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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Ah most apps are just reskinned Chrome. What it needs is a fix that stops the site **** bouncing around like it's having a fit on mobile.

    When the strip off the customisations it will probably work, but one wonders what will be lost. Thanks? Site structure? Moderation grades



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,716 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    This is just the mod team throwing the dummy out of the pram. The problem was never just CA, it was certain mods everywhere. One forum with no rules won’t fix a broken culture.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,733 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    And the posters who always have a cousin, in law, buddy working here there and everywhere who just so happens to ... well you know the rest.

    Well they wont be subscribing or seeing ads.

    Cos they dont exist.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,899 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    ”Its the septic tank of the forum”

    I don’t know if I’d go that far although things may change with the new lax rules over the coming days -but it was never a forum where you felt comfortable as a poster- most discussions become confrontational and petty for no real reason - if people want to post there fine- Reddit probably serves a similar purpose and does it better than CA-but not for the specialist topics -that’s still boards strong point



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,410 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    If you want to see what happens when a CA type thread is allowed to play out with a light touch, look at the below link. Okay, it's a long read, but it's a textbook example, it's actually instructive really, of a gradual devolution from debate, to argument, to fight, to complete incomprehensible insanity. From both sides, and with lots of the more fractious stuff removed.

    Maybe CA will buck this trend, but I'd expect more of this kind of rubbish.

    Anyway, don't know if I can say more, the die has been cast, in what feels like a desperate move. And, like another poster has said above, I think this'll probably turn more people away in the end.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,893 ✭✭✭✭Headshot




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Nail on the head. They clearly didn't take kindly to Odhrans comments about things needed to change on the moderation front. They needed to change though because moderation policy was not reflecting the views of the broad base of contributors

    Interesting approach taken instead of a mass resignation though. They may have chosen to take the hand off the tiller but they're still standing beside it.

    I suspect it will be walked back a bit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,901 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Makes you wonder what the motivation some people have for doing the job is in the first place.

    The rules were never really the problem. I personally didn't care about no anecdotes in the immigration thread, big deal.

    The problem was always that there are people lurking in those threads who's only interest is stirring things up and no matter how many times you report them they never receive a warning or a ban while others are immediately hit with bans for minor infractions.

    One user in a feedback thread recently stated that a CA mod told them that they do allow their personal biases to influence how the moderate the forum.

    I don't want a forum where far right loons can say anything they like and that's never been the case here but far left loons have free reign to break every rule going and when people point it out they're told it's tough sh1t because mods are volunteers etc. It just happens that boards has an abundance of left leaning volunteers so you get a massive left wing bias.

    There should be no bias ideally. No reasonable person should expect a discussion site like this to be coming down in favour of one type of extremist lunacy the way boards has been doing recently.

    Rules should be simple and enforced equally across the board. It's not that difficult.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I dont know what rule racist remarks would be breaking given under the new rules:

    "moderation will be limited only to anything illegal, abusive/threatening behavior or matters before the courts"

    I believe abusive behaviour is referring to behaviour against other posters not ethnic groups.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,901 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    If and when that walk back occurs they need to enforce the rules on the geniuses breaking them in CA this evening.

    Glazers Out!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,779 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    These are the new rules according to the mod instructions.

    "FROM 10/07/2025

    All forum bans in CA, except permanent bans, are now lifted and moderation will be limited only to anything illegal, abusive/threatening behaviour or matters before the courts."

    Who is breaking the rules?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 809 ✭✭✭_BAA_RAM_EWE




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    It would be illegal per "The Prohibition of Incitement to Hatred Act 1989". This sets out the law on hate speech.

    It says that it is an offence to communicate threatening, abusive or insulting material that is intended, or likely to, “stir up” hatred against a group of people because of their race, colour, nationality, religion, ethnic or national origins, membership of the Traveller community or sexual orientation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    You don't have to have a run in with a mod to see how mods can cause catastrophic decline in the quality of the site overall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,400 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Its whole creation was to contain the shíte overflow from AH.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭Dan Steely


    or by request, certain post count, record etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭Hungry Burger


    That was meant as a joke by the way as the Ukrainian car comments brought that rule in in the first place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Hey, all rules are lifted from what I can see. It's not the rules you disliked being lifted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,901 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    Spamming a thread with made up" funny" anecdotes to prove a point that didn't need to be made to begin with out of spite should be against the rules of any discussion site.

    You've gone in there this evening and made a show of yourself. Says more about you than anyone else or boards.ie.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,555 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The ‘I am not going to subscribe because you won’t run it the way I want’ posts appearing now neatly sum up the problem with a subscription model.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,899 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Maybe politics with its strict rules of debate and evidence backed opinion might shine now as a result - it’s probably not for me as a regular poster but then again less is probably more in Politics anyway- maybe ripping the label cover off CA/IMHO to reveal the true label of “Cesspit” is the right way forward- it’s never known what it wanted to be anyway since its inception



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,861 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    I appreciate the effort of volunteer mods and I thank them for that. I also fully understand how they can easily get overwhelmed by the sheer amount of content but the over-zealouness of some of the moderation and the inability to allow adults to strongly disagree was too officious. I believe it's unnecessary to be polite to someone who supports the killing in children in Gaza or thinks that refugee boats in the Mediterranean should be sunk irrespective of the deaths caused. As long as there's no swearing or name-calling I don't believe there's any need for fake civility.

    Mods have recently been reprimanding people in CA for offences such as having a negative tone to the posting. This drives people away. I stopped posting in CA after the Kneecap thread was shut down as there was a case before the courts. This was done despite the case being in the court system of England & Wales, an entirely different jurisdiction to the Republic of Ireland and there are no legal restraints whatsoever on forums outside England & Wales discussing the case. There are no legal ramifications. Same as with US cases which are discussed on this forum whilst ongoing. Consistency please. I pointed this out without success. Maybe it's a case of too few mods, or badly-advised ones but the CA forum isn't working.

    Nonetheless I shall probably be getting a subscription as I love the gigs, festival, soccer and other threads. I wish Boards and all the moderators well and am pretty sure it'll be fine as the reactions of support have been very positive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Unfortunately that is the problem with anecdotes. Anyone can make up stories.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭Hungry Burger


    It’s been the busiest it’s been in months. Don’t see anything posted by any poster over concerning to be honest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,367 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    It's an interesting development tonight for sure and after the novelty and messing wears off tomorrow, we'll see what happens.

    Interesting too that the primary objections seem to be by those who don't like the relaxation of what has almost universally been seen as counterproductive rules and sanctions.

    It's supposed to be a discussion site. That means you'll inevitably run across opinions and posters you disagree with. Counter their points constructively, scroll on, or block the poster if it really bothers you - but "free speech as long as I agree with it" is no solution.

    Fair play to the mods reviewing the position. I don't think I'd subscribe to the theory that it's some sort of rebellion to Odhran's comments earlier (seems a bit of a stretch and coping measure more so), but if the site is indeed potentially only weeks away from closure, drastic measures have to be taken!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,733 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    They have done a good job of making a show of how short sighted it is to just chuck the entire CA charter out the window.

    It seemingly does need to be made. It shouldnt need to be done but that's on whoever ok'd this course of action.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭iptba


    Plan to subscribe when the option is available (I can't see it at the moment) as I want the site to continue (rather than caring too much about ads).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,031 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I would say they're expressing a view in the form of parody, but parody or anecdotes are entirely within the remit of the rules. This is what you and other posters have been asking for. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,081 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    I think it’s quite telling that the most pushy and aggressive people on this thread happened to be the same ones complaining about supposedly being over moderated. And in doing so, highlighting that maybe they’re the problem.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,627 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Gas that the people who have spent the longest time wailing about too much moderation immediately switch to wailing about there being too little when the mods take a step back.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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