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Price of a Coffee.

  • 15-07-2025 05:45PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,028 ✭✭✭✭


    I'm not a coffee person (prefer strong tea) but I recently bought 2 Cappuccinos to take away for two friends, one with an extra shot (whatever that means) and they cost 8.80 euro. What the hell is happening with all the sudden increases or is this normal?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,394 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Poor harvests for the past couple of years have led to huge wholesale price rises for coffee. That said the price started to drop in the past two weeks - not that I expect retail prices to drop any time soon. Energy prices didn't help the cost of roasting either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,128 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Crazy alright. My limit is places less than 4 euro. If there are none left then that's the end of that expensive habit for me.

    There definitely is a demand and profit because there are coffee shops sprouting up everywhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,028 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    They're sprouting up all over my town too. Must be a huge profit in it even if the crop has been effected by poor weather.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,501 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Coffee powder (not instant) is getting increasingly hard to get. Shop out of stock a lot lately



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,907 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Are you talking about those little stand type places, I was visiting home a while back and went to a few of them. The cup sizes tend to be smaller than regular coffee shops, and to be honest with the cup sizes the prices are very close to what I pay in San Francisco and the East Bay.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,028 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Just a Regular size. You could get a pint in a pub for a little bit more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_


    the prices are very close to what I pay in San Francisco and the East Bay.

    Apologies, I'm lost. Should they be dearer? Cheaper? 😕



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭apache


    Just have the one cappuccino in the morning. Used to be 3.90 now 4.10



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Genghis


    MvDonalds or Cafe Sol in Dunned about the only decent value left. McDonalds always a decent cup, and you get one free out of every 6 (think they are €2.60 for Americano, little more for others).

    Costa the biggest rip off, it's over €4 there for an Americano, other drinks easily over €5 for regular size, more if larger size.

    Notable mentions to Applegreen and Frank and Honest, both believe you should pay barista pricing for bean to cup / self service. Very close to €4 an Americano there.

    In many European countries coffee is under €2, often under €1.50 a cup.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,418 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Coffee outlets are like rats. Never more than ten meters away from one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,907 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    The SF Bay area is one of the most expensive places in the world, I was visiting Donegal and I would expect it to be a bit cheaper there. Fast food prices were not a million miles away either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    Ponaire sell decent coffee, you'll pay around €30/Kg typically.

    https://ponaire.ie/products/ponaire-indian-blend-coffee?variant=45322701570277

    If buying in bulk say 30Kg/week you'll surely get that down to €25/Kg.

    We'll assume every coffee is a double shot, you get about 70 shots per kilo. That's about 35c per coffee in terms of coffee costs.

    So rises in wholesale price of coffee,even if it doubled might account for 17c.

    In truth the 35c per coffee is likely overestimated and therefore the increase is even less than 17c.

    €4 per coffee is a gouging.

    Buy yourself an aeropress/mokka pot or whatever and make your own for 40C a cup or nice tea for a fraction of that.

    Caffeine is best taken an hour or two after you wake up, when you have been outside for 15 mins plus and the sunlight wakes you up and resets your circadian rhythm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,913 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    There's definitely some price gouging going on here as well

    A bag of beans here seems to very often be around €30-35 per kilo

    I can buy Wanted coffee beans from Northern Ireland for around €13 per kilo from Discount Coffee

    I'm not a coffee expert but the Wanted beans taste just as good if not better than most of the coffee I get from a shop here. So I don't think there's a massive difference in quality

    The beans are roasted in NI so I don't think it's because of some difference in purchasing power, energy costs or wages

    If it was a few euros in the difference then it's easy to write off as price differences between regions but we're talking 2-3 times the price down here

    Something ain't adding up...

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Add in approx 17c for cup and lid.Most wholesalers doing beans at 20e per kg.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Between them, vape shops and Kurdish barbers that only accept cash and curiously always empty the money laundering economy is strong



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,913 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    1kg of beans should get you around 50 double espressos so around 40c of the cup is the beans

    The main cost drivers are always the wages of the person making the coffee, the rent of the premises, energy costs and tax

    I think there's also a bit of conditioned behaviour from customers going on, coffee costs around €4 because that's what people are willing to pay

    That's not to say that coffee shops are money printers but more that there's a desire for people who buy coffee to have it prepared in a somewhat complex, labour intensive and expensive process and they're willing to pay extra for it

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,897 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    coffee costs around €4 because that's what people are willing to pay

    Yep, this is why coffee from a machine in a petrol station costs about the same as a barista-made coffee in a cafe. It’s not really about the cost of the inputs, it’s a luxury item so the price is whatever they can sell it for.

    But as a luxury item, if you think it’s too expensive, just don’t buy it and you’ve lost literally nothing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    Was in Milan recently €1.30 for an amazing cappuccino.

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 305 ✭✭babyducklings1


    It’s expensive depending on where you buy it and how much you can actually afford to spend on coffee if you are buying it on a regular or daily basis. . Another option would to bring flask or thermos of coffee from home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,283 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Kaffekapsellen's Garibaldi blend was €9.99 in for 1kg of beans, today it's €16.49. that's a 65% rise in 3 and ½ months.

    As others have mentioned, issues such as poor harvests and rising demand have compounded price rises. It is rapidly approaching a stage where even making coffee at home is becoming quite expensive.

    Still, when those big Trump tariffs kick in on Brazilian coffee? There'll be a surge in supply to us here unless the yanks want another 50% in their beans.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,725 ✭✭✭joebloggs32


    The manager in the local garage told a friend of mine that the sales of tea and coffee produce enough revenue to pay the weekly wages of all the staff.

    I'm amazed at people buying it every day. When the next recession hits will nosedive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    My local rugby club makes more revenue from selling coffee to parents of kids and people watching matches than the fully stocked bar makes. And that bar is busy plenty with matches, parties etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,948 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    You won’t get 70 shots per kg on an industrial machine. They will be 18-22g baskets/dose, not 14-15g, so that’s 50 standard (double) shots per kg. Rent is extortionate for bricks and mortar coffee shops, wages probably €15 per hour, coffee machine anywhere from €10-20k, €1-2k for a grinder that can handle the throughput, rates, taxes, etc. you’d want to be selling a lot of coffee to make much profit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭holliehobbie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,778 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Cappuccino €4.60



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75,501 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,498 ✭✭✭Trampas


    Place near me give 50 cent off if you bring your own cup and Americanos are €3 and cappuccino etc 3.40 with your own cup. That was about a month ago.

    I do find it funny that people are like I need coffee and go for the largest one and all they’re doing is watering it down either milk or water.

    Was in canaries and espresso was €1. I prefer espresso myself as prefer the coffee than the volume of liquid but each to their own



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,913 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    True, petrol stations and other self serve coffee seen to just set themselves 50c or so below coffee shops

    I'd believe it, heard about one petrol station that had to replace the machines for something like €30k and it paid for itself within a few months

    Even in a recession people will pay for their luxuries. People still went to the pub or smoked during the last recession, just not as much

    I'm surprised more people don't just get an espresso machine at home. They're expensive but worth it if you drink coffee regularly. I'd say mine has paid for itself 2-3 times by now and I only drink 2 coffees per day

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭Rock Steady Edy


    I was in Italy last week, and while an Americano might have been only €1.60, it was probably a third to a half the size you'd get here, so not really any cheaper at all.

    Pret sell filter coffee for £1-£1.50 in the UK. I haven't been in one here, but presumably they sell an equivalent, so @the_amazing_raisin's observation that barista coffee making is an expensive and time consuming process seems right and might be avoided by taking a filter coffee where it's offered.

    What's a bit cheeky is when some places offer you a low end product (eg coffee powder / granuals) and expect you to pay barista prices for it, typically transport operators.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,913 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    One thing I spotted in France was they seem to serve Nespresso coffee in a lot of places.

    They use machines that are kind of made up to look like a commercial espresso machines, but yoy judt put a capsule in and pull a lever and it does the rest

    I also didn't see many dedicated coffee shops, more just cafes or bars that serve coffee along with everything else

    I'd say it cuts down a lot labour costs a lot which helps keep the price down

    I haven't seen many places selling filter coffee here, seems to have gone out of fashion pretty much

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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