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General sheep thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭StoutPost


    Usually would have done the dry ones first yeah. Bit of a change in thinking, do the high value ones and possible problems first. So I did the rams first, then anything with dependents, and dry sheep last.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭joe35


    We'd take them in order of fitness. Rams, dry hoggets, singles and then doubles.

    My doubles were the easiest done this year, with one thing or another it was 2 or 3 weeks before I got to them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Sami23




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,978 ✭✭✭White Clover


    A week anyway or until you can visibly see their udders starting to shrink. I wouldn't force them to graze too tight either just be moving them on after other stock to clean out paddocks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Ok thanks - they are weaned since last Monday week and on a very bare field since.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭Tileman


    don’t starve them too much. It will take too long to put condition back on them afterwards



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Scary reading in this weeks IFJ on the wormer resistance crisis in the NZ sheep industry - a huge % of sheep farms there now showing triple wormer failure. Too many here still in the dark on the issue for which a large part of the blame has to go to DAFM, Teagasc and Vets who are still not educating enough folks on the issue:(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,568 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Farmers have no interest in testing, we're doing it here twenty years and used to be regularily brought up at farm walks by teagasc, yet we are where we are,

    Blame can not be laid at the public services in this case for a change.

    Plenty of farmers have triple resistance in Ireland too, and some are selling it into other flocks in their breeding hoggets



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,969 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    Yeah - on your latter point I have seen plenty of that too in these parts:(



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭StoutPost


    Yup, I test, if I hadn't I wouldn't have known the ewes needed no dosing and would have dosed them for non existing liver fluke. Lambs were borderline for strongyle so did them as had to do for cocci anyway. I remember talking to a bunch of farmers last year, the consensus was they hadn't time to be doing that testing. The local vet offers the testing service, Teagasc (as much as I disagree with them on other things) have had testing in sheep farmers faces since STAP at least.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭Young95


    is it okay to give lambs a worm drench and cobalt drench at the same time?

    The wormers efficiency won’t be affected by the mineral dose would it ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,568 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    We always put cobalt sulphate in the worm dose with no ill effects



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭StoutPost


    I would. Gave mine a worm dose, cocci dose, and a mineral drench at the same time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭Young95


    what weight would you guys draft lambs still on ewes for the factory at ?

    Have few single lambs April born time which are sorta 41 to 43kgs live weight.
    charlaois x lambs. No concentrates fed.

    thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,568 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Our last load were unweaned, average liveweight was 43.8 and deadweight was 21.4 getting .5kg meal/day



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭joe35


    Watch the live weight of lambs straight from the field. They'd have a full belly of grass in them. So they're probably on 38/39 kgs.

    I try and get to 45 if no meal. But the could drop 30 cent in a week, so you never know



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    If they are still with the mother you want to get them away from her and straight to the factory as quick as possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭Jimbo789


    I got them tested again today. It’s 3 weeks since they were last tested and 10 weeks since they had the white dose. 550 was the count so will give them a yellow dose.

    The first lot of lambs went to the factory this week, hopefully there won’t be too many overweight in 3 weeks when next lot can go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Sami23




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭Jimbo789


    Chanaverm but any of the Levamisole doses should be the same.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,362 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    Weighed last night. Seems to be a great year for thrive. Best of my lambs did 420g per day since he was born😁😁. Worst did 280 which still isn't bad considering they are on leitrim land. I started rotational grazing this year and wow there is some difference!!. I have fed little to no meal and my lambs are way better than other years.

    Thats the 42kg Lad. Born 19th April.

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    Have them all up to the homeplace in kildare to finish now.

    Not all sunshine and rainbows though… am out since 6 bringing 11 ewes home that keep breaking out since I weaned them at the weekend.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    anyone any experience of Romney ewes? I was thinking of buying a ram to breed replacement. Want a flock of ewes to lamb outside with minimal shepherding from early April to early may . Would’ve half breed romneys do a job? Many people here that lamb outside in mid April mostly let them at it? I’d need ewes not scanning high and mostly 1.5 to 1.0 lamb per ewe I’d imagine. It would need to be very low input on labour and feed to be worthwhile



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭StoutPost


    No experience of Romneys but I lamb outside in April. I don't see most lambs born, but if I see a ewe getting sick or having a lamb I'll hang around or come back if I'm not far away, until the lamb is out and breathing at least. Just would hate to find one or both dead the next turn for want of a check on them sooner. That said I try not to buy too many problems either with ewe/ram shape. Weather, condition/age of ewes, foxes, greycrows are the biggest outdoor problems here anyway. Lambed plenty of quite old broken mouth ewes this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Joesa


    I bought broken mouth westie ewes, with lambs at foot, the past 2 years.

    All lambed outside no major problems.

    I'd do it every year only I'm afraid of buying in resistance. I found them great value, but was only doing it as I was short in numbers.

    I ran a Romney tup last year so I've about 20 lovely hoggets to go to a Charlie ram this year. If I think of it I'll let you know how they do



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    can you pm where you got ram ? What numbers would you be doing on scanning rate and weaning rate??I scanned 2.05 this year and weaned 1.7 , some amount of labour snd money into them though with all the multiple births



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,362 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    I have run a dorset ram the past few years. This year I assisted 2 ewes out of 43. One was because I was going to a match and the other was a huge lamb. I like to let the ewes get on with it and usually just check them 3 times a day whilst working from home. The odd day during lambing I had to go to Dublin and they were only checked twice.

    For your job though I'd be looking at easycares. I joined the easycare whatsapp group out of interest and I think that's how I'll go with some of my flock. They are seriously low Input.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,568 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    If you dose bought replacements coming in with zolvix and a yellow wormer and leave them in a yard/shed for 48 hrs after, you'll avoid buying in resistance.

    Don't spread their dung under on your land for 8 weeks to give the expelled worms a chance to die



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 602 ✭✭✭Young95


    is a zolvix dose on its own not enough? What’s the idea of the yellow too ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,568 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    the yellow dose is always advised byteagasc any way

    https://teagasc.ie/news--events/daily/quarantine-drench-avoid-bringing-resistant-worms-on-to-your-farm/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    CCompletely agree farmers wont do as advised. Prefer to blame so.eone else



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