Israel/Palestine Thread

I supplied two sources. You just ignored them as usual.

You say you only quote corroberated sources like RTE, BBC etc.

Please provide an RTE, BBC, IRISH TIMES discussion of the Lancet letter if its so credible.

You have been accused by numerous posters over numerous months of holding what they would describe an antisemetic position. It's not just me. You should reflect on that maybe.

I'd say I'm doing just fine.

I just debunked one posters claims of 400k missing bodies, and another posters continued insistance on the validity of a letter that even the authors have disowned. Both attempts at Pro-Hamas propaganda misinformation.

Are you still persisting with your Gaza 'Palestinian free zone' hyperbolic nonsense.

You're old enough to know that Politians play to their bases, and that not every word that emanetes from their mouths should be taken literally.

There won't be any annexation of Gaza at the end of the war.

This takes the biscuit for one of the oddest posts on the thread.

It's laughable that the government in Westminster claims that Israel has the right to self determination yet at the same time block the Scots from theirs. The hypocrisy runs deep.

The Scots had a referendum in 2014. The notion that anyone is blocking them is just Provo bullsh*t. The had their chance and voted to remain in the Union. You can't be having a referendum every 10 years to check the mood. They'll get their chance again in due course.

It's a good example of the same Provo nonsense that the British are blocking an Irish Unity referendum. They're not. The numbers are just not there yet, and may never be.

No nation has the right to self determination at the expense of the rights of other people. Especially when there is a bottomless pit of human rights violations.

This, I guess, is just your way of saying Israel is an illegal Zionist settler colony and has no right to exist?

Misinformation is common and has been for a long time, it's not unreasonable for someone to take those figures at face value. There is no underlying desire for a higher death toll.

Taking them at face value is one thing. Knowingly posting false informatiion is another.

You didn't answer my question. Why would people continue to post incorrect numbers unless for propganda puropses.

You should probably read this for a start.

https://www.euronews.com/2025/04/03/hamas-run-health-ministry-quietly-removes-thousands-from-gaza-death-toll-researchers-find

It's never quite explained why Irish people would have a major issue with the Jewish faith. What would be the reason? The Jewish community in Ireland is very small but well integrated and has never been a source of tension or acrimony.

The real reason we feel free to criticise the far right Netanyahu government and the IDF is a) we have never been a colonial power or occupied anyone and b) we don't actually have a history in Ireland of anti-Semitism or discriminating against Jewish people.

You would want to be careful of throwing around accusations of anti-Semitism at individual posters btw, you're sailing a bit close to the wind here.

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Your always very quick to ask me to supply citations.

I'm still waiting for the BBC, CNN, ITV, RTE validations of this letter that you're going to provide any moment now.

I'm accusing them of being a racist, apartheid state, whilst also still admitting their right to self determination and to exist as a state (which takes me straight off your 'anti-Semitic' criteria).

Zionism is not Judaism. I'll not even bother to go down the rabbit hole you want me to engage in.

IHCR also states

"Criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic"

Israel is openly engaging in a genocide and is an apartheid state. Until it rights these wrongs then it's behaviour will be questioned and legitimacy of taking lands agreed to in 1967 UN resolution.

More lies. The conspiracy runs deep doesn't it?

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No. You made a completly diffferent statement. You didn't reference the state of Israel at all.

You said: The far right, racist and very violent entity known as Zionism.

This is a reference to Zionism, not a currently existing state, Zionism being a political asperation that supports the self-determination and statehood for the Jewish people in their ancestral homeland, the Land of Israel.

It's a deliberate worded statement that the Jewish desire for a homeland is in itself an inherently racist endavour, which as I pointed out is an anti-semitic statement as per IHRA working defination of antisemitism below.

Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.

You're just trying to wriggle out of it now.