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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,676 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Guess you'll have to put a lot of posters on ignore since it's a limited sum that actually agree with you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,423 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Are you blind, I havent justified any invasion of Ukraine, stop trying to twist what I have said.

    The way you talk in the feedback threads as if you are some arbiter of truth, you arent.

    You are the one with no credibility, you tried to shutdown any criticism of Biden or the Democrats over the last few years.

    Constantly deflect, deflect.

    You accused anyone of saying he was in cognitive decline of peddling conspiracy theories.

    Anything you didnt want discussed you claimed was conspiracy talk.

    Its a similar tactic to what Israel is using now, accuse someone of being antisemitic if they criticise Israel.

    Day in day out in the run up to the election you spewed your propaganda on here and tried to shutdown anything that indicated Trump would win.

    Well guess what, you were wrong then and you are wrong now, so dont say I have no credibility when I have been right on alot more matters than you and many others on this thread have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,151 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Yeah Im not blind its the standard both sides drivel to throw some blame on Ukraine. Always more critical of Ukraine than of Russia. Always more critical of Trumps critics than of Trump. Reveals where your preferences lies. You wanted Trump to win over the Democrats. You want Russia to win in Ukraine. You excuse their crimes. There is no unprompted criticism from you of their atrocities or of Trumps lies and conduct.

    Are you blind? Well it is laughable the number of blind spots you have about Trump. Where is one single post in this, the Trump thread, for politicising anti semitism to go after his political enemies. Yet you use weasel words to try to accuse me of similar conduct.
    When Trump has engaged in the actual conduct you pretend to be concerned about, and you've given him a free pass. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil - when it comes to Trump. Accuse his critics of every slur imaginable.
    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2025/apr/24/trump-antisemitism-universities-democrats-letter

    Deflect deflect deflect? From someone who defended Trump saying "I dont see any kids" then when presented with such photographs deflect by accusing posters of being paid shills.

    You have no credibility. Your posts are met with open derision on the thread as you are openly defending a rapist and a child sex pervert.

    You cant defend Trump with any credibility so all you do is cast aspersions on the motivations of those critical of Trump. Having to bring in Feedback threads ffs. Desperate drivel.

    Imagine thinking someone would have to be paid to be critical of a vile and dangerous politician like Trump. Laughable stuff.

    This is the guy you have hundreds of posts defending and excusing.

    A child sex pervert.

    I have posts defending Biden. Even an aging slowing Biden would be ten times safer a President than Trump who is dismantling US checks and balances.

    You even posted an article to this thread trying to defend Trump against accusations of being a fascist - it was obvious you hadn't read it except the headline. It included expert commentary putting forth credible arguments as to how he was a fascist, before concluding that he was a clear and present danger to democracy in America.

    That's who you are defending. A rapist, up to his neck in a child sex ring, bringing fascism to America.

    I have no regrets about which side I support and defend.

    Post edited by odyssey06 on

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,428 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Huh?

    At 1:45pm you literally wrote "Ukraine and the West were partly responsible for the invasion is what I said, which they were".

    You may not be justifying the invasion but you're apportioning blame to the victim. Do you pop down the Rape Crisis Centres and tell all the poor unfortunates that they are to blame for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. No doubt they were asking for it? It's not a justification but it's a scummy approach to blaming for an illegal and immoral deed.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,386 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It is justifying the invasion though. You can spin it however you want but your agenda is incredibly obvious.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,423 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    You are telling a pack of lies yet again.

    You want Russia to win in Ukraine. You excuse their crimes.

    Thats complete lies.

    I never once said or implied I wanted Russia to win because I dont, to say otherwise is defamation.

    You have no credibility. Your posts are met with open derision on the thread as you are openly defending a rapist and a child sex pervert.

    This thread is an echo chamber, its not reflective of the real world.

    Its an embarassment to the site where people with huge chips on their shoulders spew abuse on a daily basis about a man thousands of miles away.

    Cantankerous posters who are now trying to put words in my mouth, saying I support Russia in the war, or im a Putinbot.

    I categorically do not justify Russias invasion of Ukraine, how can I be any clearer.

    A child sex pervert.

    Thats your biased opinion, there is no definitive proof of that, you could get the site sued for saying stuff like that, yet again you are trying to frame your opinion as fact.

    You even posted an article to this thread trying to defend Trump against accusations of being a fascist - it was obvious you hadnt read it except the headline

    More lies, I did read the article, Trump isnt a fascist and he isnt a dictator, he cant be such is the US Federal system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,515 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,676 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    In fairness, you downplayed his rape too which is now an accepted fact. The reality is you hold fringe views. You did justify invading Ukraine even though you deny it. And you absolutely are a massive Trump fan. You seemed to briefly contemplate your tone during the Iran thing but apparently you have since backtracked to downplaying everything Trump does as per usual.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,423 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    You and others are the ones trying to do the spinning here not me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,423 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I did not justify invading Ukraine, stop peddling that lie.

    I am not a massive Trump fan. His presidency has been chaotic and a mess, im sick of the sight of him in the news everyday.

    "Since backtracked to downplaying everything Trump does"

    Again you are telling lies, I have barely posted on here since the "Iran" thing.

    I will leave ye to it in yere echo chamber now, no point trying to reason or discuss things in an objective manner as ye will try to take anything I say out of context and engage in a pile on as usual.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,151 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Your posts did imply you want Russia to win, because your posts thus far have clearly been more critical of Ukraine and the West's part in the conflict than of Russia.
    And you never corrected the record. So it is an entirely legitimate opinion to form based on the content of your posts.
    Where have you expressed public support for the independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine?
    Even now, when you are challenged on your position… zero actual criticism of Russia, zero support for Ukraine, zero support for Russia to lose either. So yes, you can be clearer.

    Trump's a child sex pervert, the details are all here and Trump didn't sue Rolling Stone... Trump entered the Miss Teen USA changing room where girls as young as 15 were in various states of undress.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/a-timeline-of-donald-trumps-creepiness-while-he-owned-miss-universe-191860/

    Numerous very creepy photos of Trump with underage girls have been posted to the thread also - triggered by your defence of Trump with a claim of "I don't see any kids". So spare us any faux outrage of about it being dumped on the thread. Your post triggered such a response.

    Readers can review the Guardian article for themselves. If you read the article that's even worse, because it means you deceptively misrepresented its contents by leaving out such damning statements as:
    Trump … "is a real and present danger to the American republic and the wider world."

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/21/is-donald-trump-a-fascist

    It includes expert commentary on why Trump is a fascist here:
    Robert O Paxton, an authority on the historical definition of fascism, argued in 2017 that, despite many overlaps, Trump did not ultimately fit the bill: he was too much of a poser, too lacking in a coherent political programme and too much of a plutocrat. Hitler expropriated the wealthy; Trump sucks up to them. But after the events of 6 January 2021, Paxton changed his mind. In Newsweek a few days afterwards he wrote, “Trump’s incitement of the invasion of the Capitol … removes my objection to the fascist label. His open encouragement of civic violence to overturn an election crosses a red line.” Trump’s time in office, by implication, had not revealed him to be a fascist (he had, after all, failed to deliver on his promise to jail his main political rival, as he had failed to deliver on many of his promises). It was the manner of his refusal to leave office that had moved the dial.

    So even an article you cite in defence of Trump states such things, and while there is are academic dispute as to whether he meets the exact definition of fascism - concludes that Trump could be one of the enablers of fascism in America.
    You cited the article, so we must assume you accept the bona fides of the experts cited and author.
    So which is it, Trump a fascist? A fascist enabler? A real and present danger to the American republic and the wider world?
    Those are the options presented in the article. If you reject all of them, then it is clear you presented the article in bad faith.
    If you refuse to answer it is therefore reasonable to conclude you are posting in defence of someone you know to be a clear and present danger to the American republic.

    I'd rather be on a site where the vile and dangerous conduct of Trump is called out for what it is.
    Than allow it to be overrun with defences of a rapist, a child sex pervert and "a clear and present" danger to democracy in America and spew spurious excuses for such conduct. Such posts amount to a position of absolute moral and political bankruptcy.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,423 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Im not reading or replying to anymore of your posts as you are making stuff up about my views on multiple topics.

    Even now, when you are challenged on your position… zero actual criticism of Russia, zero support for Ukraine, zero support for Russia to lose either. So yes, you can be clearer

    I just said above I do not want Russia to win, why are you so brazenly disengenuous.

    Im not playing your games anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,676 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    You haven't expressed any concern that Trump appears to be burying any further potential in terms of investigating associates of Epstein. In fact, you seem to be labeling anyone highlighting it as NGO agents.

    You are a massive fan of his. I think everyone will remember how you actively attempted to smear his rape victim meanwhile at the same time you claimed that Kamala Harris slept her way to the top and would be controlled by nefarious powers.

    You keep returning to this thread but there's a reason why repeatedly saying you're not a supporter of Trump is no longer plausible to most of us. You've been caught out far too many times at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,151 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Yep, still no actual criticism of Russia, still no support for Ukraine. You don't want Russia to "win", that could mean a few different things depending on your concept of victory - yet accuse Ukraine of "poking the bear". Nothing disingenuous about probing the meaning of such one liners, and it was entirely reasonable of posters to question your position on the conflict when you use such phrases, and form opinion eg you cite Mearsheimer, who has been used by posters on this forum to justify the invasion.

    I cited the contents of a Guardian article you claimed to have read. I asked a legitimate question about its contents, given you posted the article to the thread. You know you can no longer defend your position in open debate, so run away - exposing the moral and political bankruptcy of your position.

    So I repeat, bearing in mind this is from an article you posted and cited on the thread:

    Which is it, Trump a fascist? A fascist enabler? A real and present danger to the American republic and the wider world?
    Those are the options presented in the article. If you reject all of them, then it is clear you presented the article in bad faith.
    If you refuse to answer it is therefore reasonable to conclude you are posting in defence of someone you know to be a clear and present danger to the American republic and it will be reasonable to state that @MisterAnarchy accepts that Trump is a clear and present danger to the American republic and the wider world.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,423 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    More lies

    Did you miss this post

    Trump is acting in a very strange and suspicious manner too, trying to bury the case.

    I didnt say anyone highlighting it was an NGO agent.

    Look just stop twisting everything I say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,676 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Apologies you just meant general posters on the thread were employees of NGOs shaping the narrative. Still sounds insane, right? Find any proof yet?

    Your Epstein comment doesn't say a word about Trump's impact on the investigation, you just redirect it over to the FBI. Trump doesn't seem to want for it to go any further.

    I see you're not addressing all the other stuff you've said btw.

    Anyway, I have no idea if Trump did anything inappropriate with minors. I do know that he's a rapist and a danger to women in general. He also appears to have no real desire for any further investigations around Epstein and associates. He just wants it to go away which is a bit strange TBH.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,151 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    You casted aspersions on the motives of ALL posters critical of Trump with conspiracy theory BS like this post from you only 24 hours ago:

    "We also have desperate NGO employees who pretend to be objective posters trying to twist the narrative."

    Thereby highlighting that anyone on the thread critical of Trump could be such an agent.

    You have also used the phrase "twist" directly against posters, thereby tying the two together.

    You're the one casting aspersions with weasel word accusations.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    he has a gift tho

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,919 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I would consider any man who buys a teenaged beauty pageant competition so he can barge in on underage girls when they're naked in the changing rooms (and then brags about it later in public) to be a child sex pervert even if there is no other direct evidence of any other child abuse or sexual assaults.

    Ban billionaires



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,579 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Any merit in thinking Ghislaine Maxwell leaked the letter to WSJ as a warning shot to Trump?

    He was very careful not to criticize her and also said twice and very publicly, that he wished her well

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,350 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Maybe you should do what the other lad eternally offended by "pile ons" claimed to do and just block everyone.

    This is a discussion site. It may appear as an echo chamber because all the trump fans, and there were plenty of ye a year ago, have ran for the hills as this clown in the White House does exactly what we expected of him. Off with you an join your mates, we'll see you in two years when you come back to claim it's not an issue for Trump to try to finagle a 3rd term.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,423 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    They havent ran for the hills.

    Most were banned, due to a combination of biased moderation and the way you and others gamed the system, others left because the thread is a toxic echo chamber, and posting is a complete waste of time, you cant reason with fanatics.

    Why would they run for the hills, Trump is President after all, they won, you lost.

    Maybe they think Trump is doing a great job for all you know.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,350 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I saw someone claim online that the WSJ story about Trump and the birthday card could be an elaborate scheme to help give Trump the opportunity to claim Democrat manipulation of the story. The hypotheses was that as they proceed with the case dealing with Trump suing the WSJ, it will be "discovered" that the birthday card story is fake and that that will be used by Trump to undermine the whole claim about him being on any Epstein list. The claim is that is a favour by Murdoch to Trump and that the WSJ will issue some sort of an apology and maybe pay a fine which will be inconsequential when measured against Trump support for wealthy corporations and individuals.

    All a bit make-believe you might think, but so much about Trump could be classified in the same way, and yet it's horrifically true unfortunately. I wouldn't put this past any of the people involved. One of the comments on this story was that this will be entirely possible for Trump, sure didn't he stage an assassination attempt last summer. Who knows what exactly the truth is about that, or this, or any of the rest of it, the only thing I do know is that there's a metaphorical stench that radiates off of him and everything he does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,350 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I am a non-American no longer living in that country. I didn't lose anything, nor did they or you win.

    One thing we can agree on, you can't reason with fanatics. You've helped prove that point time and again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,676 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Plenty have simply disappeared, Trump is president but he's an incredibly **** president in the scheme of things. You're not particularly capable of defending any of his decisions. You are uncomfortable going near his controversial decisions cause they're impossible to defend unless you want to be viewed as a defender of fascists. I was reading the Wikipedia of Ingmar Bergman recently and the similarity to Trump fans sort of stands out. The weirder part is that Trump fans seem likely to celebrate as people start to die in his concentration camps

    Also let's remember all those fans are backing a rapist... Which doesn't say anything positive about them.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,151 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Trump's conduct is so vile and reprehensible it cannot be defended in open debate. Instead we get every tactic in the bag of tricks... deflection, whataboutery, both sides, accusing critical posters of being paid shills, conspiracy theory dog whistling.

    We have articles being posted trying to defend and exonerate Trump that states things like eg he is a clear danger to the American republic and the wider world. That's the best they can come up with.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,350 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    What I want to know is why he lodged the papers in Florida. On the face of it, it's probably because his private home is there, as distinct from his president's home in Washington, instead of lodging them in New York where the WSJ is published from. I do know that Judge Eileen Cannon is a Florida born and raised judge appointed by Trump and she sits in court there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,314 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Grabs them by the pussy as well and yet that gets a free pass from the brain dead…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,261 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    and was debating whether to pardon her as well, apparently



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,106 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/N-kDNlSL2r0?feature=share

    Even far-right types are turning on Trump now. I couldn't embed the above video because it's in short format but it's of Nick Fuentes burning all his bridges with the Trump admin.

    The people still supporting Trump are laying the groundwork to downplay any crimes he may have committed.

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