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Donald Trump the Megathread part II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,284 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I would consider saying Ukraine is partially responsible for being invaded is a form of justification. And the vast majority agree that Ukraine is not remotely responsible for the invasion. You are pushing a propaganda line on it that posters who are sympathetic towards Russia tend to.

    The US, Ukraine and Europe are not responsible for the fact Putin had goals of expansionism. Correction on calling it a conspiracy theory though, it's a preferred line from Russian propaganda more than anything and largely rejected. Claiming we're secret agents for NGOs is pretty much a conspiracy theory though. 🤣

    In terms of me being irate. I believe I state how the US is behaving but it's not particularly irate. I don't tend to think it's good to put my head in the clouds on what's happening though. The US have elected a wannabe tyrant and you seem to struggle to recognize that fact.

    Have you any proof of posters on boards.ie being NGO employees hired to shape the narrative on US politics btw? Or you know, is it just made up?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,190 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Go blame Ukraine for the having been invaded on the thread for that conflict if you're so keen to talk about it.

    Your boy is failing badly, and the wheels are at risk of coming off for him with his behavior and relationship with Epstein coming more and more into the light.

    But all hope is not lost for him, or you, his attempt at deflection thus week by releasing statements on his health has drawn people's attention to how unwell he is so maybe that'll save him and you can talk about how he'd have done everything he promised but for health reasons.

    Your attempts at deflection are as obvious as his are at this point. Own your support for his presidency, its what you advocated for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,157 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    America has truly become a very sick country - doing this to their own citizens, ICE are certainly the enforcers of unlawfulness and disorder - sick bastards


    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/19/us/california-immigration-raid-george-retes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,047 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I wasnt the one who brought up Ukraine on this thread.

    Another poster was repeating his lies and trying to twist what I said about Ukraine so I was within my rights to call out his lies.

    Own your support for his presidency, its what you advocated for.

    Thats not true, he isnt my boy.

    I said on multiple occassions that I would prefer Trump didnt have a second term and I explained why.

    He is unhinged and his presidency so far has been chaotic, trying to get too much done too quickly and ruffling too many feathers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,233 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I couldn't be happier that Trump has given into his childish instincts and decided to sue Newscorp

    In fact, I can well imagine Murdoch and the WSJ people fully intended to goad him into doing so, and will be angling for an early court date, no settlement, and the airing in open court of the entire subject and Trump's proximity to it.

    Murdoch is worth 22 Billion dollars personally and Newscorp is capitalised at another 20 Billion. They can squash Trump like a grape if they wish. And as little love as I would have for a grifter like Murdoch, they do deserve each other, and I hope he does so.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,425 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    That lawsuit will never go to court, Trump is doing that for show. He won't want material related to this allegation to hit the public courtroom.

    He's really getting his diaper in a twist over this Epstein stuff. I can't imagine why.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,190 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Thats not true, he isnt my boy.

    This isn't fooling anyone. All it does, once again, is put you in the same boat as many right wing commentators in the US trying to distance themselves more and more from Trump. A damning indictment in itself as to how his term is going.

    You can support who you want, we all can. But we all can also judge someone for their advocacy. Trump, Brexit, anti-climate advocacy are all things that came about because people made choices. All these things have been demonstrably bad for society, it is entirely fair to comment on the motivations of those who helped bring these things about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,284 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    The amount of stuff that you're happy to forget about or ignore or deny would indicate he's very much so your boy. This includes but isn't limited to him calling for genocide, illegal deportations, attempting to extort the leadership of Ukraine to target his enemies (particularly ironic since you always accused Biden of weaponising the DOJ), burying the Epstein case and of course the fact he is a rapist. You think a sex offender is better than Kamala Harris would have been, that's pretty messed up particularly since you're not a supporter of his.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,175 ✭✭✭scottser


    That is simply not true. You have consistently blamed Ukraine/Nato/'The West' for antagonising Russia enough to invade. There is absolutely no justification for Russia invading Ukraine as a sovereign nation. So you can bang on all you like about Ukro Nazis, bio-weapons labs, Russian speakers, NATO encroachment and all the other bullshit that Solovyov and the likes spew up but really, all you're doing is giving kermit and brickster a chubby.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,047 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Bullshit.

    Consistently blamed, thats news to me, Ive mentioned the topic on a handful of occasions over the years, I dont post on the Ukraine thread.

    I never said there was "justification" for Russia invading Ukraine.

    I never once mentioned Ukro Nazis, bio-weapons labs, or Russian speakers, Ive no idea why you would think that.

    Show me the posts where I mentioned these even once.

    Ukraine and the West adopted a hardline policy with Russia, they poked the Bear and they have paid a very heavy price for it.

    Thats not justifying the invasion its just being pragmatic.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,076 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    This has no credibilty coming from a poster getting irate that Trump - someone they have numerous posts on this thread trying to defend, excuse, both sides away - is now being revealed not only as a rapist but implicated in a massive child abuse ring. Something which tallies with the numerous reports of Trump being a pervert around underage beauty contests.

    Now you move onto justifying with excuses and both sides nonsense Russia's invasion of Ukraine, where they have committed atrocities including rape and sexual abuse, including abduction of childen.

    No one needs any extra motivating factor than a functioning moral compass to call out Russia and Trump's vile conduct and lies. Yet you peddle conspiracy theories that other posters are only doing it as shills - all the while defending Trump the rapist and always being far more critical of his opponents and critics than of Trump. Repeatedly attacking Democrats with lies and conspiracy theory dog whistling about a 'deep state'.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,284 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Guess you'll have to put a lot of posters on ignore since it's a limited sum that actually agree with you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,047 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Are you blind, I havent justified any invasion of Ukraine, stop trying to twist what I have said.

    The way you talk in the feedback threads as if you are some arbiter of truth, you arent.

    You are the one with no credibility, you tried to shutdown any criticism of Biden or the Democrats over the last few years.

    Constantly deflect, deflect.

    You accused anyone of saying he was in cognitive decline of peddling conspiracy theories.

    Anything you didnt want discussed you claimed was conspiracy talk.

    Its a similar tactic to what Israel is using now, accuse someone of being antisemitic if they criticise Israel.

    Day in day out in the run up to the election you spewed your propaganda on here and tried to shutdown anything that indicated Trump would win.

    Well guess what, you were wrong then and you are wrong now, so dont say I have no credibility when I have been right on alot more matters than you and many others on this thread have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,076 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Yeah Im not blind its the standard both sides drivel to throw some blame on Ukraine. Always more critical of Ukraine than of Russia. Always more critical of Trumps critics than of Trump. Reveals where your preferences lies. You wanted Trump to win over the Democrats. You want Russia to win in Ukraine. You excuse their crimes. There is no unprompted criticism from you of their atrocities or of Trumps lies and conduct.

    Are you blind? Well it is laughable the number of blind spots you have about Trump. Where is one single post in this, the Trump thread, for politicising anti semitism to go after his political enemies. Yet you use weasel words to try to accuse me of similar conduct.
    When Trump has engaged in the actual conduct you pretend to be concerned about, and you've given him a free pass. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil - when it comes to Trump. Accuse his critics of every slur imaginable.
    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2025/apr/24/trump-antisemitism-universities-democrats-letter

    Deflect deflect deflect? From someone who defended Trump saying "I dont see any kids" then when presented with such photographs deflect by accusing posters of being paid shills.

    You have no credibility. Your posts are met with open derision on the thread as you are openly defending a rapist and a child sex pervert.

    You cant defend Trump with any credibility so all you do is cast aspersions on the motivations of those critical of Trump. Having to bring in Feedback threads ffs. Desperate drivel.

    Imagine thinking someone would have to be paid to be critical of a vile and dangerous politician like Trump. Laughable stuff.

    This is the guy you have hundreds of posts defending and excusing.

    A child sex pervert.

    I have posts defending Biden. Even an aging slowing Biden would be ten times safer a President than Trump who is dismantling US checks and balances.

    You even posted an article to this thread trying to defend Trump against accusations of being a fascist - it was obvious you hadn't read it except the headline. It included expert commentary putting forth credible arguments as to how he was a fascist, before concluding that he was a clear and present danger to democracy in America.

    That's who you are defending. A rapist, up to his neck in a child sex ring, bringing fascism to America.

    I have no regrets about which side I support and defend.

    Post edited by odyssey06 on

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,838 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Huh?

    At 1:45pm you literally wrote "Ukraine and the West were partly responsible for the invasion is what I said, which they were".

    You may not be justifying the invasion but you're apportioning blame to the victim. Do you pop down the Rape Crisis Centres and tell all the poor unfortunates that they are to blame for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. No doubt they were asking for it? It's not a justification but it's a scummy approach to blaming for an illegal and immoral deed.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,917 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It is justifying the invasion though. You can spin it however you want but your agenda is incredibly obvious.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,047 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    You are telling a pack of lies yet again.

    You want Russia to win in Ukraine. You excuse their crimes.

    Thats complete lies.

    I never once said or implied I wanted Russia to win because I dont, to say otherwise is defamation.

    You have no credibility. Your posts are met with open derision on the thread as you are openly defending a rapist and a child sex pervert.

    This thread is an echo chamber, its not reflective of the real world.

    Its an embarassment to the site where people with huge chips on their shoulders spew abuse on a daily basis about a man thousands of miles away.

    Cantankerous posters who are now trying to put words in my mouth, saying I support Russia in the war, or im a Putinbot.

    I categorically do not justify Russias invasion of Ukraine, how can I be any clearer.

    A child sex pervert.

    Thats your biased opinion, there is no definitive proof of that, you could get the site sued for saying stuff like that, yet again you are trying to frame your opinion as fact.

    You even posted an article to this thread trying to defend Trump against accusations of being a fascist - it was obvious you hadnt read it except the headline

    More lies, I did read the article, Trump isnt a fascist and he isnt a dictator, he cant be such is the US Federal system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,284 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    In fairness, you downplayed his rape too which is now an accepted fact. The reality is you hold fringe views. You did justify invading Ukraine even though you deny it. And you absolutely are a massive Trump fan. You seemed to briefly contemplate your tone during the Iran thing but apparently you have since backtracked to downplaying everything Trump does as per usual.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,047 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    You and others are the ones trying to do the spinning here not me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,047 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I did not justify invading Ukraine, stop peddling that lie.

    I am not a massive Trump fan. His presidency has been chaotic and a mess, im sick of the sight of him in the news everyday.

    "Since backtracked to downplaying everything Trump does"

    Again you are telling lies, I have barely posted on here since the "Iran" thing.

    I will leave ye to it in yere echo chamber now, no point trying to reason or discuss things in an objective manner as ye will try to take anything I say out of context and engage in a pile on as usual.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,076 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Your posts did imply you want Russia to win, because your posts thus far have clearly been more critical of Ukraine and the West's part in the conflict than of Russia.
    And you never corrected the record. So it is an entirely legitimate opinion to form based on the content of your posts.
    Where have you expressed public support for the independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine?
    Even now, when you are challenged on your position… zero actual criticism of Russia, zero support for Ukraine, zero support for Russia to lose either. So yes, you can be clearer.

    Trump's a child sex pervert, the details are all here and Trump didn't sue Rolling Stone... Trump entered the Miss Teen USA changing room where girls as young as 15 were in various states of undress.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/a-timeline-of-donald-trumps-creepiness-while-he-owned-miss-universe-191860/

    Numerous very creepy photos of Trump with underage girls have been posted to the thread also - triggered by your defence of Trump with a claim of "I don't see any kids". So spare us any faux outrage of about it being dumped on the thread. Your post triggered such a response.

    Readers can review the Guardian article for themselves. If you read the article that's even worse, because it means you deceptively misrepresented its contents by leaving out such damning statements as:
    Trump … "is a real and present danger to the American republic and the wider world."

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/21/is-donald-trump-a-fascist

    It includes expert commentary on why Trump is a fascist here:
    Robert O Paxton, an authority on the historical definition of fascism, argued in 2017 that, despite many overlaps, Trump did not ultimately fit the bill: he was too much of a poser, too lacking in a coherent political programme and too much of a plutocrat. Hitler expropriated the wealthy; Trump sucks up to them. But after the events of 6 January 2021, Paxton changed his mind. In Newsweek a few days afterwards he wrote, “Trump’s incitement of the invasion of the Capitol … removes my objection to the fascist label. His open encouragement of civic violence to overturn an election crosses a red line.” Trump’s time in office, by implication, had not revealed him to be a fascist (he had, after all, failed to deliver on his promise to jail his main political rival, as he had failed to deliver on many of his promises). It was the manner of his refusal to leave office that had moved the dial.

    So even an article you cite in defence of Trump states such things, and while there is are academic dispute as to whether he meets the exact definition of fascism - concludes that Trump could be one of the enablers of fascism in America.
    You cited the article, so we must assume you accept the bona fides of the experts cited and author.
    So which is it, Trump a fascist? A fascist enabler? A real and present danger to the American republic and the wider world?
    Those are the options presented in the article. If you reject all of them, then it is clear you presented the article in bad faith.
    If you refuse to answer it is therefore reasonable to conclude you are posting in defence of someone you know to be a clear and present danger to the American republic.

    I'd rather be on a site where the vile and dangerous conduct of Trump is called out for what it is.
    Than allow it to be overrun with defences of a rapist, a child sex pervert and "a clear and present" danger to democracy in America and spew spurious excuses for such conduct. Such posts amount to a position of absolute moral and political bankruptcy.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,047 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Im not reading or replying to anymore of your posts as you are making stuff up about my views on multiple topics.

    Even now, when you are challenged on your position… zero actual criticism of Russia, zero support for Ukraine, zero support for Russia to lose either. So yes, you can be clearer

    I just said above I do not want Russia to win, why are you so brazenly disengenuous.

    Im not playing your games anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,284 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    You haven't expressed any concern that Trump appears to be burying any further potential in terms of investigating associates of Epstein. In fact, you seem to be labeling anyone highlighting it as NGO agents.

    You are a massive fan of his. I think everyone will remember how you actively attempted to smear his rape victim meanwhile at the same time you claimed that Kamala Harris slept her way to the top and would be controlled by nefarious powers.

    You keep returning to this thread but there's a reason why repeatedly saying you're not a supporter of Trump is no longer plausible to most of us. You've been caught out far too many times at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,076 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Yep, still no actual criticism of Russia, still no support for Ukraine. You don't want Russia to "win", that could mean a few different things depending on your concept of victory - yet accuse Ukraine of "poking the bear". Nothing disingenuous about probing the meaning of such one liners, and it was entirely reasonable of posters to question your position on the conflict when you use such phrases, and form opinion eg you cite Mearsheimer, who has been used by posters on this forum to justify the invasion.

    I cited the contents of a Guardian article you claimed to have read. I asked a legitimate question about its contents, given you posted the article to the thread. You know you can no longer defend your position in open debate, so run away - exposing the moral and political bankruptcy of your position.

    So I repeat, bearing in mind this is from an article you posted and cited on the thread:

    Which is it, Trump a fascist? A fascist enabler? A real and present danger to the American republic and the wider world?
    Those are the options presented in the article. If you reject all of them, then it is clear you presented the article in bad faith.
    If you refuse to answer it is therefore reasonable to conclude you are posting in defence of someone you know to be a clear and present danger to the American republic and it will be reasonable to state that @MisterAnarchy accepts that Trump is a clear and present danger to the American republic and the wider world.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,047 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    More lies

    Did you miss this post

    Trump is acting in a very strange and suspicious manner too, trying to bury the case.

    I didnt say anyone highlighting it was an NGO agent.

    Look just stop twisting everything I say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,284 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Apologies you just meant general posters on the thread were employees of NGOs shaping the narrative. Still sounds insane, right? Find any proof yet?

    Your Epstein comment doesn't say a word about Trump's impact on the investigation, you just redirect it over to the FBI. Trump doesn't seem to want for it to go any further.

    I see you're not addressing all the other stuff you've said btw.

    Anyway, I have no idea if Trump did anything inappropriate with minors. I do know that he's a rapist and a danger to women in general. He also appears to have no real desire for any further investigations around Epstein and associates. He just wants it to go away which is a bit strange TBH.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,076 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    You casted aspersions on the motives of ALL posters critical of Trump with conspiracy theory BS like this post from you only 24 hours ago:

    "We also have desperate NGO employees who pretend to be objective posters trying to twist the narrative."

    Thereby highlighting that anyone on the thread critical of Trump could be such an agent.

    You have also used the phrase "twist" directly against posters, thereby tying the two together.

    You're the one casting aspersions with weasel word accusations.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    he has a gift tho

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,546 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I would consider any man who buys a teenaged beauty pageant competition so he can barge in on underage girls when they're naked in the changing rooms (and then brags about it later in public) to be a child sex pervert even if there is no other direct evidence of any other child abuse or sexual assaults.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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