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Calf to beef thread

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  • #1292
    lmk123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭lmk123


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123551272#Comment_123551272

    vitulix



  • #1293
    kk.man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,318 ✭✭✭kk.man


    See Dower house farms has a problem with lameless in bulls. I'm not on utube but aquadine tablets in water troughs is brilliant.



  • #1294
    dmakc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭dmakc


    If the current market persists, what might I be hoping for in a Sept sale of AAX and HEX (mostly Feb/Mar born) on 1.5kg per day and good grass in front of them.



  • #1295
    cute geoge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123588527#Comment_123588527

    The best of them 3/4 month aa/hex at present are making 700 awould 800 be in aroundnd stronger Janurary born are not making much more so would 800 be a realistic price



  • #1296
    funkey_monkey
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123566170#Comment_123566170

    What lameness issues does Aquadyne overcome? It's a form of iodine supplementation?



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  • #1297
    tractorporn
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    Did anyone make it to any of the calf care events last week. I wanted to go to the local one but I was in France last week? Was there anything we could be putting into practice?



  • #1298
    kk.man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,318 ✭✭✭kk.man


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123593172#Comment_123593172

    Foul-in-the-foot, also known as foot rot, is a bacterial infection that causes lameness in cattle, primarily affecting the soft tissue between the claws of the foot. The foot would swell and animal unconformable to walk with it.

    I always had a case of two or 3 every year at grass. It didn't set them back much but the expense of noraclav and injecting them up to 5 days on the trot was no joke. If he was near finishing I'd have to watch withdrawal dates.



  • #1299
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Listen: Young farmer with 170 cattle on a 100% leased farm



  • #1300
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Listen: Young farmer with 170 cattle on a 100% leased farm


    https://open.spotify.com/episode/7jCKNYqAcskqnHx4nicnQx?si=N0xzyH2jRcK2xTqfQOOUEQ&context=spotify%3Ashow%3A2KEzytHGnFUWW29V45TM0E



  • #1301
    Siamsa Sessions
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123594725#Comment_123594725

    Just listened to it. Fair play to him. I even took a few notes.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



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  • #1302
    Kevhog1988
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123594725#Comment_123594725

    He is some operator



  • #1303
    kk.man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,318 ✭✭✭kk.man


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123596785#Comment_123596785

    The financials are adding up at the moment and I've no doubt he's doing well but after paying rent would be the real measure. Fair play it's no ordinary undertaking.



  • #1304
    Tibulus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Tibulus


    Great listen, fair play to him running a good system. Would go as far as saying I'll listen to it a second time with a pen and paper in hand opposed to driving. Or even make the journey 2.5 hour if he ever has a farm walk.

    Interesting how he manages the purchasing in Q1 on 20 hours a week, marts take time. Although he is in dairy country, expect lots of good dairy Angus crosses about.

    Significant money spent on farm roads and infrastructure, hope he is well covered with owner.



  • #1305
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123596785#Comment_123596785

    his day job is a teagasc dairy advisor on the kk/waterford border

    A discussion group I’m in had him facilitate a meeting last week. He was super I thought. Very practical about issues on the farm that hosted the meeting



  • #1306
    Siamsa Sessions
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123597964#Comment_123597964

    I didn’t want to say it, but you get a sense he’s a Teagasc advisor alright.

    Interesting in that context that he dismissed red clover (for silage) and MSS.

    Still worth listening to thou

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • #1307
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,710 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123598376#Comment_123598376

    Had a listen to it. It shows the risk associated with buying stock after selling stock. Having said that from the figures given he needs 1 approx 1.35/ kg more this year than last year. He should achieve that I imagine with him selling last Autumn until after Christmas he probably avreaged approx 5.70-6 euro/ kg. However he will need to average above 7/ kg to cover extra cost of replacements

    HHe US not actually doing anything drastic with silage 75DMD is achievable in a simple 2 cut system

    I am not sure about the farm roadway but if it was put in with farm grant it's probably fairly reasonable. After that it's fencing and grass

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #1308
    Tibulus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Tibulus


    As a dairy teagasc advisor would be in lots of dairy yards through the year, know what lads keep a few calf's on. Buy in batches from reliable dairy farmers. No having to trawl through marts.

    My take away what that he taught red clover didn't work for his system. All in the one block and grazing after grass.



  • #1309
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,710 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123599483#Comment_123599483

    He taught red clover silage did not work, he uses some red clover in grazing mixes. He was not interested in multi species swards either

    Slava Ukrainii



  • #1310
    Sami23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Sami23


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123600042#Comment_123600042

    From what I see all that Multi Species is is dirt



  • #1311
    DBK1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭DBK1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123600059#Comment_123600059

    As a baling contractor I’ll second that. I’d sell the stock and lease the land before I’d be persuaded to put that sh**e anywhere near my land.



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  • #1312
    Tibulus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Tibulus


    Interested to hear why @DBK1 @Sami23 ?

    Not an advocate or even considering sowing. Just interested.



  • #1313
    Siamsa Sessions
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123601513#Comment_123601513

    Fella on the podcast said it was mostly because you can’t apply a post-emergence spray on reseeds. And he didn’t want people thinking he was growing weeds on a rented farm.

    I tried a few acres of MSS in a reseed a few years back. It’s mostly docks now. I’m blaming the lack of post-emergence and not grazing it right. I still don’t know how to graze them! I’ll be reseeding it again when I get a chance. PRG and white clover only this time.

    Establishment first day, grazing management, and the various non-PRG grasses not lasting are all issues to be considered. But there’s others on here I’m sure with more knowledge than me.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • #1314
    Sami23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Sami23


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123601513#Comment_123601513

    Similar to what Siamsa said. The fields I've seen of it are destroyed with docks and thistles and actually I said to one of the lads will ya spray that bloody field n his response was I can't as it will kill the MSS. I'll post a picture of one of the fields when I get a chance.



  • #1315
    tractorporn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123601513#Comment_123601513

    I've reseeded 5 acres of pure rush into mass, my thinking was that the scheme paid for the seed, lessened the pain of reseeding. If it starts to get infested with docks I'll have no problem spraying it and still have new grass.



  • #1316
    limo_100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭limo_100


    folks I being looking round for some reared calves and have found 20 up the country for 850euro about 140kg average. Is it too expense for aa and he heifers? would prefer bulls but I can made this work with heifers also. I don't have to put 20 but could do with 10 - 20 anyway as I have 8acres reseeded a few weeks ago and will be ready for grazing in less than a month and them type stock would be best suited to it. But I don't want to buy gold too expensive either, what's peoples opinion on this?

    IMG_2192.jpeg

    That’s the reseeded where they would be going.



  • #1317
    Siamsa Sessions
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123666758#Comment_123666758

    Have you had those type of animals before? If yes, then it might be worth buying them.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • #1318
    limo_100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭limo_100


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123666887#Comment_123666887

    yeah of course reared calves on and off over 30years. just wondering if that's too big of a price for them or is it about right



  • #1319
    Siamsa Sessions
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123667322#Comment_123667322

    If you can get a bust of them to 500kg by Sept-2026, then at 250kg DW and stress-test price of €6.50, then you’ve €1,625 to work with. Take off your €850 purchase price and there’s €775 to cover the rest of the costs and a few bob for yourself

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • #1320
    kk.man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,318 ✭✭✭kk.man


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123666758#Comment_123666758

    Probably a tad on the expensive side but if cattle hold they could be grand. We're they well reared ie age for weight?

    There was no bullocks sub 300 in Thurles on Monday in fact v difficult at this time of the year to source. In kilkenny today hex 265kg made 910 dob oct 24 and fr 260kg 820e dob Feb 24. If I was u I be buying them. Hardship gone out of them plus sickness and if weather turned bad later no rush to get them in.



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  • #1321
    limo_100
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123667409#Comment_123667409

    They would be much better valve in fairness but I was looking at the weights and every mart with 250kg hex and AAx cattle (bulls and heifers) where over 1000-1400 at that money they are out of my range but at 900 they would be much better value but I can't see them at that money watched bandon and tipp mart any calf over 120kg was making 900 amazing money for small stock. cattle have moved on this week and hard to see the prices rolling back much over the coming months.

    Also seen dairy cross heifers sold locally yesterday.

    IMG_2216.jpeg


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