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Israel/Palestine Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    There wouldn't be many Hamas supporters in here in honesty. But that's not a point of overall importance anymore either. The facts are that both sets of people hate the other, Israel being the dominant entity are using the October 7th massacre to justify their revenge/genocide mission to take control over the area and continuing to move into lands they aren't entitled to. It would have been their aim to do this by stealth a bit at a time anyway, but it's more open and callous now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,141 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Putting down, as in animals. Oh, very clever on the dehumanisation.
    Was it an Israeli war crime?

    Your genocide denying fellow traveler says not wearing a military uniform is a war crime so you must consider the IDF dressed as doctors to murder people in hospital a war crime, no?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,689 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    How does Israel deal with its own rapists in the IDF? Probably reward them and promote them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,045 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Oh you sound a bit upset at my "dehumanisation " of those Hamas rapists and murderers.

    No it was no war crime , in fact it was a good day's work.

    Its just a pity they didnt get more of them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,689 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Another 27 people murdered this morning, mainly women and children trying to get drinking water. Denying people water to drink is a War Crime.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 56,689 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Did you feel the same when the 5 IDF members were killed last week?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,045 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    It was a terrible loss of 5 brave soldiers fighting cowardly terrorists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,141 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Is this the part where you prove the man and the two brothers murdered in the hospital raped and murdered someone?

    Do you have the name of the victim these people raped or murdered?

    But of course you won’t have evidence you will have cliches, “animals”, filth, human shields, blah, blah, blah. All so tiresome.

    You enjoy when “suspects” are executed in hospital while they sleep Galwayguy35. #mostMoralArmy #OnlyDemocracy

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 8,052 Mod ✭✭✭✭circadian


    Good thing international law isn't based on the opinions of an internet edgelord.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,045 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,045 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    You sound a bit upset.

    Personally I think it's great there are 3 less Hamas rapists and murderers in the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Surely better than blowing up the whole hospital?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,141 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    All the IDF soldiers killed by Hamas on October 7th were rapists and murderers. I don’t have any proof and when asked for proof I will just keep repeating BS, but I have a mantra and I’m sticking to it.

    Is that how this works Galwayguy35?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,141 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    It was in the West Bank. They haven’t started blowing up the hospitals in the West Bank just yet. They are still bogged down in Gaza.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,045 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Hamas are a terrorist organisation who attacked young people at a music festival on Oct 7th to murder the men and rape the women.

    So yeah I'll call them rapists and murderers all day long.

    Sounds like you support them.

    You are the only one arguing over what i say about Hamas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,141 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    And it will be the same tomorrow and the day after that and the day after that. And the US and EU will do nothing and no one will ever be held accountable.
    The Epstein/Mossad scandal is waking people up to the use by Israel of child abuse for political ends, as the British did in Kincora before them but they will be quickly distracted by a renewed war on Iran or some such nonsense.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,141 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    You said the three people shot while they slept in a hospital by Israel were “rapists and murderers”.

    Where is your evidence on these 3 individuals , let’s have it.

    If one IDF soldier rapes or murders someone are they all rapists and murderers and fair game to be, as you said “put down”?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭tarvis


    Maybe it’s time for those who granted land in the Middle East to Israel after WW2 to cry Halt and return said land to its original owners. Maybe it’s time to declare the ‘Israel’ experiment a failure, destroyed by the fanaticism of some and the power plays of many US presidents.
    A Palestine for all -including Peaceful Jews ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,243 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    The forces of genocide get attacked in Gaza by a lone resistance fighter



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,141 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    What a coward! The real brave heroes fly thousands of feet above, dodging stones being thrown from below while dropping bombs on women queuing for baby formula. #IDFHeroes ❤️

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    There are Hamas supporters on here! But hey, there are Israeli supporter too!

    This isn't exactly a peace thread I suppose, must be just a few of us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭Miniegg


    How can you say that with even a semblance of reality when the killings on either side, since 1947, are 10,000 Israelis killed Vs 110,000 odd Palestinians - that are known about. It is absolute nonsense.

    Millions of Palestinians have been displaced since 1947. 10's of thousands of children, and thousands of babies butchered. Population are being starved and poor people massacred when they go to collect food. Israel are constantly expanding and violently annexing land.

    How you can ignore the cold facts and make statements like the above are absolutely beyond me.

    If Ireland was being violently taken over, our lands taken from us, our homes demolished by people from other parts of the world who claimed the land was somehow theirs, if we were stripped of our rights, your family and friends and neighbors routinely dehumanized and picked on by a foreign security force - what would you do? Would you fight back? Would you roll over?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭Miniegg


    There are Hamas supporters

    I've seen one poster spewing bile glorifying Hamas and their killings, that was equivalent to the bile spewed by the pro IDF crowd. One. In months. And that poster was the exact same as them, it was uncanny - no proof for what they were saying, didn't answer questions, just a narrative that existed outside of reality and made no logical sense if you aren't a person consumed by hatred of the other side.

    But this mirrors the actual war where false equivalences are constantly being drawn between sides, which goes totally against the casualty statistics and the reality of the situation. In this thread both sides are not equally culpable in supporting warcrimes - bar one poster showing support for Hamas this uniquely a pro IDF POV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭michael-henry-mcivor


    People can support Palestinian resistance without supporting Hamas-

    The Palestinian ambulance drivers / doctors / nurses etc are pure hero's who struggle on as Israel bomb the children of GAZA-



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭batman75


    The cost of rebuilding Gaza should fall on the Israelis. These monsters have committed genocide and destroyed a large city. Such actions have consequences. Israel has been getting away with murder since it's foundation in 1948. Once rebuilt Israeli forces should be banned from entering Gaza and hopefully eventually Gaza can be incorporated into a Palestine from the river to the sea once Israel ceases to exist as a state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,045 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    No, just the soldier who did it.

    Hamas on the other hand like to rape and shoot young women.

    It will be a good day when the IDF put a bullet in the last one of them.

    You will probably be sad on that day though seeing as you are so upset about what I'm saying about them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,045 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Ah yes one of your Hamas friends, you know the ones who like to drive around with the body of Shani Louk after they raped and shot her.

    What a hero indeed!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,514 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    No evidence that unfortunate young woman was raped that day - not even Israel has ever claimed this. Apparently, it was established by investigators she was shot dead whilst trying to run away from the Nova music festival along with many others. Unclear why Hamas members chose to bring a dead body all the way back to Gaza, apart from some cheap and cynical propaganda stunt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,045 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    No evidence you say, so why was her bra pulled up and she was stripped down to her underwear?

    Come on man stop tying yourself up in knots trying to defend those savages.

    Did you also see the other video where they pulled a girl out of the back of a jeep and her tracksuit bottoms were covered in blood?

    Now without getting into graphic details we know what happened there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,514 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I repeat Israel has never claimed that Shani Louk was raped before being killed that day. They were able to pinpoint her movements and the exact place where she was shot dead on the road out of the festival, a road along which many festival goers others also fled - they established from forensic evidence that she was killed at the scene whilst escaping and was not alive when taken away (and they subsequently retrieved her body from Gaza).

    The most bizarre aspect of the story is why Hamas chose to bring an obviously dead woman to Gaza with them: they don't appear to have brought any other dead bodies to the enclave….clearly all the hostages were very much alive.



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