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The Open 2025 - Portrush

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭techdiver


    I think his issues off the tee the first two days has left him a little too far back. Scheffler is just coasting along.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭jesuisjuste


    I agree it's not farcical to propose, but remember Scheffler has only been playing at this level for about a year and a half, Tiger was at that level for 10-12 years, and still at a very high level for another 5 or 6. Rory was at that level himself for 3-4 years, and then still at a very high level for another 8-10 years or so, and I would say he's not finished yet. It's difficult at this time to say where Scheffler will end up over the next few years. Players like Spieth also had a similar trajectory but then fell off. It should be noted too that the PGA tour is a weaker field at the moment with some top players moving to LIV (although they also seemed to drop off there). Rahm, Dechambeou and Kaepka all could have likely maintained a stronger challenge if they had stayed on the PGA, although I still think Scheffler would dominate. In Tiger's era there were still some strong Europeans who didn't move to PGA, but for the most part he was playing the best in the world (as was Rory).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭big_drive


    Great round from Rory, probably a bit too far behind scheffler but he did all he could today really. Be interesting if somehow Scottie dropped a couple before finish today



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,066 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Scheffler is only in second gear. He should cruise from here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭techdiver




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭Martin567


    I agree but that's a completely different argument.

    I'm not suggesting he will ultimately be regarded as being as good as Tiger. Only time will tell about that.

    I'm disputing the viewpoint put forward by some that Scheffler's dominance is boring but Tiger's (which went on for much longer) was somehow exciting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭Shank Williams


    this guy isn’t losing from here- shame



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭Lip Out


    Rich Beem just described Scheffler's round (and his golf in general) as boring. Sure what would he know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 898 ✭✭✭thewobbler


    fwiw I stopped watching golf during Tiger’s peak years as it was boring. Every bit as boring as Sheffler from the front.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 766 ✭✭✭jesuisjuste


    Boring is not accurate, he is entertaining, but I would say he is not as exciting, yet at least. I mean Tiger was like lightning to watch. He was beyond the game itself, a whole persona. He fundamentally changed the game itself, and the entertainment factor to boot. Everybody followed him when he was playing, lay people and fans. I was at a couple of competitions he was playing at and it was mania following him. Scheffler has a very high skill level and a similar relentlessness, but he is not as exciting as Tiger was to watch.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,859 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Ill pass thanks.

    Have to say, course looked absolutely stunning today with the nice weather.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭crusd


    Have to say Scheffler is imperious but it’s remarkable the number of golfers who lose their heads on the course. Lowry of course, but Rahm, Hatton, Mcillroy and was it English who bounced the club. Losing their heads left right and centre while Scheffler remains calm and composed even when he hits a bit shot hence he recovers. It used not be this obvious. Back on the day when tiger was beating everyone the likes of Els, Goosen, Michelson, Harrington etc still held their heads together.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,999 ✭✭✭Russman


    Ya, I think its Scheffler makes them lose the head, insofar as they know he's not giving them anything, and any tiny mistake just puts him further out of reach. He's beatable, but they have to be absolutely perfect to do it and every mistake makes it worse. I suppose bar Rory, those others aren't really in the Els, Goosen, Mickelson, Harrington class, yet.

    In a way its a shame its as good as over, nobody is getting anywhere close to him tomorrow. Sky will big up the chances of the chasers but its done. Its probably a positive for Rory that he's top 10 given anyone would have to say he's been appalling off the tee this week. IMO to be where he is, is a testament to the rest of his game.

    Also a big shame that the majors are finished tomorrow until next April, I think that's just wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭Martin567


    If he was lightning, it was a lightning generated by the people watching and not by anything Tiger was doing.

    Tiger was an amazing player but when he was dominating he played extremely boring, conservative golf. He didn't take driver off the tee and always played to the centre of the greens. He took no risks.

    Objectively, there was no difference between Tiger's long dominance and Scheffler's more recent, shorter term form. Only difference is people's perception of each.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,882 ✭✭✭Golfgraffix


    I think there are some rose tinted glasses here.

    There is no doubt Tiger was amazing but he’s golf was ultra conservative. Looking back it’s easy to focus on the famous shots and forget that he very rarely went for flags.

    At 29 Scottie is playing amazing golf



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭Leslie Purkiss


    Did Rory have to consult with a rules official after he hit the buried ball? Interested to know the ruling on why it wasn’t a penalty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    I don't play golf, so excuse the question. On the news it showed that McIllroy had dug up and old ball while in the rough. Would it not be the case that before this type of event that they would make an effort to clear out old balls etc?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭AlanWatts


    It was the 'moments' with Tiger. The putts he made that mattered, the chip ins. The emotion, the adrenaline. Scheffler is playing better than Tiger. No need for the emotion. Last ten 54 hole leads 10 wins. Rahm is an idiot, could have been an amazing 2 years head to head.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,859 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    The old ball was buried, you really think they are going to scour acres upon acres of golf course, rough, etc to try to find buried balls from years ago?

    It was a one in a million happening, has never happened before and unlikely to happen again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,460 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Was a complete freak coincidence, the ball was sort of buried. Never seen this before and probably will never see this again.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,228 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Cracking day yesterday, somehow no rain. Mainly stayed at 13 green so could see 17 green too, front row seat (well, standing spot).

    Highlight easily the hole in one. Ended up talking to Nathan Kimseys mother, he was playing with Bryson....OH the embarrassed laugh after everyone shouted for Bryson then she shouted for him in the silence



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    I don't see why would not periodically remove litter etc from the course and if balls are concealed then a dog would find them. Would St Andrews or Augusta have balls lying around before a tournament?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,764 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    Why would it be a penalty. He tore through muck to reveal a buried ball. Never a penalty.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I've actually seen that before with a playing partner, and he instinctively caught the buried ball as it came back down, unreal

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,859 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    You're trying to find an issue where ones doesnt exist. The course is pristine, where exactly is the litter?

    Ill say again, that ball was buried. Its not like it was sitting in full view under a leaf. It could have been there for a year, or 30 years. Rorys ball was literally sitting on top of it, so it must have been at least a few mm under the surface, maybe more. And it was well off the course or usual playing area, remember it was a terrible lie.

    Id also guess St Andrews has such balls under the surface as well. Most links courses probably have. Perhaps not Augusta, as those are manicured to within an inch of their lives, they dont have the same rough, sand dunes, wind bushes, grass etc as links courses

    And if you send out a dog, how would it find such a hidden ball?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    I've done the same as McIlroy yesterday, except there was no ball that went 200 yds, just the one popping up and going 3 yds



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Most courses may have, my question was based on the idea that an especial effort would be made on a course hosting the Open. Dogs can dig up things, they have an excellent sense of smell. At some time in the past this ball was probably not as buried and a periodic tidying up would have found it. Too late now, in any case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,764 ✭✭✭hold my beer


    One of the most bizarre things I've ever read. Send in dogs to find balls buried under muck 🤣 comical



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,859 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Has Scheffler ever had a collapse before?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,840 ✭✭✭Xander10


    Would need to be arrested by the local PSNI driving to the start, to ruffle him....



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