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Solar PV Hints, Tips & Troubleshooting Part 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,500 ✭✭✭championc


    If you have a digital multimeter, disconnect the battery terminals, and check the voltage of it



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Any buttons on the battery?

    A quick Google indicates that there is a rocker switch and another push button.

    Press that for a few seconds

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 353 ✭✭mjatkey


    Yeah on the WECO's I have there is an on/off rocker switch then a push button next to it. I find once you turn the rocker on the push button just needs a couple of seconds push and a few clicks and it starts up. Inverter on first though.

    🌞 6.96kWp PV System. West Dublin🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,943 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Thanks Folks. Have tied the on/off rocker switch a few times and the red sw button but no joy.

    Don't have a multi meter I'm afraid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,943 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Ok. The battery has just restarted. I didn't do anything. Just came back of its own accord.

    I had logged a ticket with Solis and there was some back and forth with them. Unless they were able to do something from their end (if they did, they haven't mentioned it).

    Thanks for the suggestions.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,943 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Spoke too soon. It’s not fully right yet. The battery is back on and is showing on the app/solis unit but it’s not charging. All excess is being exported.

    The run light on top of the battery unit is flashing green. Not sure if that’s normal or if it should be a solid green.

    I might have put some menu settings wrong when I was trying to fix the issue over the last couple of days.

    *OK, think I had the ‘Export Power Set’ set as ‘On’. I changed this to Off and now battery seems to be charging.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,943 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    And now the battery is off again.

    Can Communication Failure alarm back on

    So annoying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Either the battery or the BMS is faulting. Turn it off and wait and see what the supplier/manufacturer say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,500 ✭✭✭championc


    Would almost be worth buying a multimeter off Amazon. It would be useful to know the battery voltage I think



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭HotSwap


    Hi all,

    Looking for some advice on expanding my ground-mounted solar setup. I’m currently running 18 × 415W panels on a Huawei SUN2000-6KTL-L1 inverter. The panels are in two strings of 9, both facing southwest, each on its own MPPT. It’s working great so far.

    I’m planning to add another 18 panels on my front roof, which is northwest-facing. The idea is to spread out generation into the evening and make use of the roof space.

    The thing is, I know I’m getting close to the 600V MPPT limit if I try to run 18 panels on a single string, and paralleling two 9-panel strings would go over the 13.5A current limit unless I use optimizers — which gets expensive.

    So I’m wondering if it would just make more sense to add a second inverter and run the new panels separately. Has anyone done something similar? Would love to hear what others would do in this situation.

    HS.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭SD_DRACULA


    I'd get rid of Huawei inverter if it's a hybrid since they only take the huawei batteries which you don't want.

    I think something like this would be great for your setup or the same model but as a Deye would be cheaper, it can take 6 strings over 3 Mppts and would easily be able to max out all them panels, I think with the huawei you're losing a bit of gen.

    Just don't forget to set the export to either 5 or 6kw depending on what your nc6 says or go for nc7



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭HotSwap


    I already have a huawei battery. And it’s great. Just noodling on options. Yeah I spoke to Orla in ESB about the NC7; that’s a possibility too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭SD_DRACULA


    Then yeah if you have their batteries you're stuck with that.

    Just get a second string inverter only then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel


    Finally got my 12 panel ground array re-wired.

    Instead of using 4mm2 like I had I asked the sparky to run 6mm2 cable this time. The run from the ground array to the inverter is about 35m.

    Straightaway I noticed production was markedly up on what is was in similar days last year. In addition for the first time ever the myenergi app and the data on the screen of the inverter match exactly to the kWh - even the monthly total match bang on. A clear sign to me that the losses from using the larger cable is minimal compared to the 4mm2.

    I just thought I'd post my findings as some might find the anecdote interesting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭HotSwap


    I used 4mm for a similar length run and did never noticed anything off… What did you spot? Maybe i'm looking in the wrong place.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    As Solar strings are relativly high voltages, and with currents maxing out at about 13amps, the difference between 4 and 6 is fairly minimal. (and also calculable), using Ohms and Joules law

    V= IR for the voltage drop,

    the power loss from the voltage drop can be calculated using joules law, P= I^2R
    On a 70 m run the loss on a 4mm2 cable is about 32w at 10 amps, 22w on a 6mm2 cable. More or less a rounding error in the solar string running at roughly 3-4kW.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    I'd have to agree. Only if the 4mm^2 was significantly undersized would you see a defined difference between the two. And even at that the thermal loss over the line would have made it pretty toasty. I'd more suspect that you had a bad connection on the path.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,874 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    This is more for the tips section.

    I had a really strange issue yesterday evening that took a while to figure out.

    On the Home Assistant dashboard I could see I was drawing from the grid as grid is monitored by the myenegi sensor even though the batteries were 90%+ charged. The other sensors are monitored via the Solarman integration showed no usage.

    When I generated load (Turned on a kettle) I could see it register via Solis so ruled out the CT.

    Restarted everything in the attic and the same issue remained. Small draw from the grid even though the battery should have covered it.

    Got my RECI friend around to open up the consumer unit and inspect and the CT clamp which was installed 3 years ago had unclipped from around the cable.

    Clipped back in place and everything back to normal.

    A note of thanks to the forum community and mods here without all the help and advice previously getting HA setup I would not have even noticed it.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,326 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    tips… if your Live feed cable does not have space for a CT clamp you can clamp the Neutral backwards for same effect, some of our old CU are very tight for space

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    If datalogger says plant offline, will my inverter still send solar readings.to smart meter and onto grid? Away on holidays and plant reading offline for first time.



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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    there is no communication between inverter and smart meter.

    Smart meter just measures the power in and out, So not to worry, your export will still be counted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭sprite0


    Hi. Would anyone have any idea why my PV to grid readings on the Solis app are suddenly reversed. When panels are producing app shows as importing from grid and exporting to grid when not producing. Myenergi app shows correct flows. System installed last Feb and everything worked fine up until a few weeks ago. No physical changes made to system. See screenshot attached from each app taken a few minutes apart.

    Thanks



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,500 ✭✭✭championc


    Have you got other sources of data like MyEnergi devices ? The inverter could have tripped off.

    You could check your HDF file (which will of course be a day or two delayed), and that would pretty much confirm if the inverter has completely stopped (for whatever reason).

    The other option could simply be that your internet router is down



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭newhouse87


    Never Happened before. I'm away at moment. Got it reset but keeps happening. Maybe just need to turn off and on router or signal booster. As graemek said I will still be getting my export so no major deal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 353 ✭✭mjatkey


    Just an observation, had Solis inverter swapped out on Friday, at first switch on very similar in that it looked like it was importing from grid, fix appears to be swap of the ct direction on the inverter but even then took a while for the cloud to settle, seems the datalogger because it was reset has defaulted back to 5mins refresh not the 1min when connected to the original inverter.

    🌞 6.96kWp PV System. West Dublin🌞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭sprite0


    No battery. As I said earlier App displayed correct flow until a few weeks ago and if I view the system using the Myenergi app iit displays the correct figures.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,874 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Just a question for anyone running the latest Solarman integration in Home Assistant is there an entity for grid power?

    I have went through them all and can't see one that records data the same as the Myenergi grid power entity.

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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,874 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Thanks that looks like it but it does not invert to show flow going back to the grid that's what had me confused.

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