Thinking of moving to EV

The OP is rocking in a dark corner after reading this thread.

"EV works for those willing to put up with much less range and much longer fill up times and will adapt to suit.

ICE works for everyone because of the much greater range and much shorter fill up times. "

More blanket statements, as sweeping as they are inaccurate.

The 400km range in my EV means the car is capable of going for longer than I want to drive non-stop. I don't want to spend an uninterrupted 4.5-5 or more hours behind the wheel at any time, let alone on a regular basis. I've definitely done more than 4 in the past, but I'm trying to be a bit more sensible in middle-age. So even if I had one of the EVs with 500+km range, I would still want to stop for a break regardless, which would happen even before reaching the 20% SOC in a car like that. Nowadays, between three and (at most) three and a half hours would be my limit before taking some kind of break. That duration of a drive gets me from my end of the island, just shy of the north coast, to Portlaoise, which in my car would still leave me some 70-80km of range. So on any trip outside the range of the EV, taking a break by that point would tie in perfectly well with a charging stop.

Now on a specific 440km trip we often do, sometimes myself and my other half share the driving - that's where the length of break we take would be shorter in an ICE car than in an EV - but you're only talking 10-15 minutes longer in the EV on a drive of that duration. Can I live with doing that 8 or 10 times in a year for the sake of a cleaner car, no more diesel, ~80% reduction in fuel costs, better acceleration and overtaking ability? Somehow, I'll find the inner strength.

Does ICE work for everyone? Really? Not me. I'm sure glad I'll never have to pay for a clutch replacement again, or an intercooler replacement, or an EGR valve getting clogged, or fuel injectors developing a fault, or get an exhaust welded/replaced, or top up with AdBlue, or even replace fuel/oil/air filters. I'm glad I no longer have the mental load of swiping through apps like Pumps.ie to try and find the cheapest place to fill up when I'm covering 35000km a year (at least as much of a burden as checking ZapMap for a charger). Looking at things from the other side of the road, all those things would have to become non-issues for me to consider moving from EV to ICE.

Other than those long-distance journeys, all our charging is done when the car is parked up outside the house, so your point about much longer fill-up times is misleading - you should include the phrase "for the small minority of people without the means to charge at home" when you say that. I just looked up the percentage of homes in Ireland which have private parking - it's at least 70%, and might be as high as 86%. So that means the significant majority of households in Ireland could have the means to charge at home, if they want.

an ev wont be any different to any new car in terms of technology (except its easier to drive), ICE or EV most are mostly screen based with features you wont have had on the volvo. Most of the stuff you will set once and forget anyway youll still have wipers, headlights etc etc.

what interest rate are renaut doing on PCP for the 5?

There's a lot to be said for keeping your diesel if it is going well. Most 08 diesels and many newer one on the used market are in sh1te. You'd cost yourself a lot of money by buying any new car so would want to be very sure that it is what you want and not some sort of whim. Given your relatively low mileage, fuel savings from going EV won't be that much. A poster estimated that your Volvo uses 9.0 litres per 100 km - i'd be astounded if it was that bad. My diesel Megane of about the same age averages about 4.5 litres per 100 km. I've never seen close to 9, even at 140 km/h on a mway.

And nobody should be dismissing your comments about getting used to an EV/new tech. There's a lot of that type of stuff in here - and posters sneering about Mad_Lad's manual petrol Kia. I've driven loads of examples of all fuel types, including recently and back to back and have concluded that, regardless of fuel type or engine size, I prefer manual transmissions. I also strongly dislike screens in cars and don't like electric handbrakes.

And none of that has anything to do with the nonsense claim that Volvo C30 diesels consume 9 litres per 100 km. You accusing me of lying again? We can all stalk each others posts and do that. I notice that you and your buddies on here do that a lot with Mad_Lad, name calling and dragging up stuff from unrelated threads to try to have a go at him because you can't refute his points. Some real nasty, bullying behaviour on here.

I have found the thread in question and Mad_Lad did indeed advise about the luancy of a 350 km daily commute and was also the go to poster for anything related to EVs.

As for my circumstances and what i've posted on other forums about showers or anything else.it may surprise you Mr Finglas but people live different lives, have different careers different attitudes, different commutes and are both wealthier and more frugal than you are. FYI, apart from hypercars costing millions, I could go out and buy any new car I wanted to in the morning including a Tesla Model S or a Dacia Sandero. i could 10 years ago too. If you can't get your head around that, that's your problem.

Yet you still wipe your a*se with a face cloth to save the shower expense. Something doesn't compute here. You're full of sh1te Brian, sorry.

I used to get 150 MPG in mine😂

That's very much a case of you don't suit the EV rather than the EV not suiting you.

It's not the EVs fault you are inventing mad reasons to make her life more difficult.

You choose to send the wife out by herself to the local petrol station for an hour every day because you choose not to install a charger.

You also choose not to let her use the free home charger you got in the boot of the car that would also charge it up over night.

It's the same as preventing her from buying a certain brand of petrol and making her drive to a station and 30 mins away.