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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,092 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    I can see it in myself even. I check it way too often. It’s a curse really. The Nokias were ideal, and log onto the laptop at night for an hour or Facebook or dd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,595 ✭✭✭older by the day




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭have2flushtwice


    Got a job to do in rural galway near Monivea Does anyone know and concrete suppliers around there?

    II'll Be collecting a few meters of lean mix as the job goes along.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    I was on the bank of the river Shannon earlier and I could see a large wind farm direct east from where I was standing. Never noticed it before. It must have been in Tipp somewhere. It might have been the weather conditions that I could see so far.

    Looked online and see there are a few about 23 miles away in that direction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,956 ✭✭✭50HX


    CConditional planning has been granted on a separate farm 143hectares in the same area.

    IIt has driven up the price of land as a result



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭cal naughton


    Try esker ready mix about twenty twenty minutes from Monivea



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,595 ✭✭✭older by the day


    It's a spell since I was up there, but 500 hectares is a bigger than most parishes here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,956 ✭✭✭50HX


    Its hard to get your head around it, an aerial view is the best when you'd have an idea of the landowners.

    Mixed land but also some good dairy set ups there but no one to continue it on.

    Whatever about the panels but I'd hate to be anywhere near the battery banks if they caught fire



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,746 ✭✭✭✭Base price




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,956 ✭✭✭50HX


    About a quarter of it is & some of that is usable grassland



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,746 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    I've seen the best of prime land in NCD/Meath covered in solar panels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,158 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Don’t have a problem with the panels or wind farms. We all like the lights when we throw the switch and it has to be generated somehow. Two wind farms here within kilometre in each direction and not a bother from them.
    Quarry within same distance and it’s a scourge with dust and dirt, coukdnt keep the house windows clean.
    Between future cap changes and trade deals Ag has a difficult future and if solar companies are offering good lease money lads would be mad not to take it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,595 ✭✭✭older by the day


    We have a lot of wind turbines down here, built on hills and rough land, beside the roadways and the plot they are on, they work away.

    But I have to question solar, covering some of the best land, we are told that on a house they don't produce much in winter. Ain't that the most energy hungry time of the year. The wind turbines near me, rarely ever stop, unless for service. Water is another source not really spoken about.

    There must be huge money and grants following solar, as companies would not be paying farmers otherwise



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,573 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Same around here.

    Most farmers are over 60 now and these alternative uses of land are a huge lifesaver to the the likes of us.

    I really used to worry about where the demand for land would come from around here when we weren't able to go on.

    Half the things we worry about never happen, the wheel seems to always turn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭dmakc


    The lights were never an issue for housing, it's for the data centres. Housing is at the top of a waterfall approach to a potential blackout (and amber alerts are down through this decade).

    Now data centres and big industry will have a license to source their own energy without waiting on an ESB connection, if ye thought it was bad now, two weeks ago the government gave every big industry the license to enter the game for land (solar).

    Money coming to the developers for nothing too. I truly hope their business model plummets in the long run. Awful deceit going on across the country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,158 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Fairness Amazon walked away from a big investment this week on Meath/Dublin border because they weren’t guaranteed power connection they were looking for so it’s hard to say them and their business is being prioritised above housing.
    Data centres are here as much for cheap cooling water as much as anything. We’re not putting enough value on that but that’s another discussion.

    Can the land under panels not be grazed by sheep, I see a few smaller solar farms grazing sheep under them. So the land use is changed rather than lost to farming altogether maybe the government need to include planning clauses that the land should be grazed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭dmakc


    The sheep are merely a farmer sales pitch when it's just saving the developers purchasing automowers to tidy underneath the panels. I also saw a contract where sheep grazing was only permitted one month per year at something measly like 5 sheep per hA.

    As for the Amazon place, what was it really going to achieve anyway? IMO the country needs to slow down a bit regardless of energy. Chasing FDI taxes to inflate everything and cover the countryside in black. Amazon are also involved with BnM Derrygreenagh park there'll be no loss on them.

    Thinking bigger picture, and the future of the countryside, if every retiring farmer chose solar for 40years (through death) instead of passing on to either next generation or unrelated young farmer (as is promoted in other European countries), this would kill off any area within two generations.

    The 40,000ac of solar for energy is just a 2030 target, there's a new target coming for net zero 2050. Now big industry have entered the game on top of this for own use (no grid required). Considering it's 95% prime farmland, it's very concerning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,985 ✭✭✭White Clover


    The sheep grazing thing is a pure cod. How is the sward going to be managed properly? Ie weeds, pasture rejuvenation, topping etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,255 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    You only need to inform if you are changing the vet that does your testing. (Though it’s bad form not to give the testing to the vet that’s doing your night calls IMO) It’s a very short form.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,527 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    Thanks. I’ll chat to the potential new vet first and then contact the Dept if I’m changing.

    If I do change, the new crowd will get everything - testing, night calls, vaccines, doses, and anything else needed

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,218 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    AI is likely to double electric demand in the next decade, and any society that isn't all in will be left behind in a way probably starker than now and a non electric society.

    The pace of change in the next decade will equal or surpass the last century.

    We certainly have become over reliant on foreign multinationals, all eggs in a small basket and everything else left to hell. A bit of balance isn't a bad thing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,218 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    With solar, you are harvesting a crop, same as the sun converts it's energy in to grain in a head of wheat, you are selling bushels of volts, it's different farming no doubt but it pays very well and if you want to you can buy another place with the money.

    The days of working for free on the farm have been finished by inflation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭dmakc


    Having data centres here as opposed to elsewhere isn't going to hamper anyone globally from using AI. We can still benefit without sacrificing the country to price gouging energy developers. The end balance certainly won't be in the favour of normal tax paying citizens, that much is certain



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,573 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Solar panels and windmills is only greenwashing, the local development here has 5 gas fired generators and capacity for millions of gallons of oil.

    Access to Solar panels and windmills were just to ensure they got planning



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,928 ✭✭✭straight


    Dung beetles... I must be doing something right. The biodiversity involved in livestock is not fully appreciated.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭dmakc


    Absolutely. If that case's developer is HQ'd in Offaly, then they're a very crooked shower known for exploiting the system in any which way they can.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,571 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    The lack of spray use in livestock is not fully appreciated. Though some livestock producers and merchants to those don't help themselves. Mectin dosage only really brings short term benefits and then kills dung beetles. Longterm it's turning livestock to need more dosing. The white wormers should be first port of call and only really the first year of the bovine's life.

    Back to the spray use. The insecticides and glyphosate are/were linked to autism in children from the developing foetus.

    Now dicamba is being mentioned.

    Agriculture is getting cleaner and spot free and humans are being born with more problems.

    Teagasc being a government agency should be it's first port of call the health of the people and the health of the livestock. Instead the generations of people born now have never had more conditions and the livestock are treated as second to wildlife and a nusiance to the country. While proposals to reduce pesticide use by 2030 in Ireland are scrapped from lobbying by the tillage merchants as it's seen as vegan in quarters.

    Down here and I won't name specifics. Cancer rates in workers and lorry drivers from feed mills are being talked about privately. If right was right herbivores would only be fed on herbage and not need concentrate use. That should be the aim of every livestock producer. But we are all capitalists and money making rules all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭have2flushtwice


    Have you a link to this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,158 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    I wonder is that Peer reviewed science or just some lads own research ?? Be lots of gowls in the US claiming they found the cause of Autism because the government are promoting this idea and there’s likely a big pot of funding to be accessed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,571 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Chatgpt doesn't link dicamba with autism. But it does with gly and ìnsecticides gone off the market just a few years ago.

    It links dicamba with cancers alright.

    Like they do have warnings on the labels for a reason.

    but anyway sin é



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