Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 14/08/25*

I accept this point of Irish people and jobs like caring and cleaning.

However, are there not EU sources of labour to fill these jobs, rather than non-EU?

There are 13 million unemployed in the EU.

Yes, correct.

I suggest removing 80,000 UKR after BOTP ends, and removing tens of thousands of AS, to make space for returning Irish.

I suggest attracting Irish building workers to return, by offering them a decade of no income tax, as long as they work in new house construction for the decade.

Another emotionally driven response, instead of reason. It's not me the one preventing debate, you cannot tolerate opinions that are not similar with your own, and that's the point of debate, because if you only debate with people you agree with then that not really debating.

Over 21800 rental properties all over the country are in the ARP scheme to house Ukrainian refugees according to official figures provided to SF’s Matt Carthy.

There are 1425 in Mayo.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/private-properties-used-to-house-ukrainian-refugees-rise-by-17-per-cent-figures-show-1785044.html

Daft has just 25 rentals in Mayo today. Bad all over the country.

The situation that you recently discovered is hugely affecting young Irish people still in the country. They are unable to find rentals. Many people living abroad have no real grasp of the problems this is causing.

I can’t believe this sham is continuing again this year for the forthcoming college year. My brother is currently trying to secure student accommodation for his daughter in Galway. The prices for 5 nights accommodation in a family home somewhere where they are letting out a room is around €800. If you want the complete luxury of being able to stay for weekends too and live with other young people, he’s thinking it’ll probably be around €1200 per month somewhere. Not to mention the extra he’ll have to fork out for spending money/living expenses, and tuition fees. Luckily he should be able to afford it, but there’s many other families who would really struggle to send a child(ren) away to college.

Meanwhile, Ukrainian students get their tuition fees waived, get a monthly stipend of €900 per month (was previously €1,150 pm), and can avail of free accommodation under the ARP.

While families of Irish students must be assessed for eligibility for the SUSI grant, these Ukrainian students are given this package no questions asked - be they childen of doctors, professors, CEOs, etc. There’s something seriously wrong with this.

I take it you don't hold the view that high net inward migration, such as we allow in Ireland, pushes up rents and uses up available accommodation.

Joke it is.

There's about 64,000 Ukrainians over the age of 20 here. Looking at the stats there's about 26,000 working. Doesn't say part time, full time? a median wage of about 500 a week. (Fair play to them anyway)

Given all the freebies of ARP, accommodation, new build estates costing nearly half a million per modular home, education, travel passes, heavily subsidised bills , childcare, healthcare, child benefit , pensions, jobseekers, free language studies, **** sake even a new engine for a BMW and whatever else on the list?

The pittance of tax they are paying doesn't even put a dent in what they are getting in return. And if allowed to stay probably wouldn't break even in my lifetime.

There's still close to 40,000 over 20's sitting around doing **** all.

And I'm sure it's not unreasonable to think that many are sending wads of taxpayers cash home to family members still in Ukraine.

Unreal.

Agree. Thousands of landlords chose the ARP option as a result of government policy and it’s easy to see why. It’s not the fault of Ukrainians who availed of everything provided by the government from taxpayers funds, but that scheme reduced the number of properties to rent for everyone else.

I support giving help to people fleeing wars, but fewer available rentals are a direct consequence of the high number of refugees that arrived into the country.

Are any Ukrainian children having to pay any college fees or is it true that they will get accommodations paid for them without means testing unlike Irish parents who have to pay?