Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

Forest bought Elanga for 15m..sell him for 55m

United would buy for 55m and sell for 15m

And about getting business done early...for me Im tired of excuses over the past few years....no pre season, players need to integrate, not enough time on the training pitch, need to implement new ideas ans tactics

For me, it’s because we were in relegation form under Amorim since he joined but the whole talk was that he needed a pre season to get his players playing into his system. He was awful but I was willing to gloss over it as he does need time for players to gel.

When we start signing players but they don’t come until late in the window or after we begin the season, those players we’ll be told need time to get used to the system and that’s why they won’t hit the ground running.

I understand everything with PSR, the club not having bucket loads of cash, etc but it’s incredibly frustrating off the back of our worst season in 30+ years, the squad as it stands is largely the same.

Christ I would like to think a new keeper would have a huge impact on how our backline positions itself and behaves otherwise theres no point replacing him.

His performances can have an impact on the defenders. But nothing is stopping Amorim from telling his defenders to be 10 yards further forward in training or friendlies so that their positioning is correct. We could put Heaton in goals in training tbh and the rest of the team should be capable of playing in the positions and ways the coach wants.

When it comes to proper matches, then a lack of faith in Onana can be impactful, just as a lack of faith (or performances) in Hojlund can be impactful. But we can set up 'correctly' with those players.

Onana in goals doesn't stop us playing Amad rwb or Bruno CM.

Without Mbeumo, the position, the positioning, and requirements of so many other players and positions is impacted.

That's one of the most grim screenshots of the post Fergie era.

to be fair, it is sayig we would only look at them if we fail to get our targets.

So it isn't where we are at the moment. (Its where we will be in 7 weeks)

Newcastle were linked with DCL and in taks with Wilson on a pay/play deal.

Changing the overpaying for players culture of the last 20 years isn't going to change just by appointing a more clued in backroom team on transfers. Utd are going to miss out on players by sticking to their guns and not caving in to the selling club. It's not going to be solved in one transfer window and by having Wilcox at the head of it all. There will be frustration but hopefully long term its going to change how we're seen to selling clubs

but you do that by making bids to your value, then stepping away are going after alternative targets.

Drawing out the Mbeumo deal for a month, making it clear we have no real alternative to him that we are happy and ready to pivot to, waiting weeks between making bids (the second of which added near 25% to the base fee you offered) is not how you get rid of that rep.

That would be good aside from the fact we are still apparently stuck on Mbeumo, it'd be better if weeks ago we said no thank you and moved on. We appear to still be letting ourselves get strung along which just shows we've learned nothing really.

Its been near a month, how many possible alternatives to Mbeumo have moved elsewhere while we were waiting? Make at most two bids then move on, the selling club can either accept the bid or risk being stuck with a possibly unhappy/unsettled player. THATS what would change the reputation.

As frustrating as it is I really want Mbeumo, I think he's a game changer.

I agree with you and I belive that the two number 10s were picked because RA also believes this. Is mbuemo even back in UK yet?

He's in California at the minute. Not sure when he'd be expected back at Brentford.

Gossip mongers now reporting that he's getting pissed off at United's inability to seal the deal.

You and all of us pal.

Bench, CM, RWB.

I think a striker would have been signed over Mbeumo (with maybe Mbeumo an after sales purchase) if either Delap or Gyokeres had agreed to come to us. We then (i think) rated Mbeumo better than the remaining striker options.