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Hamas strike on Israel

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  • #46892
    Spudmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123643174#Comment_123643174

    Snip….

    Not worth replying to…



  • #46893
    freebritney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭freebritney


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123643925#Comment_123643925

    Can you explain how the only country in the region with nuclear weapons, submarines, 5th generation fighters and the backing of the worlds only superpower is under existential threat? Hamas haven't launched a rocket into Israel since April, Syria was agreeing to sign up to the Abraham Accords and yet they continue launching attacks on all fronts.



  • #46894
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,563 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123641771#Comment_123641771

    Its the kind of Entitlement that has plagued human history, whether it's the 'entitlement' of nobility to oppress the peasants, or Entitlement of a 'superior' race in Apartheid South Africa, or white supremacy in America or during slavery or under the 'Jim Crow' laws
    'I deserve everything because I am born better than you'

    Demanding that every other person in the region should accept the 'right to exist' of a zionist ethno-state is ludicrous, when such a state violates the principles of equality under the universal declaration of human rights that should act as a cornerstone of modern civilization.

    Why non Jewish people would ever accept their 'chosen people' narrative is baffling to me, why any non Jewish person would ever accept the Zionist entitlement to a 'promised land' (promised to them by their own God in their own religious doctrine) as somehow giving them any right to displace people of other religions from their actual homes in the 20th and 21st century is a triumph of propaganda over any kind of enlightenment thought since the end of the dark ages of feudalism and the divine rights of kings.

    (Its interesting how the phrasing has changed from 'promised land' to 'Homeland'

    In the Jewish story, Jewish people were given this land by God, not because they already lived there, but because they were trying to establish a new nation for themselves. The fact that this establishment required the literal obliteration of every living person who already inhabited that land is airbrushed out of the narrative but still taught in all schools in Israel. God commanded that his armies conquer these lands and should kill every man woman and child who lived there

    1. Deuteronomy 7:1–2
      “When the LORD your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out many nations before you... you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy.”
    2. Deuteronomy 20:16–18
      “In the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.”
    3. 1 Samuel 15:3 (Command against the Amalekites)
      “Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.”
    4. Numbers 31:17–18 (Midianites)
      “Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately.”

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #46895
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,005 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123643885#Comment_123643885

    Well that makes you a very very weird person. Do you have any kids? Are you immune to the inhumane suffering? Or do you just not like muslims?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #46896
    Lawlesz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Lawlesz


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123643925#Comment_123643925

    What exactly is hypothetical about what that poster said? There is no murder of innocent children?

    Keep jumping through those hoops…



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  • #46897
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,563 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123643925#Comment_123643925

    There is absolutely nothing hypothetical about what Israel are doing to those innocent Palestinian children

    10 children a day are having one or both legs amputated.

    let that sink in

    https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/ten-children-day-losing-limb-gaza-warns-un

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #46898
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123643793#Comment_123643793

    You're completely normal for wanting conflict related deaths to stop. Usually there's over half a million of these worldwide every year most of which people aren't even arsed to educate themselves about. Possibly more atm mainly due to the war in Ukraine.



  • #46899
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123643912#Comment_123643912

    I'm not pro Zionist because as a White European male they hate my guts so I've zero love for them. Let's not pretend without the Israeli's stepping in to protect the Druze from the Islamists they'd be slaughtered in their thousands.

    They just won their country back and they're off killing offshoots of Islam in their droves. They'll be blown to smithereens and the druze will likely join Israel if it continues. The Syrian government has already pulled out the army and announced locals will be controlling the region because it's about the only option those Islamic nut jobs have left if they want those border towns remaining under the Syrian flag.



  • #46900
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,155 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123644085#Comment_123644085

    Perhaps the main thing that marks this 'conflict' in Gaza out from many others is the Israeli disregard for protecting innocent civilians. Anti-regime Israeli academics suggest the reason for this is that the state is deeply racist and supremacist and regards just about everyone as inferior to them - hence them spinning out narratives of being at war with 'savages' and 'animals' and 'fighting for our very survival as a nation' etc (a theme which their fellow racists and bigots in the West are happy to embrace).



  • #46901
    freebritney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭freebritney


    They bombed the only Catholic Church in Gaza and injured Pope Francis's friend whom he called every night. They really are the most spiteful, hateful and despicable military on the planet.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2025/0717/1523950-israel-gaza/



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  • #46902
    freebritney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭freebritney


    Why can't people see that Israel's actions are having global reprecussions.

    In Europe the migrant crisis is in large part due to the overthrow and destabilisation (through the USA) of Libya and Syria. Gadaffi acted as the bulwark to African migration to Europe but he didn't bend the knee to Israel so he had to go. Watch the famous General Wesley Clarke interview where he talks about seeing the list of 7 countries America was going to attack after 9/11, he has now confirmed the list was Israels wish list. Iraq, Iran, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Somalia and Sudan. The list said 5 years so it took a little longer but everyone has been attacked.

    9/11 and all the terror attacks where mostly inspired by the treatment of the Palestinians along with the US having forces in Saudi. Bin Laden said all this in the famous letter he posted and that the US suppressed. American foreign policy in the Middle East is now fully aligned with Likud's policy. The wikileaks emails have shown that diplomats are reporting back that anti American sentiments are through the roof and the support of Israels actions in Gaza has set back American dilplomacy by 25/30 years in not just the ME but globally. They are committing harakiri on behalf of Likud and Israel



  • #46903
    Miniegg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Miniegg


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123643885#Comment_123643885

    Really. Why on earth do you think people don't want it to stop?



  • #46904
    Odhinn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,698 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123644150#Comment_123644150

    There's also the "settlers" -

    "TAYBEH, West Bank, July 14 (Reuters) - Christian leaders accused Israeli settlers on Monday of attacking sacred sites in the West Bank, in violence that one said was forcing some to consider quitting the occupied territory.The Greek Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem, Theophilos III - visiting the Christian town of Taybeh with other Jerusalem-based clerics - said settlers had started a fire near a cemetery and a 5th century church there last week.

    "These actions are a direct and intentional threat to our local community ... but also to the historic and religious heritage," the patriarch told diplomats and journalists at a press conference in Taybeh.Settlers had also attacked homes in the area, he said."

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/clerics-accuse-west-bank-settlers-attacking-christian-sites-2025-07-14/



  • #46905
    dmcdona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,187 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123644086#Comment_123644086

    Pure whataboutery.

    There are other threads for the discussion of other conflicts.



  • #46906
    dmcdona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,187 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123644085#Comment_123644085

    And yet the completely hypothetical "existential threat" apparently posed against Israel is constantly rolled out as justification for their warmongering and atrocities.

    The hypocrisy is astonishing but unsurprising.



  • #46907
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123644417#Comment_123644417

    I mean I'm responding to a guy who's point included "all of the slaughtering" and chose the years 2024 and 2025 but conveniently left out 2023. kind of a strange take no? At least my slaughtering was included in his timeframe.



  • #46908
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123644205#Comment_123644205

    Gadaffi acted as a buffer but there's nothing stopping the EU instilling measures to ensure illegals are stopped and swiftly deported while trying to cross the Mediterranean. Unfortunately our European overlords want this invasion to continue and completely ignore what the people want. I tell you want thing, it's like an Israeli dream come through watching us self destruct like this. But unfortunately those who protest Israel the most can't see this.



  • #46909
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,005 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123644457#Comment_123644457

    No it's not a strange take. I could have said since Oct 7th 2023 but it was easier to say both years to simplify for a very weird poster. To be honest your PMs on anti-semitism also put you in the very weird category for me. My point stands and is completely valid. ALL the slaughtering is being done by one side for nearly 2 years. Do you accept that? Did you see Danzy's childish response? He'll be another one that disappears for a while once the mask slipped. Your response was all over the shop so I ignored it.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #46910
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,070 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123643395#Comment_123643395

    It has been pointed out to you and others loads of times that Netanyahu will continue to massacre the innocents even if the hostages are returned BUT you continue to ignore this and post the above junk.

    https://www.dailysabah.com/world/mid-east/netanyahu-wont-stop-gaza-war-even-if-hamas-releases-hostages



  • #46911
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123644480#Comment_123644480

    In this current conflict it only makes sense to say 23-25. I didn't see his response but he's not my cup of tea.

    Currently all the slaughtering is being done by the Israeli's that's a fact. I'm of the opinion that if HAMAS and the Gazans held the power cards, the slaughtering would be reversed and possibly worse so I don't give one side the moral high ground over the other.



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  • #46912
    freebritney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 523 ✭✭✭freebritney


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123644476#Comment_123644476

    Of course Israel is delighted with what's happening in Europe., they despise us and see us as the reason they had to bugger off and colonise Palestine in the first place. They're pushing millions of Muslims to Europe and away from the Middle East (mainly surrounding Israel)which in turn makes European Jews feel less safe causing them to immigrate to Israel, it's a win win. It's in everyone's interest that Israel is brought to heel, especially Europes.



  • #46913
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,005 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123644596#Comment_123644596

    Yeah and if my auntie had balls she would be my uncle. The fact is that Israel are doing ALL the slaughtering and maiming and starving in all of 2024 and 2025 and 82 days in 2023. I want them to stop. It has ceased being a war long ago. There are no military targets and yet the slaughtering continues and some absolutely love that.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #46914
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123644613#Comment_123644613

    It's in our interest the Islamification of Europe stops. That's about it.

    And yes they absolutely hate our guts but they've enough control over us that we're useful to them for now. We'll be too busy bringing Islam to heal in future decades to even blink and eye at what Israel will be up to.



  • #46915
    RoyalCelt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123644619#Comment_123644619

    Correct she would be your uncle just like HAMAS have proven their lust for blood. The savages even captured an Irish girl and held her hostage.

    It's an extremely one sided war because HAMAS are happy to continue it and sacrifice "their" people. What a bunch of useful idiots they turned out to be for the Israeli's. Cousin marriage must be very prevalent amongst them because they're as thick as thieves. Might be worth having a look into. They started this battle, they lost now man up surrender and stop sacrificing your people. If Ireland took this approach there would have been none of us left. At this point they're just doing Israel's bidding for them.



  • #46916
    Lawlesz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Lawlesz


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123644716#Comment_123644716

    really edgy quote, it’s almost a shame it’s nonsense. The war at this moment has almost nothing to do with Hamas any more. Are you aware that there was a ceasefire deal that one side reneged on for no discernible reason?

    It’s an extremely one sided war because one side are one of the best equipped army in the world and the vast vast majority of people they are murdering and maiming are unarmed civilians.

    You can’t just keep repeating the same tired lines over and over and ignore the facts of what actually happened and continues to happen on a daily basis.



  • #46917
    dmcdona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,187 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123644457#Comment_123644457

    Pants on fire.

    I just want the slaughter and maiming and starvation to stop. I am weird like that. I know I know, they are only Palestinians.

    the post was clearly talking about Palestinians - no other conflict. Other conflicts belong in other threads.

    Selective quoting relies on other posters having the memory of a goldfish. Many here have the memory of elephants.

    The deflection of bringing unrelated conflicts into this discussion about Israel's Genocide is a well known tactic that will not work



  • #46918
    dmcdona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,187 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123644716#Comment_123644716

    if it's lust for blood you're pointing out, Israel is far and above any other blood lusting group of nutters.

    They even executed their own by the score and murdered three of their own surrendering hostages (and nuns and sheep of course).



  • #46919
    seablue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭seablue


    Why don't Hamas end the war by releasing the remaining hostages? They must know by now that they won't win this.



  • #46920
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,155 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123644871#Comment_123644871

    Hamas poses a minimal threat to the IDF at the moment and virtually zero threat at all to the region of Israel or to its population. To say that the bombing of Gaza is continuing 'because of Hamas' would be an absolute lie.



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  • #46921
    sock.rocker*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    What war? Is it a war?

    For a long time now, like years, it's just been the brutalising of a group of people. Complete control over food, aid, electricity, etc. from day one. The fact that they are planning a concentration camp and the only thing that could even stop it is international pressure says this is not a war.

    The deaths being reported daily are just civilians, a lot of them waiting for food.

    Calling it a war is in the best interests of those who want to continue this horrendous process by an incredibly horrible Israeli adminstration. It is full of people who think the entire Palestinian people, human animals, should simply be starved to death.

    The weirdest thing is the amount of ostensibly left wing people who have aligned themselves with one of the most right wing horrific administrations in history.

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