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Switching electric/gas providers (see first post for links)

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  • #12842
    Gooser14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123602451#Comment_123602451

    It depends on whether it would be cheaper for them if they switched. EI do a smart 24 hr plan with 30% discount. Unit rates incl VAT 23.82 & standing charge €250.77 urban, €314.98 rural.

    If they have the smart meter for 12 months or more they could register with esbnetworks.ie & download their data file. This file can be uploaded to bonkers.ie or energypal.ie to find the best plan based on their usage.



  • #12843
    wassie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,524 ✭✭✭wassie


    You can download data from ESB after 1 month, not 12 months

    Bonkers requires 12 months of data, energypal accepts any amount (i.e. 1 month or more).



  • #12844
    DayInTheBog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    I was onto Flogas about the bwg deal.

    I asked about length of duration. It runs from April 2025 to Sept 26 so there's not quiet the 18 months left

    Also asked about the confusion on the t&C's over the tarriff and SC varying. She confirmed it's bwg who set the t&c but that the plan is fixed regarding the tariff. Standing charge can vary.

    I renewed over the phone as based on my usage while not the cheapest, there wasn't much in it and it's fixed for the next 15 months. No doubt rates will increase as they always do

    Tarriff

    D 26 49

    N 13.55

    SC 313.89

    Fit 18.5

    Post edited by DayInTheBog on


  • #12845
    Greg Malkovic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 ✭Greg Malkovic


    I would say this Electric Ireland - Home Electric+ Saver 30% flat rate plan is best available on market right now



  • #12846
    Sultan of Bling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,080 ✭✭✭Sultan of Bling


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123605752#Comment_123605752

    Is this a smart plan?



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  • #12847
    Greg Malkovic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 ✭Greg Malkovic


    yes



  • #12848
    jasonb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭jasonb


    It's that time of year again, time to renew! I'm currently with Energia 37% Day/Night for Electricity (26.3c Day and 12.6c Night incl Vat) and Airtricity Home Gas 20% (9.1c incl Vat).

    I've looked at Switcher, and it's telling me that I could save over €800 for electricity by going with Bord Gais New Elec 32%, but the rates look slightly higher to my current rates. Is the Switcher website basing its calculations on my standard rates from Energia, not on the discounted 37% rates?

    I currently have a Smart meter, but have not been on a Smart Plan yet. The last time I looked into renewing it was felt that you shouldn't sign up to a Smart Plan, as then you would be stuck on Smart plans from then on (or something like that!). Has that general concensus changed?

    Also, I have an EV and charge that at night, so are there any EV friendly plans I should be aware of?

    And finally, is Fixed a better option at the moment (like the BWG offer for example). Should we assume prices will always inevitably go up? :)

    Thanks!



  • #12849
    Escapees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭Escapees


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123606978#Comment_123606978

    For first query, Bonkers lets you enter specific supplier discounts if the particular one you're on isn't listed. All other queries seem to have been addressed on the last few pages of this thread



  • #12850
    Gooser14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123606978#Comment_123606978

    If you haven't done so already I'd suggest you register your account with esbnetworks.ie. This will enable you to download you usage data file & this can be uploaded to energypal.ie or bonkers.ie to establish the best plan for your usage.

    Like you, I was on the Energia day/night 37% discount plan but recently changed to their Smart Data 33% discount plan. I had to activate my meter for this plan.

    Discounted prices, incl vat:

    Day 25.21c

    Peak: 26.42c

    Night: 13.49c

    SC (rural) €300. 91 pa

    I don't have an EV so there might be better plans for your needs.



  • #12851
    jasonb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭jasonb


    Yeah, even though I am entering the Energia 37% tariff name, it really looks like it's comparing prices with the non-discounted Energia rates. Which also means it looks like my current Energia plan is at least as good as I can find out there, with not too many savings to be made. The Aritricity Gas Plan does look like it can be improved on.

    I'm not sure about the Smart Plan stuff, people seem to be less worried about switching to one, but it still means you can never switch back. As for the EV plans, they all seem to be for about 4 hours at night only, and I don't think I would save enough on the EV rates to make up for the higher rates during the other 20 hours. But I'll keep running the sums and see!



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  • #12852
    jasonb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭jasonb


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123607237#Comment_123607237

    Thanks for that. I have a smart meter, but I'm on a non smart D/N plan. If I register with esbnetworks.ie, does that "activate" my smart meter? It's something I may end up doing anyhow, if I choose a smart plan, but I just want to see if registering to get the data activates it?

    Just tried Bonkers.ie instead of Switcher, and it is telling me what I suspected, my current electricity rates are basically better than anything out there. Definitely money to be saved on Gas, but nothing on Electricity that I can see. So I am probably gonna take a hit on changing Electricity, but make up for it by changing the Gas.



  • #12853
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,686 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123607334#Comment_123607334

    no it doesn’t activate the meter, check energy pal when you have your data file

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • #12854
    Gooser14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123607334#Comment_123607334

    Registering with esbnetworks does not activate the meter. When I spoke to energia they were not prepared to offer a non smart plan.



  • #12855
    jasonb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭jasonb


    Thanks a lot… I tried registering with them and it said it can't link my MPRN, so it looks like I will have to ring them (and I'm assuming Monday is the earliest I can do that!).



  • #12856
    Escapees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭Escapees


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123607494#Comment_123607494

    Make sure you are entering the full account name exactly as it is on your current provider's bill (especially for the case of a joint account) and the same for your contact number...



  • #12857
    jasonb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭jasonb


    Yeah, it's the same name (it's just my name) and the same mobile number. I've tried adding "Mr" as that appears on the bill, but no difference. I will give them a ring on Monday and see what they say.



  • #12858
    Nollog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭Nollog


    Switcher and bonkers both did nothing for me last week, so i went to the supplier manually and got the switch email 2 minutes later.

    weird?



  • #12859
    jasonb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭jasonb


    A quick update… I rang ESB Networks and they had me sorted in minutes (they didn't have a record of my Mobile number apparently). However, I only have a a Smart Meter since October, so I don't have the year's data that Bonkers needs. Energy Pal was happy to accept the file though, and they have suggested Energia Smart Data & 33% discount. All of the plans recommended are Smart Plans, that might just be because it's a Smart Meter.



  • #12860
    bren2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,654 ✭✭✭bren2001


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123612366#Comment_123612366

    If you have an activated smart meter, you're only eligible for smart tariffs. Some smart tariffs are 24 hour, or D/N and mimic non-smart tariffs. However, they're still considered smart tariffs (or smart plans).

    If you're not activated, you're eligible for both.



  • #12861
    jasonb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭jasonb


    Yeah, I'm not activated yet, but have a D/N Smart Meter. Obviously if I go with the Smart Plan then that will be that going forward. Just gonna compare the "Energia Smart Data & 33% discount" with the BWG and Axa offers that have been mentioned here to see how they stack up.

    Edit: A quick check shows the BWG one isn't quite as good, but the Energia Axa 33% is almost the exact same as the "Energia Smart Data & 33% discount" (as you'd expect, it's the same 33%), with only .01c in a difference in the tariffs, but the Dual version of the Axa 33% comes with the cheapest Gas price I've seen (7.66c) so I think I'll go with that. It will be nice to have both Gas & Electricity with the same supplier again.

    Does anyone know if there's an issue switching to the Energia 33% plan if you're already a customer with them? I clicked on "Switch Now" and when I entered the MPRN it said I had to ring them, does that mean they'll check my link with AXA?

    Thanks!



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  • #12862
    cena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,242 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Best price on electricity. It is time to switch from flogas.

    Bill came in this morning and I'm paying 64 cent a unit

    Not on a smart plan



  • #12863
    OmegaGene
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,686 ✭✭✭✭OmegaGene


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123620392#Comment_123620392

    use one of the switching companies and energypal and see what they advise, there isn’t a one size fits all

    The internet isn’t for everyone



  • #12864
    faolteam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭faolteam


    Hi Folks so im on that 18 month contract with BWG flogas offer and the missus is getting an EV car does a lot of local driving , should i just stay on that offer DG1 24HR DF BAFF FIXED APR25 RN or move to a smart meter as i have heard you cant switch back interested in your answers



  • #12865
    DayInTheBog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123620392#Comment_123620392

    They have have a bwg offer linked on this thread. 24hr or day/night fixed to sept 26.



  • #12866
    cena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,242 ✭✭✭✭cena


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123620606#Comment_123620606

    Do you know how far back it is? I don't fancy going through all the pages



  • #12867
    DayInTheBog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123620626#Comment_123620626

    https://www.flogas.ie/price-plans/bwg-affinity-rate-res-offer/



  • #12868
    bren2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,654 ✭✭✭bren2001


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123620527#Comment_123620527

    Once you switch, you can't switch back.

    Smart meter likely the way to go with an EV. The following thread likely more suitable for you:

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058226818/best-electricity-plan-for-new-ev-owners



  • #12869
    jasonb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,385 ✭✭✭jasonb


    Well, I can't get the "Energia Smart Data & 33% discount" as I'm an existing customer. The best they can offer me is a 30% plan. But I can get slightly cheaper offer with Electric Ireland "Home Electric +SST Saver 30%" and that's also a dual fuel plan with a decent Gas price, so that's what I am going with. It's frustrating putting in all this work just to get less of a price increase, never mind a saving, but there's nothing close to my current 37% discount on Electricity

    Thanks for all the advice here as usual. I was gonna say see you all again next year, but it looks likely that there won't be a boards.ie by then!



  • #12870
    Gooser14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Gooser14


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123621157#Comment_123621157

    That's strange. I was an existing customer (non-activated) smart meter & they allowed me to switch to the Smart Data 33% (activated meter).



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  • #12871
    CoBo55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,221 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123621157#Comment_123621157

    I think the Flogas BWG 24hr smart plan is cheaper 23.44c with 237 standing charge.

    https://www.flogas.ie/price-plans/bwg-affinity-rate-res-offer/



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