Dublin Airport New Runway/Infrastructure.

But they no longer want it as a car park or any car access. It's a waste of a useful area. I'd say knock them down and extend T1 into that space

Where did you get it's used for exec parking from? The DAA exec offices aren't in the terminal.. They are in the office blocks at Dublin airport central.

You're wasting your time. Dublin only has 1/3 of the population which means the majority of the population aren't in it.

But because govt policy has been getting decades to drive everything into Dublin it means Dub has built up a momentum and economy of scale that makes it almost impossible to shift any of that traffic elsewhere.

These also been events like Brexit and lockdown to extinguish any alternatives.

It's not that is the only way of doing it. But many people can only see what's in front of them.

Dub is busting at the seams due to the lack transport infrastructure around it, and across Dublin in general. Having to to take rollercoaster ride, clinging for dear life on a bus, in the middle of field to find your car says all you need to know about that.

Can't see any of it changing for decades yet.

It's a different commercial world now. It's hard to see how any regional airport can get off the ground now. But some niche will turn up. That's what happens.

They could claim that, but its deceptive to do so. Take it actually out of use - make the airport CEO etc park out the back of the Radisson like the other staff do and get the shuttle bus in - before telling planners it's out of use!

That was ABP not planners.
FCC previous decision was cover at the time in the thread. DDA didn't give a reason to demolish. They tried to be cute withholding the planned development, so was declined. It was a bad application was i'm not surprised ABP upheld it.

Not at all. They've no merit to be retained. They if there was a reason for demolishing given, it would probably be approved.

It is a waste of useful area. And could be used to benefit the airport.

But in typical DAA genius fashion, they excluded the actual future use of the area from the application.
So on paper, it was an application to knock them down, and do nothing with the area. No extension, not facade upgrade. On that basis, with no reason to knock them down, there's no reason to approved the development.

Can anyone tell me what to do about the increase in noise. I am hearing it more loudly and regularly at night. I have put in 3/4 noise complaints to the DAA without any response. I have an Autistic son who has sensory issues and this noise freaks him out. This is all bourne out of the change of direction towards Ashbourne with the flight paths so before I get well you shouldnt buy near the airport when I bought no planes were supposed to be out this way

The issue is they aren't always adhering to the flight path or height. They will argue operational reasons, weather etc. But they have a long history of pushing the boundaries on this. Ask for forgiveness before permission etc. They've been at this for decades.

Join some of the groups working on theses issues. But I don't think it's going to change. No matter where you move to in Leinster they could reroute over you.

In fairness it's a thread about developments at Dublin airport, you could create a new thread addressing the concerns..

So I’m going to jump in on this and say something that isn’t common knowledge, but the turn immediately after departure from 28L at Dublin, for many airlines including Aer Lingus, Ryanair and BA is an autopilot only departure as a response to the complaints about flights deviating too often when the runway first opened.

Meaning pilots must engage the autopilot at the earliest opportunity, so 5 seconds in an Airbus, or about 400ft when conditions allow. Some flights may deviate ever so slightly for airlines without the same SOP, but 99% of the time there is no deviation to the published SID’s.

This isn’t an attack on you by any stretch, but if you hear something so much, you believe it and flights just dipping left and right at will isn’t a thing and never really had been.

I didn't hear anything, I read the DAA statements and reports on it. According to the DAA data its 5%. You seem to suggesting they are wrong about their own measurements.

Can't have to both ways, they are either on autopilot with 99% accuracy or they aren't.

I only looked up to see what are the penalties for deviating. I couldn't find any. Maybe its listed somewhere else. Also came up in at least one of those programs about it.

My conclusion from all of it, was there little anyone can do if a busy flight plan is moved over their house.

Didn't realize DAA own statements are opinions. The document you've attached shows a lot more deviation than 1% or the 5% in the DAA comments.

I wasn't inferring the airport pushing boundaries causes deviations. I was saying they keep pushing the airport beyond it's planning with no penalty. It's not judgement it's just how it is. It's all monitored and recorded by the book. That's how we have the data.

But you can predict the future based on what happened in the past. So this trend of the airport expanding and routing changing and expanding is inevitable.

Complaining about the noise or the routing is like shouting at the tide coming in.

I've lived under an older routing of the airport and lived near Heathrow with a heavies passing overhead. Older aircraft which were seriously loud. But I still think being under the modern aircraft is flipping loud.

The airport is only going to get busier and bigger.

This is also part of the misunderstanding...autopilot has nothing to do with it, they can change heading using the autopilot. If a big dirty CB is sat on the SID, they are forbidden from staying on the SID.

There will be days when no-one can stick to the full SID for hours on end and need non standard routings and vectors to get out. I hope these are not being allowed skew the statistics.