Hamas strike on Israel

Seeing reports on X that the Houthis are asking Arab countries to let their soldiers march across to get to Israel and Gaza to engage in a ground offensive. Puts the likes of Jordan and Saudi Arabia in a tricky spot.

The bit you won't say out loud.

How'd you think that'd go marching across the desert at Israel? If their commander in chief gives the go ahead he's on the Israeli payroll. Talk about fish in a barrel.

The attack by Hamas on October7th shattered Israeli perceptions of military invincibility. Once you feel vulnerable to being attacked your sense of security is gone. Iran went on to cause damage to key infrastructure like the port in Haifa again reinforcing vulnerability.

The second reason is diplomatically Israel is a pariah state. The world will never forget or forgive the genocide it is carrying out in Gaza.

Thirdly the Israeli economy is on it's knees. Eilat is out of commission. Haifa is badly damaged. Israel as an economic party is damaged goods and trading with it will be frowned upon.

Settler colonial projects which is essentially what Israel is can only succeed once people want to move there and live there. People are fleeing Israel. Just ask the Cypriots. Their will never be peace in the middle east as long as Israel continues to exist. The existence of Israel required the Jews to subjugate the Palestinians which was a recipe for disaster from the get go. The whole project was built on quicksand.

I have no wish to see Jews or Israeli forcibly moved from what is now called Israel. If they are willing to live in peace alongside the natives of the land as equals in lets say a country called Palestine great. Can we expect the Palestinians to accept having Jews living in a free Palestine well that's not for me to say?

I'm only relaying what I see on X. In theory yes in a desert against air power they'd be easy pick off. All that being said the feeling is the IDF are stretched to the limit, tired and demoralised.

Nobody is invincible. I don't think your analysis reflects reality. A quick Google would reveal Haifa port is back fully operational. It was indeed hit but it's a huge port and hitting it with a missile was never going to affect it for long.

I guess time will tell on the economics side. My gut feeling is they'll not crumble. I can't see the Jewish population declining after the war is over. It'll continue to increase from high birth rates and inward migration from other Jews.

The damage suffered by Iran was ridiculously higher. Their entire command decimated, air defence wiped out and strike capability degraded. Not to mention the damage to the nuclear program. If Israel wanted they could have neutralised it's ability to produce oil and gas as well. They had them by the balls. And the have America by the balls so they'll never truly run out of military equipment. You be assured they've largely restocked.

As for your last paragraph what would you propose? A single state of Palestine with free movement for everyone whether Jew or Muslim? Who'd control the military?

I saw today that unless Haifa port is repaired Israel will experience fuel shortages. Again with the lack of clear information coming out of Israel it's hard to know what's true or not. That also speaks to how much damage either Iran or Israel suffered. Both nations surpressed information for both morale purposes and security.

A single state of Palestine for sure with free movement. The two keys stumbling blocks would be could the Palestinians be prepared to live alongside those that supported their genocide. Secondly would the Israeli's who chose to remain denounce Zionism. The military would have to be based on ethnic percent of population. The only hope Israel had to survive as a state in perpetuity was to be truly egalitarian. But that was never the intention of the Zionists who see Palestinians as the Nazi's saw Jews. A truly tragic lack of self reflection.

Oh yeah, as soon as the hostages are handed back Israel is just going to retreat, walk away and rebuild Palestine.

Israel is as evil as it gets, stop believing their propaganda.

The Palestinians are far more sinned against in the M/East by Israel than vice versa so for me whether Jews could live alongside Palestinians is a mute point. Your asking that question would suggest you see it as a 50:50 blame game. That's ok difference of opinions are healthy once argued respectfully.

I don't think Israel was ever truly democratic due to the Zionist ideology that underpinned it's existence since 1948.

No it's truly democratic for only Jewish people in Israel so by our standards it's not truly democratic.

In terms of blame game if you go off deaths and injuries alone Israel will get the lions share of it. But in these wars the loser will often suffer a lot more. If HAMAS etc were the superior force they'd have less losses than the Israeli's.

It's better to look at these situations from an ideological point of view. There's no denying Jews have been far more sinned against overall by the European powers mainly Germany and by Muslims if you want to talk absolute numbers. You hardly expect putting them under the control of Palestinians would work out well for them? History suggests it doesn't.

There's only two realistic options here a 2 state solution or a 1 state solution. It didn't go too well in Lebanon between Muslims and Christians I can't see a 1 state attempt going well in reality with Israeli's and Palestinians having a lot more bad blood then in Lebanon.

All things being right it should but it won't. That leaves a 2 state solution and for the sake of humanity I hope it happens.

I don't care what you think.

This is the fourth time Macron has announced he would recognize Palestine this year Starmer giving strong words because the media is now covering forced starvation and voters are getting upset.

As the strongly worded letter was released the spy plane was on it's way to Gaza as it does everyday and last weekend the head of Israel's air force was being wined and dined by the RAF at an air show.

https://x.com/NizMhani/status/1948361095842082928?t=5IjVbW2qKib4mGBYjyPocg&s=19

122 International aid organisations say that Israel is purposely starving Gazans (including at least one Israeli also)

The only one to say Israel isn't...... Israel...

Hmmm, I wonder who is lying....