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Donald Trump the Megathread part II

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  • #28142
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,519 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123654672#Comment_123654672

    In today's "there's always a tweet"...

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #28143
    soverybored1878
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 243 ✭✭soverybored1878


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123657502#Comment_123657502

    I got through about 25 seconds of that video before my blood began boiling and I had to switch it off.



  • #28144
    looksee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,194 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I got the impression that most of those people were willing to parrot buzz words but really could not articulate what they thought they were trying to say. It doesn't make them any less dangerous as other people will accept these word-salad arguments as wisdom, but most of them had no real idea of what they were talking about, and managed to make themselves look shallow and pretty stupid.



  • #28145
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,190 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123658647#Comment_123658647

    You should watch through at least 1 of the people debating against him. As one of the most liked comments under the video says, "This is why they are going after the Dept of Education". An ignorant populace is absolutely ripe for manipulation.

    Bear in mind also that these are the people who were outraged in 2020/21 at being accused of being fascist, now they're wearing it as a badge of honour. Greg Gutfield said on FoxNews that they need to learn from black people and reclaim the word Nazi by saying things to each other like "What's up my Nazi" to normalize it. He would claim to have been speaking sarcastically but I don't think any close watchers would think that that is the case, these are the people he was talking to. If you lessen the intensity of words like Nazi and Fascist then you can provide people with the ability to wave off accusations of being so ideologically motivated. And here's the kicker, when you're doing this, you can actually promote fascist behaviour because you have undermined a key way people are held to account for that, being identified as such.

    But we have to watch it, and get angry about it, because these people exist and they're in the US, and the UK, and Ireland, and France and everywhere else and they think that they are the ones whose time is coming. The only thing that I think we know for sure now, or at least with a lot more certainty, is how the Nazis convinced so many in Germany to support their cause. Not everyone who did was truly evil, at first, but they thought that they were finally being heard. These are the people that Trump spoke to and will continue speaking to (health permitting (which I've fingers crossed for if you know what I mean)) and who Nigel Farage most definitely is speaking to in a very forceful way. This is why I don't give people who I think tolerate these views an inch of leeway in debates on here. The justification of hate facilitates only more hate and we've already seen too much how quickly that can spread.



  • #28146
    soverybored1878
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 243 ✭✭soverybored1878


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123658864#Comment_123658864

    Very well said.

    It's not only the hate spewing out of these people, it's just the pig ignorance of them. 'I am a Native American' - that made me sick.



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  • #28147
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,519 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    And why is Trump attacking him?

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    Personally, I think there is nothing new in the Epstein files.

    Maybe there is, and the Dems didn't want it released before now because there's stuff in there pertaining to them, and now they are cornered and have to push for the release.

    Either way, what is most noteworthy, is if you look at Trump's behaviour, does it appear to you that there's nothing there concerning him, or does it look like he's absolutely petrified that they will be released?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #28148
    Del Griffith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Del Griffith


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123659231#Comment_123659231

    Doesnt need to be him personally, can just as easily be someone else pulling the strings and putting pressure on him, possibly even a foreign intelligence agency who knows.

    I doubt he's actually in anything but the flight logs or whatever, we have Virginia Roberts Giuffre testimony that he wasnt really involved. But yea, there is definitely a reason he doesnt want them released now.



  • #28149
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123659231#Comment_123659231

    I agree with you , I don't think there is anything directly incriminating for Trump in the information.

    But, he will be mentioned many many times over a very long period of time and will have been "adjacent" to various unsavoury incidents which will open him up to all kinds of scrutiny , not least of which will be "You had to have known what he was up to , why didn't you do something to stop him??" .

    And to the MAGAs for whom "draining the swamp" and "saving the children from the Pedo Elite" is a core belief , that could be terminal..



  • #28150
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,294 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123657502#Comment_123657502

    That's a weird way to hold any kind of debate. It's just endless verbals and mantras with nothing really getting across. What's revealing, though, is the sheer level of ignorance on display, coupled with the masks eventually falling from the faces that Medhi is talking to. It's notable that the 20, so called, "conservatives" are all quite young. I don't know whether that was by design or whether that happened organically.

    The value, I suppose, of the whole exercise is in showing the warped mindset of some Americans, with some truly scary levels of depth of depravity being exhibited. Someone even identified as a fascist.

    Incredible.



  • #28151
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,203 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123659391#Comment_123659391

    Even seeing more coming to the surface about model competitions Trump was a judge for (not just Miss Teen USA, the ones where he owned the competition and used that as an excuse to go backstage as the teen girls were changing).

    https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1946314087450964393

    The Guardian article mentioned:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/14/teen-models-powerful-men-when-donald-trump-hosted-look-of-the-year



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  • #28152
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,519 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123659421#Comment_123659421

    Well, Trump did tell Howard Stern that he did have an age limit of 12, so these 14 year olds are "getting on" in his view…

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #28153
    Stanley 1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123658457#Comment_123658457

    He might well go for another assassaination attempt, first one went well, helped people were shot dead and others injured, major distractions all round and he got the result, others didn't get result they hoped for.



  • #28154
    thatsdaft
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,541 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123659929#Comment_123659929

    I dunno I suspect bombing some poor buggers in Middle East again might do the trick



  • #28155
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,519 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123658864#Comment_123658864
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    If you watch his contribution, you'll know why.

    The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed…

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #28156
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,564 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123659421#Comment_123659421

    Yikes. And they called Biden a creep



  • #28157
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,943 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123659985#Comment_123659985

    Every accusation is an admission.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #28158
    Penn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,203 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123659973#Comment_123659973

    Unfortunately he's already gotten 16k+ in donations (probably increased since I read it this morning), and will likely start to make a living as a right-wing influencer (which may have been part of his plan already).



  • #28159
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123659973#Comment_123659973

    I haven't watched the whole thing but I've seen a few clips with this particular guy and in one clip Mehdi Hasan says "You don't really sound like a traditional right wing conservative , you're something else, you are a fascist" to which the guy replies "Yes ,yes I am" and in another clip he says that his preferred form of government is Autocracy.



  • #28160
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,519 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    A House Oversight subcommittee has approved a motion to direct the full committee chairman to issue a subpoena for Jeffrey Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell. 

     

    The motion was offered by Republican Rep. Tim Burchett.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #28161
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123660133#Comment_123660133

    She's in prison , can she be compelled to appear?

    I mean it's not like they can threaten her with contempt or anything and I'd also assume that she'd plead the 5th for pretty much everything in the absence of some kind of deal for immunity/sentence reduction.



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  • #28162
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123660116#Comment_123660116

    Yep, over 20k at last view according to reports with contributors saying stuff like this

    “We need a white nation! It’s our only future! Vive le Fascisme,” one donor wrote while contributing $88. 

    $88 , a very specific number for a very specific reason..They really are screwed there.



  • #28163
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Jayus Trump still going on about the stollen election ffs. Biden is really living rent free in his head.



  • #28164
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,479 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123659973#Comment_123659973

    I am still worried by how the lack of understanding of consequences leads to this.

    He basically glorified his views…now he is crying foul. What a moron.



  • #28165
    everlast75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,519 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123660141#Comment_123660141

    Not sure, but it means that Epstein is still in the headlines, and still dominates his press time, and utterly pi$$es him off.

    Long may it continue.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • #28166
    EltonJohn69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,937 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    so Trumps big card to play is to pardon ghislaine maxwell ? Midas Touch speculated that it is her that leaked the trump Epstein birthday letter and is applying pressure for a release.



  • #28167
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,564 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Is Maxwell facing any charges outside of the US? I'm legit curious about that, and if she was how would that work? Say if for instance she was pardoned by the child molester in chief; yet was wanted by British authorities. How are both countries gonna finagle that? Extradition treaties exist.

    Although with Starmer in power I wouldn't be surprised to see it all just ignored or explained away



  • #28168
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,087 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    David Frum on Twitter… I said something similar on the thread a few days ago.

    The Trump administration is so corrupt they are well capable of this:

    Next acts of the drama:

    1) Trump pardons Ghislaine Maxwell

    2) Maxwell affirms Trump's version of events

    3) MAGA is astonished and offended that non-MAGA suspects a quid pro quo

    https://x.com/davidfrum/status/1947641142297645507

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #28169
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,042 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123660234#Comment_123660234

    If he pardons her , she can't plead the 5th if called to testify by congress..



  • #28170
    EltonJohn69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,937 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123660273#Comment_123660273

    she will go to congress and say it was all Clinton and Biden and Obama and then Trump pardons her…. The DOJ are all Trump loyalist, this is a scheme



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  • #28171
    jprender
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭jprender


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123660273#Comment_123660273

    she’ll just lie. Why not, nothing to lose.



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