well and not just a good performance here and there. Must get better with each performance and like Kerry yesterday when we get to final next time we bloody perform and we put this Munster hoodoo shite that we can't beat Munster teams in finals to bed once and for all. Kerry did that to their critics when they said for years they couldnt beat Northern teams. Now they beat them for fun. Cork have to get better end this fcking famine once and for all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 202 ✭✭King Power Fox


    Next year Cork are away to Tipp, should be Waterford away but have Clare and Limerick at home. Clare will surely be better next year and Limerick will be smarting after a poor year by their standards. Will Cork get 2 wins from those 3 games?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Seadin


    Not guaranteed in sport but if Cork want to win an All Ireland, more effort across the board with management and players will be required. They shouldnt need any motivation to win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭lukin


    Actually it's a bit of a myth that Kerry "couldn't beat Northern teams for years". It was only Tyrone they had a problem with; they beat Kerry twice in an AI final and once in a semi-final. Down beat them once (2010) and Armagh beat them once (2002). That's within a ten year period. If you look at their record in general against northern teams it was quite good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    4 Corkmen, Heavin, Garde, Brosnan and Deane



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭Gamb!t




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Tipp in Thurles first up next year

    Provisional 2026 Munster SHC fixtures

    Round 1: Tipperary v Cork; Clare v Waterford.

    Round 2: Cork v Limerick; Waterford v Tipperary.

    Round 3 (separate weekends): Clare v Limerick (first); Waterford v Cork (second).

    Round 4: Limerick v Waterford; Tipperary v Clare.

    Round 5: Cork v Clare; Limerick v Tipperary.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,862 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    There was a Munster Council meeting tonight and Cork and Kerry to be seeded in separate Munster SFC semi-finals in 2026

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