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National Broadband Ireland : implementation and progress

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Stewball


    Got connected this week too. Pretty much 4/5weeks from ordering to up and running.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Moyglish


    Looking to sign up the parents to a provider today. They're very rural, but thankfully in an NBI area.

    I thought I'd be able to sign them up today and have them up and running next week but seems unlikely from reading here.

    Any providers to recommend or avoid? Or anyone providing better hardware than others?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,090 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    Digiweb are my personal favourite. I’d avoid Vodafone as they’ve been having problems lately with congestion at night and their support isn’t very good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Moyglish


    Thank you, that's really helpful and good to know!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭lukin


    Phone line is back, Circet are coming Monday to put the line from the DP point back up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,816 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Some minor NBI branded roadworks (some of the openeir plant around is underground) up the road from me now. Getting closer…

    Pre-ordered already for months now, but this is a very special situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,255 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    NBI Announces Leadership Promotions to Support Next Phase of National Broadband Plan Delivery​​ - NBI

    National Broadband Ireland CEO steps down amid reshuffle of leadership team – The Irish Times

    Peter Hendrick, who has served as NBI’s CEO since its inception and was a founding shareholder, will be replaced by TJ Malone, who has led the survey, design and build of NBI’s network since the project commenced.

    Mr Hendrick will remain with NBI as a non-executive director and a shareholder.

    As CEO, Mr Malone will oversee the completion of the roll-out of its broadband network and the long-term operation of the business. ​

    Mr Malone’s role as CEO of NBI deployment will be filled by Jenny Fisher, who has held the role of chief legal and administration officer.

    Sara Lynn has been promoted to the role of chief legal officer, having worked in the business since 2020, most recently as NBI’s head of legal. ​

    Some €978 million of subsidy has been paid to NBI to date under the national broadband plan contract.

    The actual figure is now over a billion euro.

    €1.15bn according to a PQ answer back in early April, probably more now almost three months later.

    Last August they were at €867m

    Post edited by The Cush on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,255 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Revised NBI Wholesale Bitstream & VUA Products Process Manual

    New Detailed Line Test section with some interesting information

    Nokia ONT LEDs

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    Nokia ONT Light Levels

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,255 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Vodafone Broadband Connection Points (BCPs) Contract extended to 2027, with 2 year extension option, by the Dept for Rural and Community Development (DRCD)

    https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2025-05-08/460/

    Contract: Broadband Connection Points (BCPs) provision and services

    Vodafone – 2 contracts for initial installation of BCP equipment and retail supply of wireless broadband to 300 sites nationwide.

    Contract Awarded: 2020

    Estimated Completion Date: 2025

    Contract Value(€ including VAT): €2,452,041

    Spend to Date(€ including VAT): €2,400,244

    Contract: Broadband Connection Points (BCPs) provision and services

    Vodafone – infrastructure, equipment and hardware upgrade for BCP network along with continued supply of wireless broadband to 2027 (with option to extend by 2 further years).

    Contract Awarded: 2025

    Estimated Completion Date: 2027

    Contract Value(€ including VAT): €2,000,000

    Spend to Date(€ including VAT): €539,768

    Wednesday, 23 October 2024

    NBI reports that all 955 SCP sites have been installed, of which 283 are publicly accessible BCP sites now connected with a high-speed broadband service through a service provider contract with Vodafone. The remaining 672 SCPs are part of the SCP Schools Programme.

    To find the nearest public BCP, an Eircode can be searched on NBI’s website (nbi.ie/bcp-map/).

    Post edited by The Cush on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,255 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    We've gone pre-order today. Four and a half weeks since the DP was installed

    screenshot-1751300033345.png

    Next, pick a provider. Who?

    Digiweb, Pure Telecom, other?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭NotShero


    I find Digiweb good myself, you'd also have the option of 2Gb with Digiweb.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭rodge123


    just checked and I’ve also gone ready to pre-order. Can finally be rid of imagine.

    Do any providers have a fair usage limit that they enforce? And assume no issues using a vpn on them also?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭NotShero


    Digiweb has a 3TB fair usage policy, I’m not sure how enforced it is.

    “We do not throttle or cap service, however, if a customer exceeds the stated fair usage allowance for data on more than 2 occasions in any 90 day period, then Digiweb reserve the right to terminate or suspend the customer’s service. Digiweb will proactively contact customers in advance of any suspension or termination of service.”

    Sky has a 2TB fair usage policy, I’m not sure how enforced this is either and is very hidden in the T&Cs.

    “Sky Broadband Ultrafast products have a limit (fair usage cap) on the amount of data you can download in any month (2TB/Terabyte). Your usage must not exceed that monthly cap. Usage caps may be updated from time to time. The first time you go over the usage cap Sky may write to you. The alert will let you know what will happen if you go over the cap again. If you continue to exceed the usage cap we may suspend or terminate your services.”

    These seem to be the only two big ISPs left that have a limit in their fair usage policy, all the other big ISPs have removed them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭KildareP


    I have often gone over 3TB on Digiweb in the past and not a thing said.

    The only services of theirs I've ever heard data caps being actively enforced were their fixed-wireless access and satellite based products.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭NotShero


    That’s good to know because they don’t really hide it and they have each product listed.

    “Superfast Broadband 3TB in any 30 day period

    Ultrafast/Lightning Broadband (FTTH) 3TB in any 30 day period

    SIRO Broadband (FTTH) 3TB in any 30 day period

    NBI Broadband (FTTH) 3TB any 30 day period

    NextGen Broadband 3TB in any 30 day period

    DSL Broadband 3TB in any 30 day period

    Metro Broadband 350GB in any 30 day period”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    You know I'm on Digiweb (happy to do a referral for a neighbour 😉).

    I actually just had a short outage. Called support, was speaking to a tech within 5 minutes. Nothing on their side, but it seemed like an issue with the DP, which they fired off to NBI. Went for a shower and when I came back it was up and running again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,265 ✭✭✭ItHurtsWhenIP


    Oh and watch out for the door-to-door liar-people 😏



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭ArrBee


    So, I just called Pure to ask a few presales questions.
    The guys I spoke to was very unhelpful. seemed to just have a sales script.

    Do I have to get through to technical support to ask technical questions with Pure?
    the main thing I wanted to find out was if my eircode is serviced by the BT or Eir core infrastructure.
    Should the presales guys know that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,188 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Its NBI. So it's NBI infrastructure not eir nor BT. Why do you need to know btw ?

    Also don't confuse EIRs fibre rollout work the NBP rollout.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,090 ✭✭✭Glaceon


    The poster is referring to the ISP's backhaul rather than the last-mile network. Pure don't have their own, they either use Eir or BT depending on the area.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭ArrBee


    Correct.

    Also, I have heard that the latency on BT is not so good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,255 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    NBI handover to the RSP's backhaul at the local PoH (VUA) or at its data centres in Dublin (Bitstream).

    Local exchanges are connected via NBI's high capacity metro ring fibre network to a PoH, these in turn are connected to 2 data centres in Dublin via core fibre.

    Post edited by The Cush on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 34,188 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Ah, just wondering the why it matters. Cush answered above.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭FastFullBack


    My eircode on the EBI checker has now updated with this message:

    Premises is included in our rollout plan

    Your premises is included in the national fibre network rollout. As your premises was added to the rollout after work commenced in your area, your premises will be ready for connection following the completion of additional rollout works in your Deployment Area.

    An anticipated date for connection is displayed below. This may change, signing up for updates ensures you are kept up to date if dates change.*

    Anticipated date for connection:October 2026 - December 2026

    So my eircde was created Nov 2023, moved into house September 2024, Fibre went live in my area Jan 2025 with cable running directly across from my fron gate, but I can't get connected until Oct 2026.

    I wonder what the additional work needed outside of standard installation work. I have ducting ready to go, but will probably need new pole to bring fibre across road, but I would expect that to be part of normal install.

    I'm in no major rush because Starlink is so good, but still…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,255 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    My guess it could be sooner than that.

    How far away is the nearest DP? Are there spare ports available in the DP? New pole required to bring it across the road?

    The rollout crews have moved to a new area so new properties in the live DAs will be slotted in as crews become available I assume.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭ArrBee


    Would you expect Pure to be able to easily see if my Eircode would handover to BT or Eir backhaul?
    What would be the best way to phrase the question to them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,255 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    I don't know the answer to that but guessing a sales rep wouldn't have that level of detail.

    Maybe an email request might land in the spot.

    Also looking at Pure Telecom since we went pre-order earlier this week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 437 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    I'm pretty sure Oct-Dec 26 is just their default date range, an area near mine is in network build & the overall map shows oct-dec 26 but if you click on houses on their coverage checker its showing oct-dec 25



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,493 ✭✭✭FastFullBack


    Nearest DP is 300 meters away. Not sure about spare ports. Can you visibly see that? Yes new pole will be required



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,255 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    During the planning stage they allocate a DP and port to an eircode. I believe DPs have ports in multiples of 4.

    My DP was installed a few weeks ago with 8 ports that will serve 5 available premises nearby, if all decide to connect, so 3 spare for future use. (I was there when they installed it).

    No visual to tell if there's spare ports available as they're internal and assigned by NBI, other than maybe the size of the DP.

    300m is a long run, the roll of drop cable is 500m I believe so shouldn't be a problem.

    The picture in this post is like the one installed for us, Size 0 -

    National Broadband Ireland : implementation and progress - Page 249 — boards.ie - Now Ye're Talkin'



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