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Donald Trump the Megathread part II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,644 ✭✭✭brickster69


    How many tariffs has the EU put on the world currently, no good moaning when someone does the same. China still has to respond to the 40% tariffs on Ev's yet that were put on them last year.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,290 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,082 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The EU tariffs are justified based on China's market manipulation and are in line with WTO rules.

    Trump's tariffs are pulled out of nowhere and make no economic sense.

    Of course you know this already but to acknowledge it would involve you saying something bad about a BRICS country.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    That's exactly what tariffs are designed for, anti-dumping and anti-subsidy on specific products or industries. Which is why not all Chinese made EV's have the same tariff rate, it varies from 10% to 35% depending on the amount of subsidies each manufacturer receives from the Chinese government. It's the culmination of a year long investigation.

    You're trying to compare that to a made up flat rate % across the board by Trump that can go up or down on a whim or when the bond market gets too spooked?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,427 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    No blame on individual US tourists of course - unless they start spouting off unprompted about politics + expose their devotion to Donald Trump and the GOP!

    A few well deserved and justified EU tariffs on Chinese car companies (boo hoo!) seem in the ha-penny place beside effectively edit: sponsoring & supporting invasion and destruction of a European country that is an EU accession candidate. There's been no collective EU responses to that, unfortunately.

    Sure we now have one of their officials on the record apparently as saying they actually cannot accept Russia "losing" the war, which is pretty grim if they use an absolutist Putin definition of "win/loss" here (that wasn't clear I think from reporting on it). Still a bit gobsmacked by that, and the little attention it received, but there you go.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    The guy on BBC put it well

    “it’s like a hostage situation where the hostage taker is threatening to shoot themselves in the head”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,286 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,470 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Always does this around the weekend too, markets tank, his buddies pick their lips, he changes his mind again once markets open, rich people make more money.

    He hasn’t a clue what he is doing, not because he is senile, because he is a moron.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,496 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Tarrifs on Chinese ev's aren't the same though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,685 ✭✭✭Glencarraig


    Well of course but would love to see somebody with the balls to do it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,453 ✭✭✭arctictree


    Would be great to see Trump at a foreign press conference. They would rip him apart.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,015 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I dont know, when your reliant on your neighbor "Mexico" to stop illegal migrants and fentanyl going into the United States and you still raise their tariff rate, it's very counter productive and Mexico tomorrow can just stop policing the border and then watch out…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,955 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    So Trump is now threatening to revoke the citizenship of people who were born in the US simply because they disagree with him.

    Now, Imagine for one second if Biden had threatened Trumps wife or one of his friends like this.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,082 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    But free speech is under threat in Europe ... according to JD Vance and the "Im not a Trump supporter but" types who repeat his drivel here...

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭ilkhanid




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,102 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It'll be fine. The sex offender will back down on the tarriffs in a week.

    Post edited by breezy1985 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 859 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    He literally has no power to revoke the citizenship of a person born in America and if America were functioning correctly, any president who suggested this would be removed from office on grounds of impaired mental judgment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,621 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    She was born in New York.

    He has no legal power to revoke her citizenship.

    Trump threatens to revoke Rosie O'Donnell's U.S. citizenship | Reuters https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-threatens-revoke-rosie-odonnells-us-citizenship-2025-07-12/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Asking for full, completely open access for US goods into the EU market, whilst charging 30% the other way…. Just tells us everything about what the EU Trade people having been dealing with I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,190 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    She responded, and didn't hold back.

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    That "King Joffrey with a tangerine spray tan" is pretty epic to be fair.

    She's as American as he is, it shows his level of class threatening to revoke her citizenship.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,563 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Donald Trump is twice the pussy O'Donnell is



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,563 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Why can't we just threaten him with the likes of a barring order from ever visiting? If he want's to threaten people here then there is no reason to hold back. Seize his assets

    And don't tell me its has to be the EU that does that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,330 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It does tend to show, to those who choose to look at what he writes for public consumption, where his mind is going with his effort to destroy the citizenship right of those born in the U.S. contained in that base stone of the U.S. constitution.

    If SCOTUS, through turning its eyes sideways, lets him off with his efforts to destroy the constitution from the presidency, they and their kins citizenship rights will be included in what he destroys.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    Since the first post here about tarrifs this afternoon, not a word about Epstein. Another pointless, nonsensical post from the Donny about Rosie O'Donnell. And we're off on another tangent.

    Not a single post about Epstein.

    Say what you like about the orange powder puff, but he can get out of a tight spot better than Harry Houdini.

    He'd nuke Hawaii if he thought it'd take the heat off him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭spakman


    if your main focus is Epstien, you're wasting your time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,563 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    He'll probably say something about the Tuam babies thing next. With a straight face, either immunity or have the FBI come in and cover it up.

    Don't forget that he's threatening US owned pharma here. Some of those pharma companies were using kids in Ireland as guinea pigs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    It's the hypocrisy of the Epstein files that will turn some of his MAGA followers against him. If this benefits more liberals come the mid terms all the better.

    He'll blather his way through a failing economy and disastrous foreign policy, but they'll turn on him if they think he's been up to his neck in Epstein's debauchery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭maik3n


    I know it's all fun and games with this Rosie O'Donnell thing but the way SCOTUS is these days and the fact that the so called ''checks and balances'' are doing sweet fanny Adams, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Trump managed to claim some insurrection/treason act allows the President to deport natural-born US citizens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Not true: MAGA and QAnon and the other conspiricists are convinced that Dams, the Clintons and the Deep State run some sor of global paedophile enterprose. The Epstein case might help to counter this nonsense, and Pam Bondi's sudden discovery that there is nothing to see here, so move on, is deeply suspicious, even to a non-conspiricist like me.

    Of course Democrats have to be relentless on corruption and the Big Ugly Bill, but Epstein-like behaviour has been a big MAGA issue, so don't ignore it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    I have noticed a disturbance in the MAGA world on 'X'. Some of the Qtipper crowd were always more focused on uncovering the Great Paedophile Ring first and foremost and only loyal to Trump to the extent that they believed that he was their agent, the champion who was intent on uncovering and destroying it. They had their own cult, previous to Trump and aren't as insanely loyal to him in person as other MAGA factions. They were loyal to him insofar as they saw him as an outsider, outside the 'deep state'. If they begin to doubt his status or come to believe that he too, is part of the swamp, it may spell trouble for him. Carlson and Bannon may be already drifting in that direction.



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