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Garden office- a few questions

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  • #62
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,588 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123122999#Comment_123122999

    We don't know the details. Maybe it was none of his business. Or maybe it affect their property value.
    Plenty of neighbourhood sheriffs around. But also plenty of inconsiderate asshole neighbours.



  • #63
    sell9999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 ✭sell9999


    Has anyone experience of other suppliers compared to Steeltech.
    Looking for a garden room for teenagers rather than home office.

    Would prefer options that don't require a concrete base such as Sprout Pod if anyone has gone done that route.
    Or reasons to avoid



  • #64
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,464 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123123196#Comment_123123196

    they are the exact same thing, its simply an outdoor room at the end of the day. Can go with steel frame, timber, they are the two more common ones. Google garden room or donedeal it, you will get endless results and ideas…

    you can go with a timber frame and block foundation or ground screws. What puts you off the concrete slab?



  • #65
    sell9999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 ✭sell9999


    The concrete slab seems more permanent for down the line if the garden room was no longer required.

    Already have a 14 foot hole with two tons of drainage stone under a redundant trampoline

    There's not much detail about the steel subframes Sprout use, interested to hear from anybody who has gone that route.

    Is there damp proofing underneath or is it installed onto bare ground.



  • #66
    dinneenp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123123196#Comment_123123196

    I'm the OP and was looking at Steeltech and multiple others. Went with Shanette, less expensive, more insulation & better finish imho.



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  • #67
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,901 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123357372#Comment_123357372

    Learned the hard way with our recent Steeltech garage, that they have a new system for the concrete floor. You first pour a frame (like a picture frame) with the center empty. Then they come and put up the shed. Then, you pour again in the empty party, overlapping the original frame as well. Then you send them a video showing how you drive up to the frame and the frame itself, plus pictures of the frame showing the size is right.

    This 2-phase pad build is ridiculous imo. You need to get the mason twice, and the second time, they're pouring indoors, which is more challenging for them especially the floating of the concrete as they're doing it whilst, at times, standing in the wet concrete. Plus, I've been cleaning up little bits of stray concrete that ended up here and there in the garage for months now and still not done. Masons did excellent work, but ours was a very challenging job.

    I've stopped recommending steeltech to friends as a result. I believe their new system, is for their own benefit as the installer can work very quickly and do multiple jobs/day. Our garage went up in about 1.5 hours including the rollaway door, which was a bit tricky to fit.

    Anyway, just FYI hopefully your install goes/went well.



  • #68
    Umpalumpa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    I've been pricing garden rooms with Shanette,Steeltech and Adman.

    Main issue for me has been getting the concrete base done.We have no side access so everything through the house.

    Prices range from €4600 to 8k.Base has to be for an overhang Method with a second pour after install.This obviously brings up the price.

    Plan to have a chatt with Adman tomorrow to see how they compare with the other 2 and if their base requires a second pour.

    Anyone buy from Adman before?

    I'm looking for a 5.2mx3m



  • #69
    dinneenp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    PM sent with contact number for who I used for concrete.



  • #70
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,901 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123605464#Comment_123605464

    We did a garage with Steeltech last year. I hate their new requirements for concrete base - they require you pour the base in 2 phases. First phase is a 'photo frame' that's empty in the centre; once that's cured, they come out and install the shed. Then, you pour a cap layer all the way to edges of the base.

    The problem is the 'cap layer.' You need your mason to come and work again inside the installed shed. This is very difficult for them, and leaves something of a mess with little bits of concrete everywhere that I'm still scrubbing off.

    The mason couldn't readily 'float' the cap layer because they had to stand in it to do the floating.

    I'd look into this in some detail with steeltech before choosing them; if one of the other manufacturers you mention just does a conventional shed - pour the pad once and then they mount it, I'd choose them.

    Also, you need to provide lots of pictures of the pad to Steeltech and a camera video showing access to it so they can bring in their truck and all.

    Good luck!



  • #71
    Umpalumpa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    Ye the company I spoke to about the base said they have done a few bases for Shanette and its not an easy job and gave me a double quote as its basically 2 jobs to pour €4600 total.

    The company recommended Adman sheds as they are 1 pour only.Adman price a bit more expensive but will prob work out cheaper as the base won't be as expensive.Just need to see if the quality of shed is the same



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  • #72
    Umpalumpa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    Any give advise on insulation.

    Looking at Adman multi room 4x4m and they only offer 40mm kingspan in the walls and 25mm in the floor.

    I know people say get as much insulation as possible but is 40mm enough.The room will.be used as an office



  • #73
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,464 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    How much are these? Would you not be better of getting a custon garden room build ? 40mm is pretty skimpy, would be thinking 70 or 80mm acceptable. .



  • #74
    Umpalumpa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    It comes in at 13k.Prewired and ready to use.

    SHanette is 10800 but just shed shell with 40mm insulation but the option to insulate more and slab it out



  • #75
    10-10-20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,437 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123606040#Comment_123606040

    Yes, that's the problem alright - floating the complete surface is a pain. I did mine by pouring a strip down the middle of the shed to make a path which created two bays either side, then I filled those bays off the path individually, meaning that I could kneel down on the path and take my time at floating. Silly, and made some extra work for me, but got it done in the end.



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