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Donald Trump the Megathread part II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    Well I think its the same as it ever was - you either win/defeat your enemy quickly or you are better off going home. Protracted warfare against entrenched positions has never worked (without paying a very high price).

    The main difference now is that developed countries no longer have the population growth to sustain what we are seeing in Ukraine. Russia never recovered from the effect that the events of WW2 had on their population, and Putin has destroyed even more of Russia's dwindling youth for essentially nothing.

    Putin has been as foolish as Nasser was in 67 - believing that his armed forces were a lot better than they actually are. Imagine it being 2025 and Russia's main battle strategy is still throwing waves of men at positions in the hope of overrunning them? That is bad enough, trying to fight a war without complete air superiority is utter insanity.

    Post edited by twinytwo on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,194 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fM7cMyL-12E

    This is a comedic, but remarkably accurate short about DJT, its his method of calculating tariffs and its hard to argue with the interpretation. He needs water wings in the shallow end of thinking and analysis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Good points

    I think the main positives out of this development are

    1. He is not helping Russia which was a disturbing possibility
    2. He is slowly realising Putin is laughing at his stupidity, this may yet spectacularly backfire on Russia
    3. It puts Ukraine one a better trajectory, tho it was Trump who made things up to now much worse, so usual tactic of breaking things and then claiming to fix it from Trump


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,235 ✭✭✭blackbox


    I have to wonder if Bolsinaro has his own pee pee tapes or if Putin shared his.

    ...or maybe he shared an experience with Trump on Epstein's island.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,331 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I find it amusing, though not weird, that Trump has put a 17% duty on Mexican Tomatoes imported into the U.S. while he has ICE raiding U.S agriculture farms to find and deport immigrant workers from the U.S. particularly California, so their crop rots on the vine.

    Apparently the three topmost producers of tomatoes in the US are Indiana, Florida, and California, the top 10 states that produce large quantities of tomatoes are Tennessee, Florida, South Carolina, Virginia, North Carolina, Ohio, New Jersey, California, Michigan, and Indiana.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,517 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Charlie Kirk: “I'm done talking about Epstein. I'm gonna trust my friends in the government.”

    Trump must have called Kirk too.

    Totally normal for a man who is not in the Epstein files to call around people and tell them to stop talking about something he has nothing to do with...

    Tricky one for Trump. The more people are told to shut up about it, the more it inflamed the loonier side of MAGA (MTG, Loomer, Carlson etc) gets.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    This really has the potential to be the "The emperor had no clothes" moment for Trump and the MAGA movement.

    The whole " Liberal Elite child sex trafficking" trope is a central plank of that entire movement and Trump and his cronies have milked it mercilessly for support for years.

    I don't think this can be memory holed or ignored the way all his other lies can.

    Pointing at the brown guy might distract the MAGAs from their loss of medical cover or the price of eggs, but it feels like it's just not going to work to make them forget about the mythical "Paedophile Elite" .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,135 ✭✭✭golfball37


    I doubt it’s mythical tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,291 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I'm sure there's plenty of people on Epstein's lists that are of interest. But pretty clearly Trump doesn't want it pursued. And let's just remember, that Trump cheerleaders such as Alan Dershowitz were supposedly on that list.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Are their rich people that do horrible awful things?

    Yes of course there are.

    But the whole Pizza gate , Adrenochrome storylines and the idea that they are all "in on it" together?

    Utter nonsense.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,290 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Well, it won't be memory holed if it keeps getting brought up, and the media et al needs to keep bringing it up. When it is stopped being talked about, Trump and his band of morons will just pivot to something else and it'll all be quietly dropped.

    As you say, this whole thing was a central tenet of MAGA and they were all in if it could be shown that the likes of Bill Clinton or Bill Gates or <insert a Democrat here> were on the manifests of Epstein's flight lists. But now it's "Oh those lists don't exist".

    Hmmmm…I wonder why that is.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    In fairness, it's pretty much a win for Trunp.

    Ukraine gets a new batch of weapons, US factories get more production orders, he keeps his promise of not spending any more US dollars on foreign assistance... other than idiots like MTG bleating about foreign involvement, where is the downside for him?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    This was on table the day he walked into the whitehouse

    Pity it took his slow brain 6 months to arrive at the obvious that Putin is not to be trusted

    And even now he is still all over the place on his messaging sending contradictory signals



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,404 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Would have been a win for him when they were first asking if they could do it to be fair. But better late than never.

    It is also coming after Colby (supposedly) went on a solo run to block supplies. There remains a worrying lack of consistency or logic in their approach, which is counterproductive to say the least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,827 ✭✭✭pah


    FYP -American Citizens just look on and half of them cheer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,291 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Given Trump's history, I would say it's not unlikely that he renegs in a month or two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭gw80


    The adrenachrome and pizza gate stories are just that,nonsense, but that's the point as I see, most people would roll their eyes and stop listening at that point,

    But what is much more believable is, epstien has links to mossad and between them set up a honey trap effort to get dirt on rich and powerful people to use against them when it suited them. Totally believable,and a bit more that just rich people do horrible stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    US inflation climbed to 2.7% in June, surpassing expectations and signalling that Donald Trump’s tariffs are hitting prices


    Have they blamed Biden yet?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭bog master


    "in two weeks"



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Fair point , which is why Trumps usual deflection tactics don't seem to be working here.

    There is a thread of validity to the "Epstein list" story and Team Trump have been shouting about it endlessly for years , right up to his current administration only a few months ago claiming it was "on their desk for review" , so to now claim that it doesn't exist and there's nothing to see just isn't going to fly.

    The hard core MAGAs view Trump as the champion of the regular guy and the man to "Smash the Elites and the Deep State".

    His current deflections and attempts to "move on" are exactly the kind "Deep state" behaviour they hate..

    Post edited by Quin_Dub on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,331 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    About the only thing that could f*ck it up would be Trump himself or the DOGE inspired finance-cutbacks. With NATO to provide the funding, nothing should go wrong barring Russia doing something to stop the arrival in Europe of the batteries. I noted today mention of other armaments being included in the delivery list to Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,160 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Yeah but if you criticise you’re labelled a communist, your citizenship removed and shipped off to El Salvador 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,134 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    So are we supposed to now applaud Trump for ending up where he should have been three years ago and certainly 6 months ago? Is this his big plan on how to end the war on day 1? To provide weapons to Ukraine, the exact same as Biden did? That aiding the defence of Ukraine is actually the right thing to do?

    This is after yet another flip-flop from Trump. What happened to his stance that it was all Zelenskys fault and that the US were not going to pick sides or get involved?

    Yet again Trump has been shown to be completely wrong on almost everything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,081 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    don't think there ever was anything loony about Tucker, he just had to tow the line at Fox.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,333 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Any theories on why Epstein killed himself?

    He was on a suicide watch it seems and this was not the first time he had tried it.

    I think his brother has said he doesn't think he did kill himself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,085 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    ICE out of control again:

    Irish tourist jailed by Ice for months after overstaying US visit by three days: ‘Nobody is safe’

    He had planned to return to Ireland in December, but was briefly unable to fly due to a health issue, his medical records show. He was only three days overdue to leave the US when an encounter with police landed him in Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) custody.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/15/irish-tourist-ice-detention

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭storker




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    Is that the same lad who got into a domestic and falsely imprisoned his wife?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,117 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Lucky if he didn't end up in Alligator Alcatraz, apparently they have 500 held there in horrendous conditions for nothing more than traffic offences while being in America without a valid visa



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,422 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Don't worry he will blame Powell for checks notes ..... Keeping rates high .... Because he is so wrong he thinks that high rates lead to high inflation



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