Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Telling that “base” as you call it to essentially fck off, isn’t exactly keeping the team together now, is it? 😀

“Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore!””

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/16/politics/trump-epstein-weaklings-supporters

Trump is happy to throw a significant % of the voters that made up his overall majority under a bus - it’s likely no harm done as they are now way past their usefulness and have become an inconvenience to him - this is actually good news considering he’s already fallen out with Musk- if he keeps going he’ll have few supporters left and may well face an impeachment vote before his term is up handing victory to JD Vance

Apparently, on a channel sued for defamation for 780m, Trump thinks a hit piece is the same as a criminal prosecution, and congratulates - checks notes - the director of national intelligence for organizing it?

More Walter Mitty bullsh1t, or a weak as f*** attempt at distraction?

Trump has a long history of enjoying his base's unequivocal support to almost that Big Brother level where he could change his stance on something mid speech and they wouldn't bat an eye, so it's not exactly surprising he might think that he could change their attitude on the Epstein scandal with little more than a tweet.

That not being the case, all he can do is attempt to suppress any damaging material in existence and wait for the story to blow over and see how the land lies after that. I'd like to be proven wrong on this, but I think that if the files, such as they are, were to come out, they would have by now. It's likely not only Trump who would be implicated in such material, anyway, but a raft of rich, powerful people who each would have a strong interest in not seeing it be released and people on both sides of the aisle, making it perversely bi-partisan.

There also remains the problem (for them) that if Trump gets taken down by this, MAGA completely falls apart. JD Vance is a stuffed suit with zero personality. He couldn't marshall the following of boy scouts. Taylor Greene is just a screaming Karen. There isn't a single person within that movement who has a hope to control and unify it other than Trump, and even he is having difficulty right now.

“There also remains the problem (for them) that if Trump gets taken down by this, MAGA completely falls apart.”

If we go down that road of thinking, then it begs the question, who or what is keeping “MAGA” together? Who are the string pullers behind the scenes? Or indeed, what are they plotting now?

It’s Trumps last term, regardless what Trump will say- if Trump is essentially going awol or indeed, has also out lasted his usefulness, they’re likely working on a plan B to ensure the MAGA roadshow continues after his term ends/dies in office/gets impeached/becomes persona non-gratia and a dead duck president with no power - whatever happens first.

100%. And it's why the files weren't leaked by Biden. There is no 100% proof and given MAGAs ability to simply wave anything away as either a deep state conspiracy or simply ignore it I'm not sure what teaction it would have gained.

And 100% certain that had it leaked every Trump supporter would immediately call for the release of Hunters laptop. It's what they do. Everytime.

Everyone knows who and what Trump is. A flight log, birthday card or party invite isn't going to change that.

The man led an insurrection against the United States government and not one of these 'patriots' had a problem with it.

That's also fair but only reason I have doubts is there's no direct accusations in relation to minors directed at Trump ATM. But equally could just be scared as **** of coming forward given the maga base.

It's not a conspiracy theory. The files exist.

Not sure why you're so desperate to defend one of the worst people in history.

Anyone still team Trump and actively trying to retcon Epstein's association with him is never getting off the TrumpisGod teat.

But then again given they devoutly stood by him throughout the Carroll case I guess consent was never that important so why would age of consent matter either? I guess its consistent behaviour from his loyalists.

Well, they weren't fine at the time that he was being called a rapist and would retort that "he wasn't guilty of rape, he was just guilty of sexual assault", as if that made the situation any better. 🤣

Now that there's possibly more to it than…ahem…"just" sexual assault, there's an awful lot of head twisting going on in MAGA clownworld to try and square all the circles that are being raised with Trump's relationship with a known sex trafficker of underaged girls and Trump's about face on releasing the Epstein files. Something that was once a central tenet of MAGA's existence.

“How likely is it that this will take the wind out of the sails of the "Epstein" wing of Trump's support?”

That’s down to the democrats and the news media - if there’s one picture of a young teenager sitting on trumps knee there’s likely more- bring them on - if we don’t see clear action from investigative news reporters and democrats then “look over there” will creep in mighty quickly - they have limited time to act to keep this story going

Hard to tell really. MAGA need their golden idol cos they've invested too much time and effort into him for them to turn around and admit they fucked up royally. The sunk cost fallacy is real.

I'd say a lot of them will find some way to negotiate their way around all of this in their own heads, because having to come to terms with reality will be too much for them.

Dunno about deflection. Just makes him look even more like a pedophile.

Interesting new report on a long held idea that Trump is a Russian agent: