Donald Trump the Megathread part II

Being a friend or acquaintance of Epstein is not proof of having raped, or at least taken advantage of, teenage girls. After all, Peter Mandelson, who knew Epstein, can't be accused of having sex with girls because he's gay!

As for Bill Clinton, the females with whom he had interactions that were, to say the least, controversial, had already reached adulthood when those interactions took place.

Firstly, I'd be careful of assuming what Trump can or cannot do. He has absolutely no respect for rules or norms. He'll try anything he thinks he can get away with.

However, if we leave that aside, the base is Trump's great cudgel to wield. It's the thing which has constantly prevented the wider Republican party from abandoning him. It's more important than his money. It's hard power and control of the base has enabled him to practically make or break careers within the party via just a tweet.

If he loses that base, he becomes a non entity to the party and nothing more than a nuisance. He can then be left to his fate of pending criminal cases and lawsuits. As I cannot think that Trump wants to spend the last years of his life in poverty or imprisonment, he will do anything to hang on to the base, his great insurance policy.

Telling that “base” as you call it to essentially fck off, isn’t exactly keeping the team together now, is it? 😀

“Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore!””

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/16/politics/trump-epstein-weaklings-supporters

Trump is happy to throw a significant % of the voters that made up his overall majority under a bus - it’s likely no harm done as they are now way past their usefulness and have become an inconvenience to him - this is actually good news considering he’s already fallen out with Musk- if he keeps going he’ll have few supporters left and may well face an impeachment vote before his term is up handing victory to JD Vance

Apparently, on a channel sued for defamation for 780m, Trump thinks a hit piece is the same as a criminal prosecution, and congratulates - checks notes - the director of national intelligence for organizing it?

More Walter Mitty bullsh1t, or a weak as f*** attempt at distraction?

Trump has a long history of enjoying his base's unequivocal support to almost that Big Brother level where he could change his stance on something mid speech and they wouldn't bat an eye, so it's not exactly surprising he might think that he could change their attitude on the Epstein scandal with little more than a tweet.

That not being the case, all he can do is attempt to suppress any damaging material in existence and wait for the story to blow over and see how the land lies after that. I'd like to be proven wrong on this, but I think that if the files, such as they are, were to come out, they would have by now. It's likely not only Trump who would be implicated in such material, anyway, but a raft of rich, powerful people who each would have a strong interest in not seeing it be released and people on both sides of the aisle, making it perversely bi-partisan.

There also remains the problem (for them) that if Trump gets taken down by this, MAGA completely falls apart. JD Vance is a stuffed suit with zero personality. He couldn't marshall the following of boy scouts. Taylor Greene is just a screaming Karen. There isn't a single person within that movement who has a hope to control and unify it other than Trump, and even he is having difficulty right now.

“There also remains the problem (for them) that if Trump gets taken down by this, MAGA completely falls apart.”

If we go down that road of thinking, then it begs the question, who or what is keeping “MAGA” together? Who are the string pullers behind the scenes? Or indeed, what are they plotting now?

It’s Trumps last term, regardless what Trump will say- if Trump is essentially going awol or indeed, has also out lasted his usefulness, they’re likely working on a plan B to ensure the MAGA roadshow continues after his term ends/dies in office/gets impeached/becomes persona non-gratia and a dead duck president with no power - whatever happens first.

100%. And it's why the files weren't leaked by Biden. There is no 100% proof and given MAGAs ability to simply wave anything away as either a deep state conspiracy or simply ignore it I'm not sure what teaction it would have gained.

And 100% certain that had it leaked every Trump supporter would immediately call for the release of Hunters laptop. It's what they do. Everytime.

Everyone knows who and what Trump is. A flight log, birthday card or party invite isn't going to change that.

The man led an insurrection against the United States government and not one of these 'patriots' had a problem with it.

That's also fair but only reason I have doubts is there's no direct accusations in relation to minors directed at Trump ATM. But equally could just be scared as **** of coming forward given the maga base.

You know fine well that Epstein abused girls and that the Kincora victims were boys.

How?

I was discrediting the 'Epstein client list' conspiracy theory.

Anyone still team Trump and actively trying to retcon Epstein's association with him is never getting off the TrumpisGod teat.

But then again given they devoutly stood by him throughout the Carroll case I guess consent was never that important so why would age of consent matter either? I guess its consistent behaviour from his loyalists.