Kilkenny GAA Thread

JJs Left Hand Blanchfield is my centre back, I think Carey plays the position better than Reid but I'd have been coaching/preparing Blanchfield for it all through the league, I understand his form had dipped a bit which didn't help matters.

That's just the Cork Examiner stirring it.

And if you read that post again the poster literally said their shouldn't be a replay.

Spoke with a few meath men coming out and they were saying the difference Robbie brennan has brought to that team is huge. Liam cahil got this tipp team back early last year and trained them very hard. Made some big calls and stuck by them. I've no doubt from talking to a few people up there herity is much more involved and is doing a great job. As we Al know yesterday's team is still Cody's team with molloy and Murphy in.3 years in and absolutely no stamp on his team.There was plenty of talk last night of lawlor going travelling. The county board haven't the balls to sack anyone and as I said it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the same u20 management was reappointed and the job is lyngs as long as he wants it. He got the job with no competition.Tactically again kk given a lesson which is common enough on big days. They say the likes of herity or Tom mullally wouldn't work with the county board. It's failure after failure at all grades bar 1 lucky u20 final for 10 years and people come on here and say it's over reaction. The county board have a lot to answer for. The players deserve better

What did Deegan, Reid and Carey cost us with mistakes yesterday ? Deegan muts have coughed up 1-4 or 1-5 ?

The goal was one which was criminal, in the first half we were all over Tipp and Deegan overhit a ball straight to the sideline, Morris got his first point, that was a big score for him and Tipp as it broke momentum as we were well on top, Deegan gave a poor free on Mccarthy under the Hogan, he was going nowhere and no need for it. The same with Ormonde under the Cusack(lucky to stay on), he was going nowhere, these resulted in 2 massive score for Forde when again we had Tipp on the run.

Richie Reid and Carey have there faults too but im not going into the same detail to type them, a few posters here are stating we are "unlucky" , "an all Ireland in this team" absolute no chance with the 3 mentioned playing, you can get a away with one like Tipp get away with Michael Breen but not all 3. Will the be same carry on next year in a semi final, Reid and Deegan will be found out for the 7/8th year in a row.

Jesus calm down, I said I hadn't seen anyone from Kilkenny looking for a replay which I stand over, apologies if I'm wrong but obviously that poster wasn't looking for a replay either so I have gotten my facts right “boss” Not sure why you're so offended… I certainly didn't mean any offence.

Scruff was an incredible shot stopper but he will be disgusted with the Mccarthy one and let in a few soft ones all year . His puckouts have being well highlighted.

Shelly had numerous puckouts yesterday where you'd remark how accurate and pinpointed they were. Not sure Eoin had a single one in the whole game. It's weird when he was such a good outfield hurler as well. Seems spooked by the idea of it even.

Fantastic servant and one of the greats but he's regressing and probably time to move on there as well

We stood off Tipp all day, no wonder he could get the ball to them. Even when we had an extra man we didn’t push up and make him play it towards our extra man.
A keepers puck outs are only as good as those who are capable of collecting it in the air, and we were not good in the air yesterday.

Agree, the big decision now is, are this team mentally fcuked and just don’t have that fight in them anymore.
no matter what, Lyng must go.
he inherited a side that might not have had the hurlers, but they had the fight. Now they don’t even have that, ( which has nothing to do with ability)

Tipp scored 24 scores yesterday.
I’ll be shocked if they beat cork with that amount of scores.
We were 7/8 points up and then behind and came back again and still lost to 14 players, and the team that beat us scored 24 scores.
And to all on here it’s not a shock, as it happened last year, earlier this year and again yesterday.

As well as the same players going missing on the big days. Tipp beat us with a bang average side yesterday, and everyone on here knows that.
24 scores, ….. time and again. Please..this is nothing short of a total embarrassment.
then look at last years semi final and minor final, and again this years U-20s and minor semi and now this.
Drastic changes needed to mgmt across all grades, and out with the older ones on this senior team. Numerous players, we’re not, are not and never will be at inter county standard.

And the county board saw it last year and the year before and voted them in again, and got the same result. The county board need changing too.

The woke brigade will be on here now saying we are negative, and thanks to the players. Please…

I disagree, i believe the team has great character and fight but are just not good enough, when your hurling leaves you down you are going to be punished and that is inevitable what happened.

My quick analysis on the team

Goalie: Needs to be replaced now, will be 36 next year. If Cody was here im sure he would be replaced already, need a new structure for puck outs that are short mid and long.

Backs: Need to be much tidier, too many basic hurling mistakes and indiscipline, absolutely massive problem at 6, Reid is a passenger, can carry Butler if we get a few tidier hurlers. Deegan and Carey not good enough come semi final and final.

Midfield: Excellent, if Molloy hits his 5th point he is man of match and we are 3 points up until Deegan coughs up a free at other end and then a goal.

Forwards: We just lack pace, we got in great positions the first 20 mins and had over laps but just don't have the speed to punish teams. Mullen could do with a spell on the bench. Joh Donnelly, Mossy, Tj all did there bit and more.

Yeah I mean they couldn't lose 5 finals in a row, could they?

I agree with most things you say on here Village 87, but I would question the mentality of this team. There are no leaders out there. If it was tweaking we still would have some leaders playing yesterday, but we had none.
Agree on the keeper, and the half backs.
And I thought the midfield were ok, but Tipp still played the ball from midfield into there forwards the way they wanted too. Both Kenny and Molloy are good, I’m not sure we can have both in midfield at the same time. We need an abrasive dogged battler beside one of them.

On the forwards.
With TJ gone, that’s 5 of them remaining.
we don’t have the replacements, but they just don’t have the battling elements needed to win an all Ireland. You could carry 3 of those 5 being on the pitch at the sane time, but no more.
Im going on tried and tested and tasted performances over the last 3 years. When the pressure is on, they don’t grab the game the are flapping or go missing.

Both are me feiner players, they rarely pass the ball.

I don’t see Cody & Mullen as top inter county hurlers anymore unless they become team players.

Tom Mullally has to be the next Kilkenny manager but I wonder will Shefflin go for it?

This year you would have to question as to how so many players have been way off their best form. Is it down to the management or the players and how they applied themselves since November. Some players look burned out or unfit for whatever reason. I thought yesterday there was too many people involved with the team on the pitch and that the warm up was all over the place.

It looks like we dont have 20 top players at elite level good enough to win an All-Ireland at the moment and its very hard to see that changing in the near future. Since 2015 we have taken our eye off the ball as regards coaching and an arrogance and complacency has come into hurling in the County. We think we have a right to win all games at all levels without hunger, hard work and doing the basics right. All the top counties have come up with systems to beat us and we have not learned from that. Yesterday was our first real test all year and we failed.

Hopefully things will change in the coming years ahead or it will be another 11 years before we win one.