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US/Israel conduct airstrikes on Iran again

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,110 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Maybe I followed the same path you took to arrive at your conclusions about me? I see there's more ad hominen here - 'spouting faux outrage', can you indicate anywhere that I suggested anyone chant 'death to Israel'?



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Trump is a t**t whose MO is to create a problem where there was none before and then proceed to claim he “solved” it

    His only desire is media spotlight and adoration from his cult members because his daddy was mean to him or something



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,365 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    this is also true. So when you ask why Iran has enriched uranium to 60 per cent and will in all likelihood now go for the bomb, you have answered your own question



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    They tried to create a problem and it backfired spectacularly

    If only they spent a fraction of all that effort on I don’t know maybe bettering the lot of their own people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,365 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    No. As you you say trump caused the problem, as he creates problems for his own people and general international security,.

    Perhaps he should step down and make things better for his own people instead of getting involved in illegal forever wars in countries tens of thousands of miles away to support genocide and ethnic cleansing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    In a thread with Israel literally in the title. Are you serious?
    What next? Discussion of Trump in the Trump thread! 🙄

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Watching BBC News this evening - a whistleblower is calling out the IDF for the murders they’ve committed - very little place to hide now!



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    The Persians are meant to be smart bunch with political history going back thousand of years, yet their unelected “leaders” willingly walked the country into a disaster and now some of those “leaders” are busy getting suntans in hell



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,537 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    It wasn't backfiring until Netanyahu decided to further his own aims.

    Iran's signalling, and clear signalling at that, was working. Both them and the US were back around the negotiation table talking about Iran's nuclear capabilities and the limitations by which she could operate within them. It's obvious that the Iranian's were seeking to reignite the JCPOA, because under the terms of it they had favourable worldwide trading circumstances with elimination of sanctions. That disappeared overnight when Trump took the US out of it.

    More than likely, some sort of settlement would have been achieved if Netanyahu hadn't scuppered those talks with his attack. An attack that was deliberately timed to disrupt those talks.

    It's Netanyahu's Israel that is the bad actor here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,365 ✭✭✭Tazz T


    They did not walk their their country into anything. Thats like saying the native population of America walked themselves into genocide. Iran was attacked by israel to draw another nation thousands of miles away bent on world dominance to support it's genocidal supremacist aims in the middle east. Here end my interactions with you. Its clear where your fielties lie.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    So am I right in thinking you believe Iran enriching uranium to 60% for so called domestic use isn't a problem?

    In other news Iran after kicked the nuclear inspectors out are currently laying mines in the strait of Hormuz and explosions are still happening in Iran with the leadership in lockdown.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Are Iran “currently laying mines in the strait of Hormuz”?

    Do you have a link to a source for that?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    If you Google it, it comes up on the first page

    https://www.google.com/search?q=mines+being+laid+in+hormuz&oq=mines+being+laid+in+hormuz&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTE0MjY0ajBqNKgCAbACAQ&client=ms-android-xiaomi-terr2-rso2&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,972 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Claim "In other news Iran after kicked the nuclear inspectors out are currently laying mines in the strait of Hormuz"

    1.jpg

    https://www.irishtimes.com/world/middle-east/2025/07/02/iran-abandoned-plans-to-use-maritime-mines-in-blockade-of-hormuz-strait/

    Reality no they are not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Google shows a story about Iran preparing to lay mines a month ago but o couldn’t find anything about Iran “currently laying mines”.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭DayInTheBog


    And yet other sites saying there's no evidence they've unloaded them.

    News channels I was watching tonight saying mine laying has started.

    It really does depend on your source.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,972 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Provide your source then. That should clear everything up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Yes, you are right. Some sources cannot be trusted.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Lawlesz


    Just so you know, he is gonna tell you to google it.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    It is a problem because the only “domestic use” of doing so at this scale is to build nuclear weapons

    The Iranians turns out are even stupider than Trump



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,906 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Reality doesn't depend on your news source. Your choice of news source does affect how attached to reality you will end up being

    Ban billionaires



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭brickster69


    During the 12 day war nearly 12K homes in Israel were officially reported as being damaged. Iran launched 500 missiles in that time of which 90% were shot down before entering Israel or over Israel and half that landed were on military installations which were under a news blackout.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,447 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Following a classified briefing with intelligence agencies a US senator say's new information proves Iran were days away from making a nuclear bomb.

    He did not bother to ask where the information came from which proved that.

    The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters. — Antonio Gramsci



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭mikethecop


    So you are happy for PA to attack and endanger the life's of totally innocent people because you feel they are morally right. i assume they will still have your unflinching support when they kill some one ? would you rather it be a policeman or some airport staff ? how about some Ukrainian children due to sabotage they committed because they are to morainic to know what they are doing .

    or are you going to refuse to reply and patter on about Israel again ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,182 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Always thinking about the children Mike. Just some more than others.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,110 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Firstly, I get to post as I see fit within the rules of the forum - you have no say or control over that no matter how irritable you may find it.

    Secondly, I've previously stated that broadly speaking the actions of PA are reasonably minor and broadly symbolic, they won't alter policy on their own - they follow in the traditions of the Greenham Common women and others. However, the UK government are pursuing PA as part of an ongoing strategy to weaponsie anti-semitism and suppress the opposition movement against the mass slaughter of children in Gaza, the forced starvation of those who survive and the mass displacement of innocent people by the Israeli government and the IDF - the same actions are being repeated in other countries who are supporting said slaughter such as the US and Germany. The activities of PA are insignificant when held up to the criminality and barbarism of Israel and their allies in terror.

    Thirdly, as for your contention about whther my assumed support for PA and will it continue if they 'kill someone' - it's slighlty bizarre that you're posting with apoplectic rage about something that hasn't happened but are utterly non plussed about the actual lived reality of the horror that is Gaza.

    Lastly, Ukranian children have been murdered by the attacks from Russia and it's military - it's abhorrent, however Russia is being held to account on some level - political, economic, sporting and cultural isolation and 18 rounds of sanctions, however the people who have agitated for and organsied those repercussions for Russia are the same people who are providing the hardware and finance to murder the children of Gaza in massive numbers - the hypocrisy is shameful. Yet, here you are absurdly holding PA to account while the IDF and Netanyahu escape your ire.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,943 ✭✭✭SeanW


    Sorry is the "Palestine Action" terrorist group that is sabotaging European military equipment?

    You do realise that the reason European countries are re-arming is because of the threat posed to this continent by Russia? By sabotaging military gear (e.g. refuelling planes) PA aren't actually helping "Palestine" (really just Hamas) but Russia.

    For that reason alone, everyone involved with this outfit deserves everything they have coming.

    And nobody is "non plussed about the actual lived reality of the horror that is Gaza."

    We just don't blame Israel for the same reason we didn't blame Winston Churchill for the hardships Germans faced in Berlin in 1944 and the first half of 1945 … Remember, Hamas could end this any time they wanted, by surrendering and/or withdrawing from Gaza. Just like Karl Doenitz did in 1945.

    https://u24.gov.ua/
    Join NAFO today:

    Help us in helping Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭mikethecop


    Firstly you care of course to post any pointlessness you like 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️.

    Secondly. Minor actions of PA include spitting at and harassing random Jews in Dublin hotels , smashing and vandalising and other childish criminal activities . What Aid did the Greenham Common protesters give to enemy nations actively engaged in the invasion of a independent European nation. Trying to paint them as hero's is frankly a poor effort at misinformation on your part. PA are not peace activists of any kind . If you want a comparison your going to have to try harder.

    Thirdly . PA are at best morainic and incompetent common criminals at worst acting in aid of putin. this has been proven by their actions on a number of occasions already. So they haven't killed anyone yet but your willing to support them when they do eh ? I hope is isnt gona be anyone you know . I wonder what happens when a plane full of people away on their holidays hits a van full of PA terrorists on their way to smash up a DHL depo or some other unconnected target (again) You seem ok with the idea that violence is ok as long as your outraged enough , I wonder if that works the other way too ? or just with your own specific moral compass ??

    Lastly , You have no issue so with PA acting in actual and physical support of Russia and putin at the expense of innocents.

    You do know whose side you are on right ?

    Why are you try to suggest that Im ''Posting is apoplectic rage '' ? Try and stay rational pleasey

    Slava Ukraine



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    As a consistent pro Russian colonial war of conquest supporter

    Do you have any comments on dear leader Putin stabbing Iranian “allies” in the back and calling Israelis as “family” and doing zero to help?

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-says-he-considers-israel-a-russian-speaking-country/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭mikethecop


    I guess you can do as you like as long as your motivation ''popular enough '' Right ?



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