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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Have you ever thought of running for a political position in Ireland?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,150 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Have you ever thought of criticising Trump, or even acknowledging when he is completely in the wrong, as he was in the lie he tried to peddle about the Federal Reserve building?
    Or would that breach the see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil policy you seem to have about him?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,933 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Don't need to. I work in the architectural field so I understand these things.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Trump has many flaws, many many flaws, but y’all seem to pointing these out just fine, though greatly exaggerated most of the time, forgive me for not hopping on the wagon but Trump is also trying to mend a deeply broken financial situation that the citizens of the US generally understand, he’s a bit of an idiot at times, and a big idiot other times, but he gets stuff done, he’s already negotiated better trade deals for Americans and reduced the risk of nuclear attack from the Iranians, he’s stone mad but he gets sh1t done, and that’s not even mentioning the alternative path that we could have continued on regarding far left ideology if the dems had of won the election.

    Trump is an idiot yes, but at the end of the day it’s a better alternative.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Perfect, we have bike shed that still needs some explaining, when can you start?



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  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,933 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    no problem…. it was €36k for the construction costs and €300k for my fee to design it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,905 ✭✭✭McFly85


    He gets nothing done, and certainly isn’t fixing the financial situation, he’s making it demonstrably worse.

    He’s added 4 trillion of debt to the US but none of that is going on anything the public remotely need but rich people will get further tax breaks. But hey, you can now Venmo the government if you’d like to chip in.

    He’s made practically everything more expensive for Americans with his tariff nonsense, which has destroyed their international standing and could take decades to recover.

    I agree with you on one thing, he is an idiot. And you can’t possibly expect an idiot to be remotely good at something as complex as running a country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,670 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Only in America could a party like the democrats be considered far left or called communists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,671 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    He's charging the US public tariffs, has failed to reduce the price of anything and has actually done the opposite. Also the US national debt that the GOP have been upset about for years, he is one again drastically increasing it. On top of that he's a rapist who appears to be impeding an investigation into the trafficking of minors cause his name shows up a lot.

    Then there's been the endorsement of genocide etc. You can try to add glitter to **** but it's still **** at the end of the day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,150 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    So that's just an excuse for you not to criticise Trump yourself. Not convincing.
    It is far beyond "flaws" and being an "idiot", he is a vile human being, a racist, a rapist, who is a clear danger to democracy in the US and the safety of the wider world.
    He bombed the Iranians, who pretty much then said well, you didn't do as much damage as you thought and in any way we moved the stuff. This was backed up by independent agencies.

    His economic plans are nonsense, impoverishing ordinary Americans, stripping them of medical cover and benefits yet adding to the debt, caused economic uncertainty home and abroad, havoc in the markets that hits pension values… it is the bond markets and the Fed Reserve keeping some semblance of economic sanity to keep the lights on. But when Trump tries to discredit the Fed Reserve Chairman with lies, you say nothing.

    But then some people will believe the headlines of whatever Trump claims, even when it is a lie.
    Anyone who thinks Democrats like Biden and Harris = far left ideology has immediately discredited their opinion of US politics.

    Objectively, your claims are nonsense.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,547 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Trump is also trying to mend a deeply broken financial situation that the citizens of the US generally understand,

    1. He is not trying to mend anything. He is trying to make more money for the wealthy and himself
    2. Where is the evidence that the US citizens generally understand because both History and common sense would dictate not voting Republican?

    he’s a bit of an idiot at times, and a big idiot other times,

    Agreed 👍

    Sure he doesn't even understand primary school maths!!!

    but he gets stuff done,

    Eh no he doesn't. He generally bullsh1ts about getting stuff done

    he’s already negotiated better trade deals for Americans

    Is that why American small businesses are closing? Is that why American supply chains have become more costly?

    reduced the risk of nuclear attack from the Iranians,

    The risk of nothing is still nothing but I'm aware maths isn't your strong point either!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    "Trump has many flaws" - nope he is just deeply "flawed" full stop and clearly not fit for the office he holds. This is what gets me about the Trump phenomenon, the completely lack of honesty, the cult like faith and denial of reality of his supporters.

    Some rhetorical questions (we all know the answers!).

    Would you trust him to take care of takings of a local charity event?

    Would you want his company doing work on your house, say the critical stuff like roof, walls or foundation?

    If he was younger, would you like it if one of your children were in a relationship with him?

    Would you buy a car (2nd biggest purchases of their lives for most people) off him?

    Yet in a democracy where people have their say on their leader, he is put in charge. He gets to hold the trigger button for an arsenal of 1000s of ICBMs that can send us (non-Americans too!) to kingdom come. He gets to wield the awesome conventional might of the US military as he pleases, and a large deal of control over the giant US economy and by extension the world economy.

    He doesn't "get sh— done" (IMO always the attraction of fascism and dictators for the ignorant, corrupt, greedy and/or evil voters in all democracies), he's just able to bully others to (try and) get his way by using the blunt force of the US (the powers listed above) and leverage it has over others, especially those countries who have put their trust in it. It's like having a cheat code, but he is IMO contributing to frittering away and weakening of that US power in future.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Trump didn’t negotiate “better trade deals”

    He negotiated taxes on American consumers and companies increasing inflation

    Like a kidnapper threatening not to shoot the hostage but themselves in head, with the hostage negotiators scratching their heads in confusion and going “well ok?!”

    I said it before, I suspect Trump is envious of European style VAT taxes but due to decades of fox propaganda and his own speeches can’t bring them in to raise taxes in Americans to then give tax breaks to billionaires. So he latched onto tarrifs which accomplishes almost the same goal but in a much more stupid and harmful manner

    Americans endup being screwed as these taxes sure as hell won’t be paid by foreigners (literally not possible) but by American companies who pass it onto consumers, all whole value of dollar falls and inflation rises to add insults to injury



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,324 ✭✭✭the whole year inn


    I never seen so many ridiculous questions.Would you let him run a charity shop. He is a Billionaire , he runs things at a grand scale. He works with loads of companys that would gladly work with him again. Clearly you have something against him but dont be asking ridiculous questions , your one step away from asking would you let him walk your dog .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    lol, I seem to have touched a nerve. It's a good addition in some ways, as the questions were about trust…given the huge responsibilities and level of power he has been given by voters as US President. I wouldn't trust him with a dog either (if I had one!).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,319 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    This is a long video and you don't really need to watch more than a random minute or two of it, but it gets better as it goes along! Blueberry farmers are asking nurses - NURSES - to volunteer their time to pick blueberries. I can't imagine why blueberries suddenly need to be picked compared with previous years when there were lots of people to pick them - oh.

    Anyway the nurses are 'expressing their displeasure' and their views on the system that suddenly needs blueberry pickers.

    And as someone in the comments pointed out, nurses can easily be immigrants, but ICE are not going to haul them out of hospitals, even they have more awareness than doing that, but if they are in the fields picking blueberries…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,324 ✭✭✭the whole year inn


    Touched a nerve not really , I dont really have any skin in the game . Ive no influnce on who is Preseident and I dont get worked up what happens, but I try to be informed but overall I am just watching from the sideline.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,150 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    You don't have any skin in the game yet you jumped in because of the poster drawing parallels with Trump's untrustworthiness in small things as a reflection of how he approaches the economy and politics.
    Not because of any of the documented reprehensible conduct of Trump?
    Utterly unconvincing.

    Trump's tariff policies are already impacting the Irish economy and budget.

    A Government source said the ongoing uncertainty on the impacts of the Trump administration’s tariffs on EU goods as well as any potential EU countermeasures means that the future of Irish finances is harder to predict and will necessitate a “tighter” budget this year. It is expected that Tánaiste Simon Harris will tell Cabinet this year’s document will be “different” from previous years, given the continued uncertainty with tariffs, and that decisions made in the budget will “have to focus on protecting jobs and investment during what could be an economically turbulent period ahead”. Government sources have said that the increase in protectionism, rising tariffs, and the “fragmentation of global supply chains” pose a threat to Ireland’s economic model.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-41673926.html

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,547 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    He works with loads of companys that would gladly work with him again

    What about those that he didn't pay? Will they work with him again?

    Donald Trump’s Business Plan Left a Trail of Unpaid Bills - WSJ

    USA TODAY exclusive: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills

    The small business owners Trump never fully paid | CNN Politics

    (I just pulled three examples - there are millions more articles about how he doesn't pay his suppliers)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,150 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    You could add to that, the cities Trump screwed over by not paying his bills for rallies etc

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-campaign-leaving-cities-hundreds-thousands-unpaid-bills/story?id=115415455

    And the attendees he left stranded in the desert:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/attendees-describe-absolute-chaos-trump-230853081.html

    It's all part of a pattern. Trump is incapable of responsible good governance at any level.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It’s a fair point, from the outset it’s difficult to engage with people who believe that what it takes to run a country and babysit are comparable, though somewhat understandable as that’s what Kamala Harris was presenting, and that’s why the citizens of America rejected her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    Headline today:

    "Countries who refuse US beef are 'on notice', says Trump"

    What the f*ck is he on about! On notice for not buying US beef as if countries have an obligation to buy from America. Clown.

    It's this type of sh*t that is causing a lot of American resentment around the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,383 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    A lot of countries don't buy US beef because it's worse than the domestic stuff which most people prefer and because it's inherently uncompetitive in terms of logistics. I wouldn't expect the man who advocates sheep dewormer and bleach injections to understand this though.

    Good video on the subject:

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    effectively he wants the world to lower their standards rather than they raising theirs I food production. It’s an impressive way to blame others essentially on their own problems, a conservatives way out of a lot of things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,561 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Wtf does any of this have to do with a bike shed in Ireland?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,422 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Deflection & distraction. Can't defend Trump being directly proven to be wrong when Powell was explaining that Trump's figures were incorrect and how also the general reasons why cost overruns can happen on jobs particularly ones with significant complexities, so erlich has to try and distract and pull the discussion down a rabbit hole which is 1000% irrelevant.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,423 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    There is no more self-defeating argument than calling the Democratic Party 'far left'. It is such an objectively, transparently false and frankly laughable statement I am baffled anyone can type it with a straight face.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,671 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The same poster said a price being reduced from 100 to 10 is a thousand percent decrease. 😂 So honestly higher quality than previous statements.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,383 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It always shows a fundamental inability to grasp very basic things when some MAGA types tells us the Democrats are far left without any kind of argument whatsoever. I'd be happy to ditch my usual asking for proof shtick just to see if there's any cogent argument but of course there is none and likely never will be.

    In any other country, it'd be insane if the best opposition to the current government was South Park.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,793 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Even Americans hate American beef - it’s the reason they’ve invented so many sauces to cover up the vile taste of growth hormones and the sh1te that was feed to the cattle when alive .

    Trump can go choke on a T-bone if he thinks Ireland will accept this muck - it will be Boston tea party version 2 if they ever try and land that vile substance they call beef in this country



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