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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,568 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Posted by George Conway, so it's real.

    People wanted more "gloves off" from the Democrats.

    I'd argue this definitely constitutes that approach...

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,318 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/11/politics/california-immigration-arrests-probable-cause

    Will this make any difference? Or will they carry on while appealing all around?

    CNN — 

    A federal judge on Friday found that the Department of Homeland Security has been making stops and arrests in Los Angeles immigration raids without probable cause and ordered the department to stop detaining individuals based solely on race, spoken language or occupation.

    While at the same time…

    DHS spokesperson Tricia McLaughlin condemned the ruling in a statement, saying, “A district judge is undermining the will of the American people.”

    No, just undermining the will of one American person, the rest have no say at all, they just don't know it yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,985 ✭✭✭✭briany


    As I understand it, those federal judge rulings now only have effect in the district in which they're issued, per the latest Supreme Court edict, yet MAGA are still complaining that federal judge rulings are being applied in their relevant districts. Hmmm….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Trumps tariffs for the EU just announced. Same also for Mexico

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    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,420 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    It'll be back to 10% in 2 weeks. TACO

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,348 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    5% less than Canada….



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,422 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Listen: I get that publicly the EU has to take this seriously as these idiot tariffs do have a catastrophic effect, but god it would be refreshing to see a public official call out these gibberish tariff numbers as the clown show they are and what bad faith ‘negotiators’ current US officials actually are. Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a dart board with random 1-100% numbers on it the White House is using to come up with these ‘announcements’.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    These "non tariff barriers to trade" that Trump & the US govt. keep rabbiting on about are ways European govt.'s (at a national level, or via the EU) have decided to order and run their societies, by will of people who live in these countries. We're all democracies here (apart from Hungary, which I think is now characterised as a managed democracy, or hybrid regime, and would not be able to acceed to the EU were it to try and join today).

    Who t-f do the US (and their multibillionaire oligarchs I suppose, who seem to back Trump) think they are making these kinds of demands of us? That is one thing which really annoys me about all this nonsense from Trump.

    Does the US Republican party now believe the EU member states are a kind of Warsaw pact group of complete and utter vassals to it's version of the USSR (if they really are trying to make the US into an autocracy under their rule)?

    Will they be considering sending in tanks and troops like "General Secretaries" of the old USSR used to if European govt.'s dare to tell them to shove it up their backside and the EU reciprocates their stupid tariffs?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,098 ✭✭✭growleaves


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123626217#Comment_123626217

    That's just a rehash of the rhetorical framing that failed to win the election for Kamala Harris eight months ago.

    If this was going to work as a political strategy, it would have already worked by now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Wonderful damning summary of Trump at present as he seeks to walk away whilst burying the Epstein Files.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    30% is ridiculous. I thought 10-15% was being talked about.

    I have no idea how Congress etc. are allowing this to happen. He is targeting Brazil over Bolsonaro, so the idea that these are emergency tariffs or whatever is obviously nonsense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,725 ✭✭✭yagan


    30%, 250%, 10% etc... he seems to just talk off his head.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭JVince


    Remember this is the same group of fools that imposed tariffs on uninhabited islands and then Howard Lutnik tried to defend it by saying the imposition of tariffs on the Heard and McDonald islands was meant to close "ridiculous loopholes" and would prevent other countries from shipping through the islands to reach the US.

    Its near impossible for a small boat to land on the islands let alone trans-ship goods from it.

    But the answer appeases the maga loyalists.

    Seems trump thinks that america has a phenomenal power over other countries and is trying to wield that power. But they no longer have the level of power trump thinks the US has and he's putting the US on a fast track to becoming far less relevant in modern society.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,481 ✭✭✭Rawr


    He talks a lot about Tariffs, but has he actually…*done anything* to make any of them happen?

    Has he even bothered with Executive Orders? Beyond that, it’s Congress itselt that needs to propose and pass changes like this.

    I’m starting to suspect that he might not know how to actually modify or impose a tariff. It’s not enough to simply say that you are going to do it. The US Customs and all manner of other systems need that change too. That seems like work, and work just gets in the way of Donnie’s «Executive Time».

    Given what he’s trying to do with Brazil, it’s clear that this is his go-to reaction for anything he doesn’t like. There’s no strategy, it’s just his Presidential Safety Blanket that he pulls out whenever reality makes him feel bad. Could we actually get to the point where everyone calls out Donnie’s bluff only to find out that he hadn’t actually done anything at all? That there was no mechanism for tariffs and that Donnie caused months of financial turmoil…just to fluff up his ego?

    It wouldn’t surprise me…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


    I'm pretty sure the 10% baseline tariff has been in effect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,420 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Bitcoin hit a new all time high yesterday after the notion that there was going to be an agreement. Trump and his crypto Bros likely cashed in. Today there's talk of tariffs and crypto wanes a little. The Bros will reload and the cycle will repeat. It's pure market manipulation.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,783 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    There's plenty of horrible people in the world but none bar Trump that I wish ill health and worse on.

    Every day he's in charge of the USA is a sad and worrisome day, not only for Americans but the rest of the world too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,783 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    You see all these so called experts saying that Bitcoin will crash. They haven't a clue, criminal organisations will keep it healthy. They have huge money invested in it and buy up more when things start to wane, then sell those extra shares when it rises again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭Iecrawfc


    I have to say too the arrogance of the Americans thinking they can tell the rest of the world what food to eat, what healthcare system to run is astounding, I dont care how 'irish' american tourists are they should know all about what tje rest of the world thinks of them in no uncertain terms



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭francois


    the bond markets will have their say again. TACO is full of shìte



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,452 ✭✭✭brickster69


    How many tariffs has the EU put on the world currently, no good moaning when someone does the same. China still has to respond to the 40% tariffs on Ev's yet that were put on them last year.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,670 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,150 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The EU tariffs are justified based on China's market manipulation and are in line with WTO rules.

    Trump's tariffs are pulled out of nowhere and make no economic sense.

    Of course you know this already but to acknowledge it would involve you saying something bad about a BRICS country.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    That's exactly what tariffs are designed for, anti-dumping and anti-subsidy on specific products or industries. Which is why not all Chinese made EV's have the same tariff rate, it varies from 10% to 35% depending on the amount of subsidies each manufacturer receives from the Chinese government. It's the culmination of a year long investigation.

    You're trying to compare that to a made up flat rate % across the board by Trump that can go up or down on a whim or when the bond market gets too spooked?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    No blame on individual US tourists of course - unless they start spouting off unprompted about politics + expose their devotion to Donald Trump and the GOP!

    A few well deserved and justified EU tariffs on Chinese car companies (boo hoo!) seem in the ha-penny place beside effectively edit: sponsoring & supporting invasion and destruction of a European country that is an EU accession candidate. There's been no collective EU responses to that, unfortunately.

    Sure we now have one of their officials on the record apparently as saying they actually cannot accept Russia "losing" the war, which is pretty grim if they use an absolutist Putin definition of "win/loss" here (that wasn't clear I think from reporting on it). Still a bit gobsmacked by that, and the little attention it received, but there you go.

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  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    The guy on BBC put it well

    “it’s like a hostage situation where the hostage taker is threatening to shoot themselves in the head”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,560 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,769 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Always does this around the weekend too, markets tank, his buddies pick their lips, he changes his mind again once markets open, rich people make more money.

    He hasn’t a clue what he is doing, not because he is senile, because he is a moron.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,276 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Tarrifs on Chinese ev's aren't the same though



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Glencarraig


    Well of course but would love to see somebody with the balls to do it.



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