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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Both Murderbot and Empire have won Hugos and others. A Memory Called Empire Hugo in 2020, its successor A Desolation Called Peace Hugo in 2022, All Systems Red (Murderbot) Hugo for novella in 2018, Network Effect (Murderbot) Hugo 2021 Nebula 2020 and Locus 2021.

    I google for awards & nominations like yourself after that Goodreads or Amazon 'others who liked this book liked those books'. I found stuff via this thread. Sometimes I just take a chance or I come across something older I somehow missed and then I go through the entire works of that author. The more you read the harder it gets alright.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,248 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    I dont think the Hugo has been any good for the last few years, utter crap like Lady Astronauts and other stuff that would have been completely below average and ignored in past years win it regularly now. All the famous series of recent times like Joe Scalzi, Murderbot, Andy Weir etc are very childish and badly written compared to back in the day when a Hugo award meant you knew you were about to read an instant classic of the genre.

    It all has a whiff of the booktok trend in recent times, mass produced and dumbed down, there will be AIs churning it out soon if they arent already. Goodreads is an absolute sewer now where years ago it was a good place to find something worth reading.

    Adrien Tchaikovsky is the only one I can think of who has bucked that trend in the modern era and his stuff hasnt exactly been earth shattering since Children of Time either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,216 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Saw some recommendation on anther forum of series I had never really heard of. Anyone any comment before I maybe delve into one. 1) Memory, Sorrow & Thorn series and 2) Sword of Shadow series.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Yes there has been a trend towards adolescent literature and a lot of its themes are infantile, ego-centric and fabric conditioned reflecting a generation that has been told how special they are from day 1 and then had their brains fried by social media.
    But giving out about it and its effects on literature and entertainment would only make us sound like old people IMO.

    But I like Murderbot and while it's not high brow prose - Martha Wells never really was - it's not soo dumb that it offends me. It's quite witty in places and I just like it. Quite a lot even.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,856 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Tad Williams (Memory, Sorry, Thorn) is an excellent writer and that series is an 'edge of the seat' epic fantasy. Definitely worth reading. If you like cats, Tailchaser's song is an entertaining, 'Watership down' stand-alone fantasy novel by him. I don't particularly care for his Otherland series, could never get deep into it, though.

    The followup series to Memory, Sorrow and Thorn wasn't as good, but I read M/S/T when it was new and the followup recently, so a lot of time had passed and I'd forgotten the original quite a bit.

    Never heard of the Sword of Shadow series nor its author.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    I'd say that N.K. Jamisin's Broken Earth trilogy would rank among the best and was a well deserved winner in my opinion. I'd agree some of the more recent winners that I've read have a YA feel to them, e.g. Some Desperate Glory was an ok read but nothing that special.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,248 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Yeah I definitely wasnt writing off everything in recent times, Broken Earth is absolutely amazing, you have to admit the quality trend is definitely downwards though, I have absolutely nothing on my radar Im looking forward to either, maybe if Rothfus gets some help and finally writes the Doors of Stone, not a hope of ever seeing Winds of Winter now nevermind the final book.

    If anyone is stuck for something to read like me then I highly reccomend The Second Apocalypse by R Scott Bakker, best thing Ive ever read by a county mile.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭Fian


    Just agreeing with comments on memory sorrow and thorn.

    I have also never heard of the sword of shadows as a title for the series but i have read JV jones and i also would recommend them. The bakers boy is quite similar to memory sorrow and thorn in fact, with a bakers boy rather than a kitchen boy as the protagonist obviously.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    Currently reading the Silo books, currently on the last one. The concept is good, but not exactly page turners and a little depressing. Need something more upbeat after these, I think.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    God I hated those books with a passion, just so contrived and thee characters are just terrible, this is Sanderson's main weakness. I've read other stuff from him, just to be sure and he's got great concepts for books, but absolutely no idea how write them. Pretty confident I'll never read another book he writes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,248 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    I absolutely despise his one dimensional characters, especially the females and the antagonists.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Loved Wool but thought the rest of the trilogy was weaker, second book in particular. By the same author, the Sand books are also quite enjoyable. For something light and frivilous after Silo, try Hugh Howey must die!

    I usually have one written book on the go for a bedtime read and an audiobook times I'm cooking, working outdoors etc. Current audiobook is Death of the Author by Nnedi Okorafor which I'm realy enjoying, having previously read her Binti series (which were fun but a bit YA). The main character, an author, is miserable while also entertaining and the book really has me wanting to try out some Nigerian cuisine. The book cuts between the author's life and the block busting sci-fi she's written, where the two sides work well together illustrating two different messed up versions of reality. Well worth a punt.

    Also just finished Project Hail Mary which I loved and will definitely have to get into a bit more Andy Weir.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,248 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Im giving up on the Stormlight Archive and Sanderson in general now, he must be the most overrated author in all of sci-fi/fantasy apart from maybe Andy Weir.

    I actually threw the book away from me in disgust last night, its the third one, there was a bit where Shallan was exhausted so exhaustion-spren were "oozing" from the furniture, then a few pages later she was anxious so anxiety-spren were oozing instead, its just so childish and boring. The repetition was really getting to me aswell, the same conversations, constantly recapping every characters issues every chapter, everyone moping around the place repeating themselves.

    He is just a terrible writer and Ill happily never touch anything by him again. Im really worried about whether Im ever going to read good fantasy or sci-fi ever again tbh, nothing to look forward to and everything I take a punt on is such low quality, theres no awe to be found anywhere anymore, its the same snarky irritating Mary Sues in every book.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Most overrated sci fi/fantasy author is not a field short of candidates, but so much comes down to personal choice. GRR Martin would be high on my list, as would Robin Hobb and Susanna Clarke, though I know quite a few people who really enjoy their work. Nothing worse than that feeling of being slightly duped when you're a few books into a series only to realise you think it is utter rubbish. That said, there are also authors that might be a bit formulaic and far from challenging who I find great fun and have become a guilty pleasure (e.g. some of Scalzi's stuff).

    Just started into 'The city we became' by NK Jemesin, which while very unusual I'm enjoying so far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,856 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    All a matter of opinion of course. I was about to post "N. K. Jemison is a bad writer and I can't believe the hype her books get." I read the City we became and didn't hate it but it was a repetitive one-trick pony and frankly I didn't like how much her hate for the city I grew up in poured from the book.

    Then I said, "well, she got a Mac Arthur grant, supposedly going to be the next best thing" so I read "The 100,000 Kingdoms."

    Utter drivel that's poorly written. I think that's the biggest thing I see in modern writing - poor writing. I began to think of "The 100,000 kingdoms" as "The book of Sighs" because literally (yes, literally) there was someone sighing on every freaking page after awhile. It was a joke! Can't come up with a better action? Farting? Picking their godlike noses? No, sighing. Sigh, sigh, sigh. Oh, and the mishmash of a plot that kind of limps to conclusion was just that.

    Now, do I think all new writers are bad? No. To purge Jemison, I dug out some Adrian Tchaikowsky, simple stuff, clearly written, lots of action not much thinking. Is he 'great?' No, Connie Willis is great. But, she's not new. Cixin Liu is great and new (and maybe, not from a Western country so a better writer?) Guy Gavrial Kay has his moments.

    Haven't read Brandon Sanderson, think I'll give it a pass.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    So much clearly does come down to opinion. While I read 'The three body problem' I wasn't wowed by it, nor tempted to read more. Not sure how much came down to the translation, but having read and enjoyed other Chinese authors, I was non-plussed by Cixin Liu. The Adrian Tchaikowsky stuff I've read I have thoroughly enjoyed and will go back to him at some point. Haven't read any Connie Willis, must give her a go.

    FWIW, I enjoyed 100,000 Kingdoms and its sequels. I seem to have missed all the sighing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,856 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Best Connie Willis book to start with is "The Doomsday Book." Then there are lots to look for, she's a great short story writer and if the collection includes "The Last of the Winnebagos" try that one.

    Re: Suzanna Clarke. I couldn't put down 'Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norell' and the BBC adaptation was incredible. But, 'Piranesi' was seriously meh. Sometimes writers just have 1 great book in them. Choosing another genre, Harper Lee never wrote anything good after "To Kill a Mockingbird" and Capote never published another novel after "In Cold Blood."



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Again very different tastes so, to me 'Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norell' was akin to a weak and rather pretentious costume drama with a bit of magic thrown in the side. I see plenty of rave reviews for it on Amazon and Goodreads, personally I found it tedious and long winded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    Legend. David Gemmell. One of the all time greats!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭Fian


    Agree with that, Druss is a great character. It reminds me I have two books of short stories called "Legends" on shelves upstairs, Vol 1 & 2 are short/standalone stories set in various well known fantasy/sci fi universes written by the authors. So I think e.g. there is a David Gemmel story and probably dunk and egg story from GRR martin. Well worth a read.

    Recently finished "Empire of Silence" book 1 of the sun eater series. Finished it on Monday. Enjoyed it, it doesn't seem to be very well received but I certainly liked it. I had holidays lined up so I actually decided to switch instead of continuing series, to save the remaining ones for on holiday.

    Anyway started "Dungeon Crawler Carl" yesterday. Idea is aliens "mine" earth for rare elements and as part of the regulations they allow surviving population to enter a reality show dungeon, which is broadcast for entertainment. If anyone can survive to level 18 of the dungeon they can reclaim the rights to Earth's mining materials.

    Spent 10 hours in A & E yesterday s well, so have read enough of it to be able to give a reasonable impression and also really liked it. I do play RPG computer games, so that probably helped.

    Unfortunately following that I am in a leg brace with my leg held out straight for 10-12 weeks and unlikely to need to save any books for the upcoming holidays I had planned. 4.5 hours on a ryanair flight to canaries without being able to bend knee (and presumably without being allowed sit in exit row) followed by a sun holiday where I could not manage beach, sea or a pool is not likely to be worthwhile. I will see how I feel on 30 June when I was due to take off.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,829 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    After having it on my Kindle for years I started the first book in the Galactic Milieu trilogy (called something something Jack something, there's some other book called Intervention that can apparently be read first or not as well).

    I'm maybe 20% of the way through it. It reads a bit more like classic sci-fi in terms of style and I'm enjoying it so far. I believe the series is pretty well thought of?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭Fian


    Jack the bodiless maybe? And I really liked that series.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,829 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Yeah Jack the Bodiless it is.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Just finished 'Once was Willem' by M R Carey. Thoroughly engaging fantasy set in medievel England, told from the point of view of the recently undead Willem and centering around the rather miserable village he came from and local castle. Great fun with no shortage of twists and turns in the plot. The language features quite a bit of middle English which takes a chapter or two to get into but adds to the atmosphere once you get into it. Definitely a big fan of Carey's work and this was no exception.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,856 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Started and stopped "Red Rising" by Pierce Brown. Harry Potter meets the Hunger Games. Ugh. Got about 50 pages in and gave up. Don't know how this author turned that into a series of 6, but it definitely didn't work for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    They are garbage. Basically just totally derivative of every YA Sci-Fi book that came out before. I read a few, hoping they'd get better. More fool me.

    Currently reading "The Heroes" by Joe Abercrombie. Enjoyable. Describes battles and the randomness of battles very well.

    Tracing initial character with a ring. Die. Person who killed them. Die. Person who killed THEM. Die etc.

    Thought he portrays the Fog Of War well also: Orders lost/messengers killed or simply late. One of the many valid criticisms of the later seasons of Game of Thrones was that this Fog Of War was lost. Messages seemed to arrive almost instantly. People seemed to be able to almost teleport across the continent.

    Many people put me off initially describing the characters as all bad guys. Just to different degrees. I was expecting misery porn like "A Song of Ice and Fire" series but I don't find them so bad. Just people…. I was expecting to hate them all but I don't. I think the only series of books where I HATED all the characters was Lev Grossman's "The Magicians" series. Not one of them was likeable or had any redeeming characteristics. I hated them all and wished evil, pain, misery and death on each one of those immature narcissists



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Finished listening to Un Lun Dun by China Mieville as my background listening book. Hadn't realised it was YA and while not a bad book for the younger audience, not that great for the rest of us. My mistake to be fair. Starting into The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula Le Guin which I've heard good things about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,248 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Nice grabbed it thanks, hadnt heard of it and loved his other stuff, especially the Pandominion series.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    For lack of material I tried Jack the Bodiless and it's not for me. Tedious intro to some mega elitist family dynasty that never seems to end and after a few attempts I just had to give up. Shame cos after good reviews I was hoping for something new but defy not this.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,829 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Ha! I could see how that might put you off. Uncle Rogi's commentary/opinions on the 'dynasty' as someone inside it but apart from it is very enjoyable as you progress. I'm reading the subsequent book now which I'd say is similar so if first one is not for you it won't change much.



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