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Niall Gilligan cleared of assault

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭Homer


    ah I see you can’t even take a joke.. you should go outside and get some fresh air .. ranting and raving on the internet with strangers all day is bad for your health 😜



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,723 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I did get the joke, it was a good one, I thanked it! Even quoted True Lies for good measure, guess that slipped past you, lol. Might be time to step away from the screen and get some fresh air!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Madd002


    After reading all comments and then reading and seeing the injuries inflicted on the boy in the independent today. I have to say what he did was a bit harsh. Dont get me wrong i dont agree with what the young lad did, a clip round the ear or a kick up the arse would suffice, but in this case I agree with his mother he should have been brought home and then spoke to his parents abput what he did or rang the guards and let them bring him home to the parents.I then would of got a quote and presented a bill for the damage. That poor child will be psychologically scarred for life.

    https://m.independent.ie/news/stunned-shocked-disgusted-deflated-parents-of-boy-beaten-by-niall-gilligan-react-to-former-hurlers-acquittal/a1062355930.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,546 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    That poor child might not go breaking and entering anymore. He learned a lesson his parents never bothered teaching him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,999 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Why, you think the father should get a beat down also.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 748 ✭✭✭HazeDoll


    Imagine if Gilligan had, as the mother suggested 'put our son into his car.' The little vandal would hardly have gone willingly, so Gilligan would have had to forcibly restrain him and somehow contain him in the car. Then he would have been accused of abducting a child and all that implies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭JVince


    And the parents of the child could sue for damages. A civil court has a lower bar and they could make sure it was taken out of the Midwest area so that no cheerleaders were on the jury

    Remember, this was a run down partially derelict building that Gilligan picked up cheaply and sold it for a substantial profit.

    It was not as if the kid was doing anything that was going to make a difference to the condition of the building.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,723 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    When you say "also" do you think the child was beaten?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,088 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Beating a 12 year old with a stick, as much as many people in Ireland might have got the urge for any number of reasons - parents, neighbours, property owners, farmers etc- isn’t really the correct way to deal with antisocial or illegal behaviour.

    I wasn’t a juror on the trial -I haven’t heard all the evidence- I do have faith in Irish juries overall - I’m probably surprised at the not guilty verdict given the injuries sustained vs his age vs the crime committed - but I do hold the right of defence of your property in high regard also -

    I feel the bar should be very high before taking a case against a landowner protecting their property - while I don’t want it to become like America where blowing someone’s brains out who shouldn’t be on your property will be met with a medal award for bravery, I’m not interested much in providing too much protections to burglars thieves and what not either-

    I don’t like to see any child hurt or suffer- but messages to those who participate in property related crime also need to hear a loud message



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,086 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The Sindo article today quotes them as saying they won't be doing that.

    I'd imagine its mainly because Gilligan has a huge amount of support in the area, and if they were to attempt to sue him civilly, having been found not guilty by a criminal jury, they would receive a massive backlash in their community.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,723 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    I find it incredible that most of Gilligan’s cheerleaders are openly celebrating him giving a child a cruel beating in revenge for trespassing in a derelict building. We’re not talking about some hardened criminal here, it was a child. The pictures that have now been released make it even more sickening, they clearly show multiple injuries all over a small kids underdeveloped body. This was a little boy, not a threat. Gilligan, a hardened 6'5" ex-athlete, chose to beat him.

    The fact that his supporters gleefully admit it was a revenge beating or a "good hiding" and not self-defence (which is what his defence was) says everything we need to know. Even his most ardent supporters here don't believe it was self defence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Seems like Niall Gilligan has grown a bit since he finished playing with Clare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭argentum


    I understood from the article that it happened in the afternoon and it was daylight hours yet some people here say it happened at 2 am so what was a child doing out at that time

    Which is correct



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,546 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Gilligan might have stopped the spawn from progressing on his criminal path.

    Shame his parents didn't teach him granted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    Simple matter of tens of thousands in legal costs if a case proceeded, for both parties. Only one party could afford, easily, those projected costs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,931 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    Padraig nally, Diarmuid Rossa Phelan, Niall Gilligan. Irish juries take the side of the person defending their property.
    the moral of the story is if you go on someone else's land and act the maggot, don't expect an Irish Jury to take your side.
    Nally only did some jail time because the Judge, knowing what the jury would do, ordered them to find him guilty. He appealed and there was a re-trial in which he was acquitted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    Unfortunately all of these cases went as far as they did, meaning unnecessary stress and expense for the people involved, before they won the cases.

    As an aside, why did the Sunday Independent report that Gilligan is six foot five when he clearly is not. It’s hard to take the journalism seriously when there are gratuitous inaccuracies like that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,546 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    They wanted to try and portray some kind of David vs. Goliath showdown.

    A weak innocent tiny child against the weapon wielding 6'5" behemoth lusting for blood.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    The defendant is a big enough man, but when there is exaggeration like that, it undermines credibility. They should have put up his actual height.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭JVince


    Nally & Phelan were facing aggressive thugs and in both situations the thugs had ample opportunity to leave. In the mcnally case, the scumbag (Ward) attacked mcnally (age 60) and had a long history of violence against people. It was also a situation that a spate of burglaries had taken place in the area in people's home that left a feeling of fear. McNally thought ward's son was getting re-enforcements and was in genuine fear of his life.

    In the Rossa case, again, they had ample opportunity to leave the farm, but instead made several threats. All of those there had long lists of convictions for violent crime and again, the scumbag who died was a member of a known criminal traveller gang.

    Gilligan is fit and 40.

    It was bright. (sunset at 7pm - the beating took place at 6.30)

    It was a semi-derelict property

    He beat up a young 12 years old child and there was no evidence that this 12 year old child put any fear into gilligan.

    He laid into the child judging by the injuries. But he's a "local hero" because he was a gaa "star" and the jury was from the local area.

    To me he is a scumbag - just like any other grown man who beats up a child



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,723 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Neither Nally nor Rossa Phelan ever assaulted a child. There is no comparison, and it's unfair to tarnish their reputations by associating them with Gilligan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭Homer


    some salty tears from one or two liberal lefty posters here 😄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,723 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    It’s gas how anything that doesn’t suit the narrative suddenly gets labelled as ‘liberal lefties’ including calling out a grown man for beating up a child. This whole ‘liberal lefty’ nonsense was dragged in by MAGA Americans and is now being parroted here by gullible fools who think it somehow excuses child abuse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,350 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    It's obvious that the jury verdict doesn't suit your own narrative LOL.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,931 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    So you think its ok to kill someone but not give a child a smack? How do you know Nally or Phelan never assaulted a child? As it happens, Gilligan didn't either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,546 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    The child shouldn't have been trespassing.

    I'd imagine thanks to Gilligan he will think twice before trespassing again.

    Ideally his parents would have already thought the child not to but Gilligan had to do their job.

    Fair play to him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,723 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Who told you I think it’s OK to kill someone? I don’t know if Nally or Phelan ever assaulted children, but that’s not what they’re known for. They were known for killing men who were trespassing with ill intent, and both claimed they were in fear for their lives. They have their fans and their detractors, fair enough. But Gilligan wasn’t up against a dangerous intruder, he bet the shite out of a harmless kid. That’s not cool. Even the most ardent peadophobe would stop at a beating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,075 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    Gilligan did not act unlawfully, that has been established.

    People alleging corruption, with no evidence at all, changes nothing.

    An unfortunate incident, thankfully resolved now.

    There is a lesson here for parents who think it’s okay for their children to violate other peoples property.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭crusd


    Posts such as this, irrespective of opinion of the matter in hand, are very useful in identifying people incapable of coherent thought



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭JVince


    Correct. The child should not have been trespassing.

    But should we allow a property owner to beat a child quite viciously just because they were exploring an abandoned building near where they lived?

    Maybe you think a child should be beaten for misdemeanors, maybe you think corporal punishment should be back in schools, maybe you think a young child should be beaten about as punishment for a relatively small indiscretion.

    If you are that type of person - then that can be on your conscience. Thankfully the vast majority of people are not like that.

    Gilligan got off because the trial was in his local area and the jury would have been "star struck". The evidence certainly pointed to a different outcome



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